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Old 07-04-2012, 01:05 AM   #16
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Re: Break the cycle - Micro Grinding onwards

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wtf 8: Bad hand choice to 3b a regs UTG range. Since you did tho I'm fine with the cbet. Once you hit the Jh tho you should be looking to just get to SD. And maybe, I said maybe, you can value bet the river if he checks back a second time.

Absolutely agree with this. Was a good board to cbet but once he calls and you pick up some equity the best line is to check behind and try for a cheap showdown.
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #17
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wtf 7,

Yeah possibly bad hand to 3b. Id prefer if its suited. I decided to bluff with this hand as he tends to fold often and im in position. Calling isn't profitable. In zoom you can't sit around and wait for optimal hands to 3 bet bluff with as positions constantly change.

With some marginal showdown value on the turn its probably better to check behind. Need to take more time with my thought processes in such pots. One possible reason why i might had decided to bet is that i didn't want to fold my hand on the river. This probably comes from my expereince with fish where oop they cc flop, check check turn, then Bet river with there entire range on the river.

Question: If your in position, what is your optimal 3bet bluffing hand? Ideally i like Ax Suited hands, able to hit top pairs and nutted flushes.

Can't be to picky in zoom though as i said. If someone is folding to 3bets ~80% and you have a chance to 3bet as a bluff, take it.
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:19 AM   #18
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Yea, that's what I find to be at the top of my light 3b range. Hands like ATs, A9s, KQs, QJs, SCs (sometimes, not always) and stuff like that. I tend to 3b wider when villain has opened from a later position. When a TAG reg opens from EP, I treat that range with respect. I'm probably flatting IP my entire range except KK+.

The reason is because in todays games EP ranges have tightened up considerably. I would hate to have to 3b/fold a hand like AJs or AQs IP. When someone has an 80% fld23b stat then yea, you want to 3b wider against this person obv but villains relative position plays an important part on when you should 3b light. And I would imagine since it's zoom that UTG ranges are even tighter than regular games.
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:40 PM   #19
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Regs ranges in general are tighter utg, zoom in general seems to play tighter. I think my range is around 13% utg, sometimes a bit higher as im trying out hands to widen that range.

To help me identify peoples ranges quickly i've included Raise First In stat from All positions. In the wtf HH 7 the reg in question was ~ 17% which i think we can attack and put pressure on.

I totally aggree with you wit flating a lot of strong hands In position vs regs utg. Vs fish however i would like to isolate them with a wide value range. So hands that i might call vs a reg i might 3 bet for value to get hu.

My 3bet strategy is a bit muddled at the moment. Sometimes i 3 bet only 3% and sometimes im up around 9%. A lot of work needs to be done for me to feel more comfortable.

When i first starting playing zoom i was playing 17/13. I wanted to increase my stats to become more profitable and now i play 20/18. Once i gain some more knowledge and become more confident with my game i can see me widening my 3 bet range.
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:05 PM   #20
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I look at raise first a lot in my pop up. It's probably my go to stat when I want to see villains pfr stat by position. Hmmm, I should probably just put it on my HUD lol.

For wtf7, how many hands do you have on villain? If it's large, like 500+, then yes, I agree that we can start 3b his utg open a bit wider. If it's less than 500 hands, then I would stick to your default strategy until his sample size becomes more reliable.

TBH, I think you might do better if you go back to playing 17/14, 18/16 like you were. You keep yourself out of marginal spots more and you'll have card advantage in your favor most of the time. And don't worry about the regs, they're not going to exploit you if you play this style. When I played 6max I used to play 22/18ish and I was mostly break even, going through crazy swings, and finding myself in awkward ass spots all the time. Much easier to tighten up because there are a million people that play like I used to play spewing stacks all over the place. And you'll be there to catch it.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:23 PM   #21
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Rather than trying to playing a certain style 17/13 or 20/18 I'm trying to focus on making correct decisions on each each hand. When i was nitty i think i was missing out on alot of opportunities to make more money. +ev decisions is one of my goals. As my knowledge and experience grows so should be ability to play hands profitability. So as time goes by i should progress more away from being a nit and more towards being a tag.

Should i avoid being put into tough spots? A lot of people say you should take this approach. Others say you should take a certain play because its the best play. The latter is more in line with one of my goals of making the most +ev play in each situation. The best play isn't necessarily the easiest line. If im put in a tough spot and make a mistake, its an opportunity to anaylyse the spot and learn something. Growth comes from such spots.

On a laptop atm, downlaod pt4 beta and pokerstars. If i can figure out how to conifure pt4 hud ill fire up and 1 table some zoom. With no table ninja, fat fingers and no mouse it makes me uncomfotable of playing more than 1 table.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:45 PM   #22
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:25 PM   #23
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:37 PM   #24
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BR ~205

Back home with a new 2nd hand car brought with my poker winnings. Lets hope this one lasts the next few years. The timing belt, water pump have just been done and its been serviced. Will post a pic if i can get hold of a camera. Also brought a usb Mic and now should be able to do sweats and talk on skype. My old mic was an analog, it was terriabad.

While i was away i played about 1k hands 2nl-10nl. Used pt4 which was ok but i prefer hm2 atm. Most likely because i have all my huds and popups set up.

WEEKLY VOLUME GOALS
  • 30 Hours poker
  • 1 hr per day off the table work
  • Focus im making +ev plays
  • Record a 45min video of me playing
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:11 AM   #25
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WEEKLY VOLUME GOALS
  • 30 Hours poker 20 hours
  • 1 hr per day off the table work failed
  • Focus im making +ev plays
  • Record a 45min video of me playing success
My database stopped working and it took 3 frustrating days to finally get it up and running again. That frustration led to lots and lots of tilt. Not a great work but i need to learn from my mistakes.

HM2 had to reinstall so lost all my hands but that is nothing to worry about.

A fellow poster is challenging himself to win $500 at 10nl in 21 days. I told him id like to do that to. So that is my goal for the next 21 days. 40k hands per week will be my target volume.

21 day challenge
  • $500 dollars profit
  • To be aware of what level my 'game' is on
  • Remember money comes from fish and not from marginal/ spew spots from regs
  • 40k hands per week

Here is my sexy graph of all the hands i have. Something i don't want to repeat to much.


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