Yes, it's about your range as a whole. It's related to the (somewhat flawed) concept of minimum defence frequency (MDF), which is sometimes labeled "1 minus alpha", and is derived from the simple pot odds concept of "If villain bets X% of pot, you need to call at Y frequency to stop him from making money with any two cards". So, for example, if a villain pots the river, you need to call 50% of the time because otherwise you can be exploited, because if you fold "too often", he can make money by bluffing with all his air. Whenever a villain has bluffs in his range, you obviously have to call with some pretty weak hands that beat those bluffs, but if he's not bluffing very often, you can safely fold some of your worst bluffcatchers, and just call with the hands that definitely make money.
Therefore, if you're in a spot where you have lots of decent bluffcatchers in your range, it's perfectly fine to fold the worst ones. The top of your range will beat some of villain's value hands and be very +EV, but the absolute bottom of your calling range will only beat bluffs, and if villain gets his values/bluffs correctly balanced, you can only breakeven at best with your worst bluffcatchers. If you call even lighter, you'll lose money. So in any particular spot, your range will have some hands that make money, some that break even, and some that lose money. Calling with everything that breaks even or better is the way to go, but it can be quite hard to decide precisely where you draw the line in a particular spot. For the hand described above, I think Q9s/J9s will break even (and Ax/Tx will be quite profitable), but anything worse will lose money, partly because if you call with something like 98s, villain might actually be turning K9s into a bluff and actually gets value when you call with worse.

So if you're exploiting his tendency to overfold preflop by 3 betting Q9s, what does that mean for your postflop bluffing range?

My thoughts:


What up Fatboy? Good luck.

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If I knew how to post videos, I woulda prefaced this post with the clip from "Payback" with Mel Gibson where Lucy Lu says "hey, Fatboy! Yeah, I'm talkin to you!" Then she gets smacked and likes it. Lmao.

^^ Arty/Bob

Mega thanx guys, that's spot on what I'm hoping to get out of this PGC...plus some laughs.

I read through your comments, now I'm off to find the paracetamol.

Arty I've just cut and paste that GTO simplified thing you linked to in BQ...so some stuff to get my head round, but tomorrow I'm hoping to get some 10nlz in...played it a bit today until the server restart (stars)...kinda looked really, really fishy...what's up with that?

PS

Videos are welcome

4hr session of 10nlz...which for a low volumer like me is epic. 1400 hands, sometimes 2 tabling.

PS 10nlz is very, very fishy...more so than 5nlz imo. Loads and loads of poor ss recs.

Still very much in training mode...lots of hands stored for posting and analysis, but gotta get to the gym just now.

This was the very last hand of the session

If you think my preflop shove is fishy, what do you make of the deep stack?

lol even the hand converter couldn't process this

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $75.74 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 8, AF: 2.0, Hands: 53
SB: $5.28 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 1
BB: $3.14 - VPIP: 43, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 7
UTG: $18.69 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 50
Hero (MP): $17.47
CO: $12.26 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 14, 3B: 13, AF: 0.0, Hands: 29

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with A A
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, BTN raises to $0.90, 1 fold, BB calls $0.80, Hero raises to $17.47, BTN raises to $75.74, BB calls $2.24 all in

Flop: ($38.13) J 4 5 (3 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($38.13) J (3 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($38.13) T (3 players - 1 is all in)

The stack sizes in that hand are so odd. Nice hold with the aces.

Is Stars still doing that Cardhunt promo? I heard a lot of 2NL degens got sucked into playing above their skill level for that, which might explain why 10NL is fishier than ever.

Loving the feedback from Arty, hoping some more will join...trying to make this a happy place for chewing the fat over my poker headspace and happy to post some spew to prove it...


Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $28.22
SB: $11.70 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 23, 3B: 18, AF: 1.5, Hands: 73
BB: $10.00 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 16
UTG: $10.56 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 8, 3B: 7, AF: 2.0, Hands: 38
MP: $12.98 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: 1.5, Hands: 30
CO: $12.35 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 50, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 2

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 9 T
2 folds, CO raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, SB raises to $1.10, 1 fold, CO calls $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($3.40) 2 9 6 (3 players)
SB bets $3.00, CO folds, Hero raises to $27.12, SB calls $7.60 all in

Turn: ($24.60) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($24.60) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

37 percent equity pre, lines up squarely with pot odds. The question here for me is if we don't defend T9s on the btn versus a wide 3bet range, wtf do we defend?

70 percent equity versus his whole range. How does his bet change it?

22% equity versus his overpairs and better, 80% against his cbet overcards, so the hand rests on his cbet ratio and any clues from his pot size bet.

Then call or overshove? Clearly I'm aware of the argument nothing worse is calling (is that 100% true of AK?) but I don't think that makes the overshove automatically wrong.
I'm pot-committed anyway, and delighted if I can fold out his overpair equity.

I'd love some insights here...the best I can come up with is a meta-game issue. The whole thing is high variance and I stay away
from high variance lines whenever possible.

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Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $18.50 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 31
SB: $11.85 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 18, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 11
BB: $12.77 - VPIP: 100, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.3, Hands: 1
UTG: $0.44 - VPIP: 100, PFR: 100, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 1
MP: $6.05 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 12
Hero (CO): $12.54

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with 9 9
UTG raises to $0.44, MP calls $0.44, Hero calls $0.44, 2 folds, BB calls $0.34

Flop: ($1.81) A K 9 (4 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $1.15, BB calls $1.15, MP calls $1.15

Turn: ($5.26) K (4 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50, MP folds

River: ($10.26) 4 (3 players)
BB bets $4.90, Hero raises to $8.45, BB calls $3.55

Just a line/bet size check (ignore the slight misclick at the end)

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Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $10.62 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 18
SB: $10.00 - VPIP: 100, PFR: 50, 3B: 50, AF: 0.0, Hands: 2
Hero (BB): $11.26
UTG: $12.05 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 15, 3B: 13, AF: 0.0, Hands: 46
MP: $10.49 - VPIP: 43, PFR: 29, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 7
CO: $7.78 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 33, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 3

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with T T
2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB raises to $1.35, Hero calls $1.25, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.30) 7 6 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.09, SB raises to $8.65, Hero calls $6.56

Turn: ($20.60) 5 (2 players)

River: ($20.60) T (2 players)

Pre flop meh...not folding call>>cold 4bet>>call idk. If I 4bet, I'm calling the jam. Call might keep it multiway.

SB check...is he giving free cards on that flop - I call bull, loads of combo I beat here. I snapped it, but I'm aware it might not be that great.

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Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2906634
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $24.35 - VPIP: 7, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 15
SB: $10.03 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 16
Hero (BB): $10.37
UTG: $24.27 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 5
MP: $35.09 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 21
CO: $18.99 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 3.3, Hands: 293

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 9 9
2 folds, CO raises to $0.28, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.80, CO calls $0.52

Flop: ($1.65) 4 5 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.18, CO calls $1.18

Turn: ($4.01) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($4.01) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.60, CO calls $2.60

Line check and bet sizing esp river.

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Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $11.70 - VPIP: 6, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 31
SB: $12.43 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 8, 3B: 8, AF: 5.0, Hands: 64
BB: $36.93 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 4, AF: 0.8, Hands: 68
UTG: $10.00 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 12
MP: $10.89 - VPIP: 67, PFR: 67, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 3
Hero (CO): $26.73

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with A K
1 fold, MP raises to $0.35, Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, MP calls $0.65

Flop: ($2.15) 7 A 8 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.02, MP calls $1.02

Turn: ($4.19) T (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.19) 5 (2 players)
MP bets $3.08, Hero calls $3.08

cbet is half pot because 3bet pot OK????
x/b turn because I don't like it much anymore. Villains range is full of sets, made draws, two pairs.
River ain't great, I was hoping for a paired board. I think x/call, but now I am leaning towards x/fold? My hand is a bluff catcher
and when is villain ever bluffing (except maybe his own bluff catchers if he is that good).

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Against fish

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $10.00 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 27
Hero (SB): $10.27
BB: $12.62 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 2
UTG: $17.20 - VPIP: 38, PFR: 38, 3B: 33, AF: 1.0, Hands: 13
MP: $7.07 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 16, 3B: 7, AF: 1.2, Hands: 106
CO: $10.00 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 29, 3B: 11, AF: 2.0, Hands: 62

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with T T
2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, CO calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.10) Q Q 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($2.50) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.79, Hero calls $1.79

River: ($6.08) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $7.01, Hero folds

Fold turn? Call river? (surely not)

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idk

My time for poker is sooo limited, it is a new thing for me to find time for off the felt work, so my knowledge of the poker world is almost none existent tbh. Pretty much what I read on 2+2 and you canna believe everything on here .

I've decided I'm going to write a training paper for Combonator. I'm going to dedicate an hour a week to it. It's not entirely straightforward to configure and the training video's are too much geek and not enough teech. It's a good bit of kit though imo.

Now for some bank holiday 10nlz...I've earned it.

Solid sesh of 10nlz...confirmed fishfest...is this the second wave?

ended up with session stats of 24/20/8.9 cbet 70 tbet 60. wtf...I'm a TAG

first for the lolz

That's how you slow play the micro stack whale....oops

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $19.80
SB: $0.98 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 8
BB: $10.80 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 17, 3B: 14, AF: 2.3, Hands: 63
UTG: $8.37 - VPIP: 7, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 15
MP: $10.37 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 21
CO: $19.70 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 16, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 77

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 8 A
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.20, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.60) 2 Q A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.60) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.60) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $0.30, Hero raises to $19.55, SB calls $0.43 all in



And that's how you use the whale to exploit....fkn oops

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $22.49 -
SB: $1.40 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 2
BB: $26.09 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 6
UTG: $16.92 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 0.0, Hands: 60
MP: $10.00 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 19, 3B: 5, AF: 2.0, Hands: 69
CO: $10.00 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 0.0, Hands: 136

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with J 2
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60) K 8 5 (3 players)
SB bets $0.10, BB calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.90) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, SB calls $0.20

River: ($1.50) 9 (3 players)
SB bets $0.90, BB folds, Hero calls $0.90

Some sort of mental game issue with sets...

I don't think every one is dreadful, but some are....thoughts anybody.

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $13.98 - VPIP: 34, PFR: 24, 3B: 8, AF: 1.5, Hands: 29
Hero (SB):$10.35
BB: $10.15 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 25, 3B: 8, AF: 2.0, Hands: 59
UTG: $10.37 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 26
MP: $10.16 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 1.0, Hands: 48
CO: $10.00 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 13

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with K K
2 folds, CO raises to $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, CO calls $0.65

Flop: ($1.90) K Q J (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, CO calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.30) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.73, CO calls $2.73

River: ($9.76) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River sucks, I don't think I can bet river here?

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Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $10.00 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 9, 3B: 13, AF: 1.0, Hands: 11
SB: $10.15 - VPIP: 42, PFR: 31, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 36
BB: $11.36 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 20, 3B: 20, AF: 0.0, Hands: 25
Hero (UTG): $28.06
MP: $11.46 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 17
CO: $13.77 - VPIP: 38, PFR: 24, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 50

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with 7 7
Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.00) 5 3 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB folds

Turn: ($2.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

River: ($4.40) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

This is horrible...I should be accepting any 4 as a cooler and getting in...wtf was I on?

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Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $21.96 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 7.0, Hands: 72
SB: $27.33 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 6
BB: $10.19 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 51
UTG: $12.90 - VPIP: 34, PFR: 24, 3B: 8, AF: 1.5, Hands: 29
MP: $11.96 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 8
Hero (CO): $30.46

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with 7 7
UTG raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 7 Q 6 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.75) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

River: ($3.95) K (2 players)
UTG bets $2.40, Hero calls $2.40

This just gets worse everytime I look at it

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Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $10.10 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 22, 3B: 0, AF: 0.6, Hands: 27
SB: $9.40 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 8
BB: $12.09 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 8
Hero (UTG): $32.07
MP: $6.07 - VPIP: 9, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 33
CO: $10.58 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 37

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with 7 7
Hero raises to $0.30, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.90) K 7 J (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.57, SB calls $0.57, BB folds

Turn: ($2.04) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.29, SB calls $1.29

River: ($4.62) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $7.24, Hero folds

passive fish...this is a good fold

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Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $9.08 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 7
SB: $10.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 18, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 39
BB: $7.25 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 33, 3B: 50, AF: 0.0, Hands: 3
UTG: $38.04 - VPIP: 75, PFR: 75, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 4
MP: $16.38 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 12
Hero (CO): $29.96

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with 9 9
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BB raises to $1.70, Hero raises to $29.96, BB calls $5.55 all in

Flop: ($14.55) J J 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($14.55) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($14.55) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

hahahah true story....I didn't watch the run out as I was noting villains hands and then sat out for a waz. Knew I stacked him, didn't know how. I assumed we both missed, so I've just seen the hand for the first time. lolololol....he had AJo

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Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $31.69 - VPIP: 75, PFR: 75, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 4
SB: $10.05 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 50, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 4
Hero (BB): $32.93
UTG: $13.60 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 9
MP: $12.02 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 4, AF: 3.0, Hands: 311
CO: $32.85 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 2

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 4 4
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.35, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) 4 5 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.48, Hero raises to $1.59, BTN calls $1.11

Turn: ($3.93) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($3.93) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.49, BTN calls $2.49

More reverse spew.

Clearly I'm over thinking something and need to do some work here. Three of these hands would likely have been called by worse, so I've left a ton of money on the table here. This may be zoom related as I have no history of this at reg sp. Hurts to post it all, so wade in guys.

I see that villain looks like an aggrotard, but this is not a standard defend vs a 3-bet. He's squeezing OOP for more than a pot-sized raise and you're multiway when you call. T9s isn't going to beat 2 players very often. Most of the time with this hand, you win by semi-bluffing in high SPR pots, not by making a pair in a squeezed pot. How are you going to make two villains fold, when the boards you hit will be good for sets and overpairs? It's just a fold. You can probably only profitably call with a very narrow range in this spot. Something like AQs-ATs, KQs, JJ-99.
If it was heads up, then calling in position is much more viable, as you're more likely to get a +EV spot to steal the pot.

As played, villain makes a very large bet into two players. He's repping a big overpair, so I doubt he's folding if you jam. Jamming is probably close to breakeven due to all the dead money and the chance villain is airballing, but I would just call, as villain will turn his hand face up on the turn (shove JJ+, check-fold AK/AQ) allowing you to play perfectly. Giving yourself a decent chance to bink a 5-outer or taking a prime float/steal spot is better than getting stacks in when you're almost certainly behind.

Most of the other hands look fairly reasonable. I might comment on them later.

This makes a lot of sense, although I'm not a 100% that villain won't barrel of his air...lot of 10nlz villains showing great attachment to AK missed, no matter how it plays out, but yeah I see the logic.

Gonna have to put some more thought into my 3bet defence.

Just looked at some of the sets.

With top set 7s on 753r as the PFR, I check-raise the flop and then go into check-call mode on that turn card (if villain is still around). Your range misses that flop, and you're OOP, so should be checking almost your entire range so that button can stab with his air, the SB can overcall (or raise with a worse set) and then you hit them with the x-raise.

With 77 on Q76tt vs UTG, always raise the c-bet. You're at the top of your range and should be trying to play for stacks. It's also easy to balance with semi-bluffs in that spot, as you have some combo draws.

With 77 on KJ7tt multiway, I'd go bigger on the flop, and then overbet the turn so that flush draws are caught in no man's land (but often make terribad calls, giving you a ton of value). As played, easy fold when the FD gets there and villain donks big.

Came here from a link in Arty's blog.

Very interesting discussions. I'll chip in when time allows and when I have something non-stupid to say (ie rarely) but being a married man like yourself I'll have to choose my spots and in any case probably have little of value to say other than raise points that were valid pre-BF (oh, those days of winning at 100 and 200NL instead of micro stakes now!).

GL.

Jalfrezi,

My all time favourite Indian meal (chicken of course...the healthy option!)

I'll always remember BF. Logged on to PS to be faced with a big **** off FBI badge/statement.

Funny now, less so at the time

All comments appreciated here.

So continuing 10nlz for training only. Three hands with the sort of everyday stuff we online heros have to process in the few seconds available. I'm looking to get into some of these decisions and see what others think.

Hand 1

Villain completely unknown so I treat him as a 10nlz reg in the absence of contradictory information

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $7.95 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 3
SB: $12.24 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 22, 3B: 20, AF: 0.0, Hands: 27
BB: $13.10 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 1
UTG: $10.81 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 16, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 25
MP: $10.00 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 13, 3B: 21, AF: 0.5, Hands: 46
Hero (CO): $10.72 -

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with 9 9
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, SB raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.10) 4 8 Q (2 players)
SB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($4.10) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.10) K (2 players)
SB bets $1.70, Hero calls $1.70

First question fold, call, or 4bet. Follow up question...if you are not calling, what is your IP 100bb 3bet calling range? (since I've been fisted for calling sc ip to 3bets). I assume we have to flat some 3bets IP and not just with AK, QQ

I think calling his cbet is std here, no? I've still got him pretty wide (like 12% and pretty much cbetting his whole range on this flop)

Next question, bet at his missed barrel on the turn? Take it down before a scary A/K comes?

River, standard fishy micro bluff...people do the math and don't do what villain does here. Gives me 3.4:1, I need 22% equity, I got that just on his bluffs.

I fold if he pots/overbets it.

Hand 2

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Hero (BTN): $14.47 -
SB: $26.82 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 8
BB: $10.91 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 12, 3B: 13, AF: 0.0, Hands: 17
UTG: $10.15 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 33, 3B: 0, AF: 0.7, Hands: 9
MP: $4.51 - VPIP: 57, PFR: 29, 3B: 25, AF: 0.0, Hands: 7
CO: $10.77 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 1

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with J Q
UTG raises to $0.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20, SB calls $0.15, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.70) 8 J 5 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.44, SB calls $0.44, UTG calls $0.44

Turn: ($2.02) 9 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.02) Q (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.96, Hero folds, SB folds

I would normally fold pre here, but utg is fishy (I have notes from previous), not stats

I don't bet turn for pot control...this might be a mistake.

Good fold as every draw got there, and my hand is bluff catcher and this villain is never bluffing or betting thin??

Hand three

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Hero (BTN): $15
SB: $5.00 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 2
BB: $13.24 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 15, 3B: 25, AF: 0.3, Hands: 13
UTG: $10.00 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 7
MP: $9.98 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 4
CO: $9.44 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 1

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 4 4
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.55) A 8 Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.98, BB calls $0.98

Turn: ($3.51) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.23, BB folds

Deep enough to set mine IP (the bluff was a rethink on villains misplay, so the PF call started life as a genuine set mine)? Incidentally I think villains 3bet here is too small...do you agree?

No cbet from villain. OK should I stab and risk the x/r. I think it is a fair gamble.

BB calls. BB just faced up his hand. He is slowplaying a monster (almost never) or drawing or trying to get thin to sd. Matters not, from this point I'm blasting away.

Villain folds turn....disappointing, it's a better post if I blast him off the river.

Chicken jalfrezi the business....Lamb Jalfrezi also very good..........flatting with 99 likewise. You're ahead of his range and IP so play it.

I'd CB that flop in his shoes.

Maybe betting OTT is good but I like how you played it (for SD value).

I only looked at the 99 hand. Totally standard pre. Call the 3-bet IP with all Axs, any pair, any two suited Broadways, AJo+/KQo, suited connectors 54s+. Add some suited gappers like J9s-75s - if you even have those in your CO range - if you're particularly good at exploiting a known/ABC player. Fold more often (medium Axs, AJo, KQo, KTs, QTs and SCs if you're not so good post-flop, or villain is particularly value-heavy).
As played, standard call on flop. I like the check back on the turn. You might bet 77/66 if you floated those, but 99 has enough SDV to check it back. Villain's river bet is very small, but the K is very bad for you (AK/KQ/KJs obv got there), so I wouldn't mind a fold. The bet-check-bet line is rarely a bluff*, and villain might be making a pointless "value/bluff" with JJ/TT that actually beats you. (*Checking back the turn often confuses villain into trying to bluff the river too often, however, which is another reason why the turn check back is good).
Call on any card lower than a Q for sure. Maybe shove with A4s/A5s/65s, because those hands that had SDV probably need to be turned into bluffs now, although it should be pointed out that turning weak pairs into bluffs could be very bad, as you rep no big hands on this runout (sets and 76s and would always bet the turn, and KQs often does too). If the call is a mistake, it's only a small one, but 99 and A8s are probably the bottom of your bluff-catching range, so will be close to breakeven.

I thought you were a self-proclaimed nit?

Totally...but maybe a microstakes thing? idk. I know I see very ******ed river bluffing all the time at 10/25nl, my problem was before I started to take cash seriously (Jan this year) I was pretty much folding to them all, so I guess getting my river play sorted out is beginning to show dividends.

Nice, are EV calcs also important to do to self-analyze... im guessing only OTR?

This thread is gold btw like someone said <3 = Arty + Bob

BQ crew checking in

Check the table count in ZOOM, if they hide their search feature then manually scroll through the zoom lobby, filtering it alphabetically shortens the process.

99 - I check how many tables and call vs >3 tables and fold vs the rest. Reason being (IMO) is that regs will bluff at the K a lot more than a 1 tabling rec will. That being said, his sizing is very value heavy and not many people at 10nl are capable of bluffing with that sizing, again IMO.
QJ - I prefer a 3b pre rather than a call. Rest is good.
44 - I play it exactly the same, so I am going to be shamefully bias and say WP!

I am a nit. In 3-bet pots, I only play hands that flop the nuts.

^^ epic spoiler

Hey I've worked out Arty's pseudo GTO strategy. It's frequency based.

Monday's, Wednesday, Friday's he is nit.
Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday he is maniac.
Sunday he plays chess.

I'm off to Unibet HU4Rollz

Off to climb some fine Scottish mountains...everybody crush the weekend