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10-22-2013 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nit3.runn3r
As a 29 year old now attempting to finish my degree while working 50 hours a week as a welder, I greatly approve of you chasing your dream. I wish I had done what you are now doing. Now, I have too many responsibilities and such to "just go for it." Subscribed and good luck.
Thanks man! Never too late to live your dream. Good luck with your degree




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Will be following this thread. GLGL

What's the tracking program you are using? I like the look vs. pokerjournal which I've used forever...
Hope it will be a good one! Its poker income, it sucks and crashes a lot buy gets the job done. I have android so no poker journal for me.
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10-22-2013 , 09:18 PM
How are you cleaning up on car days?
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10-23-2013 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BradleyT
How are you cleaning up on car days?
Usually it's a one or two night stint so I don't shower or shave until I'm back in a hotel room. Not really a big deal because playing poker does not cause perspiration. The only things that I really dislike about it is that I can't run or workout on those days, and do not have a quiet place to read (damn casinos and their noise everywhere)

Sitting in the MGM reading and drinking tea now, playing a short session tonight and a longer one tomorrow.
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10-23-2013 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ECGrinder
Usually it's a one or two night stint so I don't shower or shave until I'm back in a hotel room. Not really a big deal because playing poker does not cause perspiration. The only things that I really dislike about it is that I can't run or workout on those days, and do not have a quiet place to read (damn casinos and their noise everywhere)

Sitting in the MGM reading and drinking tea now, playing a short session tonight and a longer one tomorrow.

Did a quick google search, there is a library a few miles away from Foxwoods

Preston Public Library
389 Connecticut 2, Preston, CT ‎

and there is a Donkin Donuts

Dunkin' Donuts
492 Connecticut 2, Preston, CT ‎

There is also a cafe close by called Panera Bread

Panera Bread
39 Norwich-Westerly Rd Ledyard, CT 06339‎

check those places out in your down time
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10-23-2013 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ECGrinder
Usually it's a one or two night stint so I don't shower or shave until I'm back in a hotel room. Not really a big deal because playing poker does not cause perspiration. The only things that I really dislike about it is that I can't run or workout on those days, and do not have a quiet place to read (damn casinos and their noise everywhere)

Sitting in the MGM reading and drinking tea now, playing a short session tonight and a longer one tomorrow.
join a cheap gym that has showers. i'm really against planet fitness because i'm a lifter rather than a hampster, but for something like $10/month you would have access to a shower whenever you needed one.

not the greatest solution because it it costs money and i'm sure the main goal is to spend as little as possible, but it's a cheap life hack
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10-24-2013 , 12:46 AM
OP good luck man.
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10-24-2013 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ECGrinder
Most tilting hand yet. $840 deep, btn covers, utg has $300. I open AQ in mp to $20, btn and utg limper call. Flop ($60) J98r. I cbet 40, call call. Turn ($180) 10, completing the rainbow. I bet $80, btn raise to 240, utg ships 251, I tank forever and fold. Btn tables KQ for the nuts, the river is a king. FML
Is this a good c-bet given texture 3-way?
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10-24-2013 , 09:59 AM
I don't mind the Chet but think it should smaller..

Also OP no one wants to sit next to a smelly player. Find a shower or find a cheap motel to stay in.. Check our airbrb or similar site..
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10-24-2013 , 10:51 AM
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OP good luck man.
thanks!

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Originally Posted by Willyoman
Is this a good c-bet given texture 3-way?
Yea, I flop two overs and a gutter which is reasonably strong on a rainbow board. I'm looking for it to fold through some of the time or at least fold out the btn so that I have relative position on UTG limper. After that I can continue on Tens and Aces, Queens put me in a difficult spot but will often give me the best hand, which is a situation easily handled in position and against weaker players.

On the turn, i happened to have some "sould read" on the btn to figure out he had KQ, and it was fairly obvious I was chopping with the utg limper's Q. I think the fold was a bit to tight because if the btn has a lone Q or a set then I make a huge mistake by folding and I think he has those hands some of the time. I should probably peel for $160 and c/f to any sizable bet on every non king river, as annoying as that line is.

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I don't mind the Chet but think it should smaller..

Also OP no one wants to sit next to a smelly player. Find a shower or find a cheap motel to stay in.. Check our airbrb or similar site..
haha chill man I don't smell. I'm in good physical condition and don't sweat all over the place from playing poker....
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10-24-2013 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ECGrinder
thanks!



Yea, I flop two overs and a gutter which is reasonably strong on a rainbow board. I'm looking for it to fold through some of the time or at least fold out the btn so that I have relative position on UTG limper. After that I can continue on Tens and Aces, Queens put me in a difficult spot but will often give me the best hand, which is a situation easily handled in position and against weaker players.

On the turn, i happened to have some "sould read" on the btn to figure out he had KQ, and it was fairly obvious I was chopping with the utg limper's Q. I think the fold was a bit to tight because if the btn has a lone Q or a set then I make a huge mistake by folding and I think he has those hands some of the time. I should probably peel for $160 and c/f to any sizable bet on every non king river, as annoying as that line is.



haha chill man I don't smell. I'm in good physical condition and don't sweat all over the place from playing poker....
OP, no offense, but your c-bet is bad here. Just think about your opponent's preflop calling ranges and ask yourself whether or not a J98r flop smacks their ranges or not.

Also, ask yourself about the REAL value of your "two overs and a gutshot." If you are honest with yourself, you will realize that your gutshot puts 2 1-liners on the board, and your Q overcard would put a 1-liner on the board. Therefore, those outs aren't really worth that much in terms of making future value from worse hands.
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10-24-2013 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ATsai
OP, no offense, but your c-bet is bad here. Just think about your opponent's preflop calling ranges and ask yourself whether or not a J98r flop smacks their ranges or not.

Also, ask yourself about the REAL value of your "two overs and a gutshot." If you are honest with yourself, you will realize that your gutshot puts 2 1-liners on the board, and your Q overcard would put a 1-liner on the board. Therefore, those outs aren't really worth that much in terms of making future value from worse hands.
I think there is enough fold equity and hand equity there to make a profitable cbet. Yes, the board texture is such that opponents will flop something more often than an 932 or A73 type board. however it's only 3way to the flop, and you must remember it is hard to have anything good in holdem! combined with our ability to make the best hand, I think it is +ev. The spot is pretty marginal and you would be fine just check/giving up if thats what you want to do.
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10-24-2013 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ECGrinder
I think there is enough fold equity and hand equity there to make a profitable cbet. Yes, the board texture is such that opponents will flop something more often than an 932 or A73 type board. however it's only 3way to the flop, and you must remember it is hard to have anything good in holdem! combined with our ability to make the best hand, I think it is +ev. The spot is pretty marginal and you would be fine just check/giving up if thats what you want to do.
Just no

Atsai is spot on. How about you also consider position. If you are IP, you MIGHT begin to fall into the small +EV category, but given how DIRTY you outs are, your RIO odds when you make a part of your hand, and being OOP, it's actually a clear -EV cbet.

About the only time you win this is when villains both have hands like 22-77 and AK, or a weak 8x.
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10-24-2013 , 12:14 PM
Gotta agree with the others here. J98 is near top of the list for boards I don't c-bet (with air) 100% when we're multi-way. When you break down limp calling ranges or ranges that cold call your raise and don't 3-bet it's full of combos that hit that flop.

Give me K72 - all day err day.
2 - how would they even connect with this besides 22 or maybe A2. And even when they do have A2 it's very hard to call multiple streets with bottom pair.
7 - again very hard to connect with. 77 and possibly 67s,87s,97s. Is mid pair no kicker something they want to take to showdown? They hate to see turn and river cards 9 or higher.
K - this is the card they think you connected with. Your AK is good sir. You'll even see them connect with this board with a hand like KT and give up on the turn because they didn't hit 2 pair.

So basically K72 we've taken 2 cards out of play leaving 1 card for them to connect with. It's funny, this board actually only really gives YOU 1 card to connect with also but is definitely at the top of the list for fold equity.

Now do the same type of analysis with your J98 flop.

I'd run some odds oracle numbers for you but I gotta get to my noon PLO/PLO8 game.
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10-24-2013 , 01:20 PM
Just read this thread at work. Good luck on the grind op. You from Lowell or one of the surrounding cities?
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10-24-2013 , 01:53 PM
I think that joining a gym close by the casino to be able to work out (cardio and/or weights) and shower/shave is a great thing. Seriously consider it especially if you can get it cheap for about $10-20 month. With the physical exercise and shower/shave, you will probably feel better and it may help you concentrate better at the tables.

GL

Last edited by SouthofFifth; 10-24-2013 at 01:59 PM.
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10-24-2013 , 05:45 PM
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Just read this thread at work. Good luck on the grind op. You from Lowell or one of the surrounding cities?
Thanks man. I used to read tons and tons of blogs at work before I quit. Hope this one turns out entertaining! I'm from a small town outside of lowell, spent most of my younger years in New Hampshire, Lowell area, occasionally Boston.

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I think that joining a gym close by the casino to be able to work out (cardio and/or weights) and shower/shave is a great thing. Seriously consider it especially if you can get it cheap for about $10-20 month. With the physical exercise and shower/shave, you will probably feel better and it may help you concentrate better at the tables.

GL
TY. I'll consider it but I'll be moving on soon.
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10-24-2013 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ECGrinder
Thanks man. I used to read tons and tons of blogs at work before I quit. Hope this one turns out entertaining! I'm from a small town outside of lowell, spent most of my younger years in New Hampshire, Lowell area, occasionally Boston.
Word I'm in Methuen
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10-24-2013 , 08:12 PM
The idea about joining a health club to take advantage of the showers is very good. But how are you going to stay in the car during the cold winter months?
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10-24-2013 , 08:20 PM
Good sleeping bag or live in a non-cold location. I prefer the second option as im allergic to snow/cold
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10-24-2013 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Willyoman
Is this a good c-bet given texture 3-way?
This was a rhetorical question. Others have already discussed it plenty - whether you agree or not, it'll be good to think through some of the feedback.

Good thread, and good luck OP!
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10-24-2013 , 09:49 PM
Great thread. Couple things. Search "living in cars" in Amazon. Also have you thought about going overseas were you can grind live and online?
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10-24-2013 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BradleyT
Gotta agree with the others here. J98 is near top of the list for boards I don't c-bet (with air) 100% when we're multi-way. When you break down limp calling ranges or ranges that cold call your raise and don't 3-bet it's full of combos that hit that flop.

Give me K72 - all day err day.
2 - how would they even connect with this besides 22 or maybe A2. And even when they do have A2 it's very hard to call multiple streets with bottom pair.
7 - again very hard to connect with. 77 and possibly 67s,87s,97s. Is mid pair no kicker something they want to take to showdown? They hate to see turn and river cards 9 or higher.
K - this is the card they think you connected with. Your AK is good sir. You'll even see them connect with this board with a hand like KT and give up on the turn because they didn't hit 2 pair.

So basically K72 we've taken 2 cards out of play leaving 1 card for them to connect with. It's funny, this board actually only really gives YOU 1 card to connect with also but is definitely at the top of the list for fold equity.

Now do the same type of analysis with your J98 flop.

I'd run some odds oracle numbers for you but I gotta get to my noon PLO/PLO8 game.
Great post re: flop texture for c-betting.
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10-25-2013 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthofFifth
I think that joining a gym close by the casino to be able to work out (cardio and/or weights) and shower/shave is a great thing. Seriously consider it especially if you can get it cheap for about $10-20 month. With the physical exercise and shower/shave, you will probably feel better and it may help you concentrate better at the tables.

GL
I agree... op I guarantee you a cheap membership like this will allow it to pay for itself and then some just because it allows you to play your A game most often
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10-25-2013 , 01:09 PM
Thanks for all the good luck people! Finally broke out of a long week of break even-slightly winning play yesterday with a $790 winning day yesterday. BR $9,300. Have credit card and other bills coming up that are going to take a chunk out of it. Expenses are holding me down. Stayed at bellissimo and wanted to sleep indefinitely on their tempurpedic beds, but have to grind and make some money today. Reading for a bit and hitting the felt to put in the long Friday-Saturday grind.
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10-25-2013 , 04:10 PM
Might see you there tonight... I'm going to see if I can figure out who ou are lol
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