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02-26-2013 , 07:45 AM
Hella entertaining for sure dude. sub'd
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02-26-2013 , 07:48 AM
I played again on Saturday and then tonight.

I have good news to report from both sessions.

I'll also be sharing a "degen" story of mine that took place in 2003 tomorrow.

Thanks to all for reading the thread and I hope I can accomplish my goals so this thread can continue for as long as possible.

I do feel I am playing solid poker, it just makes me sick to my stomach that I gaffed when I was in a 350bb+ pot.

FML
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02-26-2013 , 12:21 PM
Degen Story #1

Just happened this morning.

This story is about one of you on 2+2 forums.

You were viewing this thread, saw my credit card number, and tried to run a transaction for over $2500.00 USD.

Unfortunately for you, I have fraud protection on my American Express, and any charge over $1,000.00 they contact me to verify it before they let it go through.

Whoever tried it was a degen from Great Britian and I forgive him/her, for you're a degen and know not what you do.

Better luck next time and thanks for checking out my thread.

Degen Story # 2

I have many degen stories that have to do with drugs, gambling, and breaking the law in my youth to tell..

And today, I choose to tell this one to you.

I hope you enjoy.

Isabella County Jail 2003

Beat:

I am serving a 104 day jail sentence for possession with intent to deliver a methamphetamine commonly known as "ecstasy."

I could have got out of it all by ratting on these fraternity kids that I just dropped 10 ounces of cocaine off to, but I wanted to come out of the situation known as just a criminal, not a rat, so I bit the bullet and refused to give testimony against anyone the police wanted to take down.

All they had on me was a rat's testimony that the $11,000.00 found in my hotel room was from drug sales and the rat's testimony that the 100 pills of ecstasy found in a car we were pulled over in were mine. (Even though they had the rat's fingerprints on them.)

I had been known to place heavy action at The Soaring Eagle casino, so it's definitely feasible that the $$$ in my hotel room could have came from gambling.

Problem was, I had no job at the time.

The first attorney my family hired cost 5k. I fired him during the first interview when he tried to convince me to work with police and talked down to me when I said I had two best friends that would lie and say anything that needed to be said to contradict the rat's testimony.

My second attorney was a bull dog. When I started to talk search/seizure laws with him I instantly recognized he was on the same level as me as far as knowledge about drug laws go and he said any testimony that would disqualify the rat's whether true or false was golden and he would love to meet my friends.

Brag:

(The first time I was ever charged with a heavy drug crime I represented myself and it was thrown out of court in Wayne County. The prosecution tried so hard to prove "constructive possession" of ecstasy, but i had access to Nexis Lexis law library and put in hours and hours of my own time researching case law and was able to get most the charges thrown out in the pre-trial and the only thing they could get to stick was a loitering charge. Should have seen the faces of the detectives and prosecution attorney. Looked like they wanted to cry because "blockhead" was going to go free. They called me "blockhead" repeatedly because I promised them they didn't have enough to take me to trial. They held me the 72 hours and tried so hard to get me to cave in, but like any true degen I was holding strong until the end. Then I put in the work to win in court on my own. This was bad though, made me even more over confident.)

Back to the beat:

So, this time I know I am ****ed, and I am going to have to negotiate a settlement.

Me and my attorney put our heads together and come up with a vast assortment of motions to dismiss the case due to police **** ups of procedure, etc, etc, etc....

It looks like I may be able to settle this and do no jail time, but the DEA gets involved because there's lots of drug crime in that area as their is an Indian reservation and crack dealers flock to the city on weekends when they know these Indians get their checks and just clean house on drug sales.

The DEA has info on the rat selling more drugs in the past and they never pressed charges on him and they're pissed that I just dropped off 10 ounces of cocaine as per the rat's testimony and won't give up the info on these kids.

So, like right before it's going to go to trial, I finally get a reasonable settlement offer.

104 days in jail, $4,000.00 jail fees, $20,000 fine, etc, etc, etc...

I end up taking it.

The Degen Jail Story:

So, being the degen I am I need some gambling in my life while in Isabella County Jail. I have hundreds of dollars in my commissary account and I buy like 30 decks of cards and start tearing each card up into 4 pieces.

Each piece represents a GAMBLING CHIP.

I open an in jail poker game/casino for all 12 guys in my pod.

Here's how you buy in.

Breakfast meal- 300 chips
Lunch Meal- 400 chips
Dinner Meal- 500 chips
Honeybun- 25 chips
Swiss Roll- 25 chips
Any candy bar- 100 chips
Porn Mag- 1000 chips
Kool Aid Tub- 500 chips
Maxim Mag- 500 chips

You get the picture. Any item within the jail has a chip value attached to it and that buys you in the game.

When you buy in, the item you give up for chips remains yours unless you lose all your chips. It then becomes mine and anyone can buy it with their winnings.

My rake is just one chip per pot on poker or any gambling that's done with the chips.

Bets on sports, games of chess, monopoly, etc, etc, etc...

I basically ran an 18 hour a day casino that would take action on anything.

Anyway, there was this crackhead guy Scott that always used to complain about the rake. The guy was so pissed I ran the game and always had so much commissary. He always used to say, "I'm going to take everything you got mother****er, when I get my commissary built up you better man up, show some balls and put it on the line mother****er."

This guy would always go busto though, I'd always be throwing him a free honeybun or two. I also was helping out everyone in the pod with their G.E.D.'s etc etc etc... so everyone had my back in case someone bigger than me nutted up on me.

I think he may have had some inner hatred for me because he'd always be broke/owe all his meals in gambling debts and I'd make him eat a whole bag of ruffles barbecue chips within 5 minutes and only get to have two drinks of water during the time frame.

Just humiliating things that would give the pod a good laugh and he was a good sport/would always try it.

One time I made him take the worst breakfast meal, which was two hard boiled eggs and a piece of toast, and flush it down the toilet in front of a guard and say "this is what I think of this breakfast you pig mother****ers need to change it." Then he tossed the plastic plate like a frisbess off the wall.

He got sent to the hole for a day for that, so I forgave him on a lot of debts.

Then one night it finally happens, I am on xanax and I go to sleep and I have this one black guy Craig run the games for me.

This crackhead goes on the sickest heater of his life.

I am waked up from a xanax induced sleep with "common home skillet, it's time to show some balls and put it all on the line. lookee what I got home skillet."

Dude has a page long list of every guys name in the pod with various meals owed to him for a week.

The crackhead has a mountain of all this commissary out on the table.

The black guy Craig is like "he can't lose tonight man."

I'm like "is this a joke, common."

Scott keeps yelling "TIME TO MAN UP, HOME SKILLET."

I had no clue why this crackhead wanted to try to break me so bad. It's like I was the polar opposite of his life and he just wanted me to be broke.

It was a Saturday night. I remember him saying "I want everything that's under your bunk and in your commissary tub. Then I want all your meals this week. I want you to experience what it's like to go without until next Saturday."

Saturday was the next commissary day and Scott knew I had $$$ in my account to replenish any losses. But he wanted me to suffer for a week.

I'm like "How are we even going to gamble for all our stuff man?"

He's like "already trying to chicken out home skillet?" BUCK BUCK BUCK...

I'm like no "just tell me what we're going to bet on."

He says "Lets do a best of 3 games, first game is a best of 3 paper rock scissors, then the winner of that gets to pick the second game."

He throws out a total game of chance.... lol... figures.

I agree to it.

1,2,3....

I go with the paper, he goes with the rock.

I chime in "I knew you'd go with the rock knowing how much you like crack HOME SKILLET."

OH, he's ****ing pissed, he's turning read....

1,2,3

I go with paper again, Scott goes with scissors, FUKKKKKKKKKK

Scott yells "you're not eating for a ****ing week"

Third and final paper rock scissors....

I go with paper again, Scott goes with paper...

"THIS IS IT MOTHER****ER, I GOT YOU THIS TIME" he yells...

The whole pod is up watching this degen amped up on the heater of his life...

I go SCISSORS for the first time, he goes rock...

Scott's fat hillbilly ass jumps on the table and starts dancing he says "HOW YOU LIKE THAT CRACK ROCK MOTHER****ER. TO THE WINDOW TO THE WALL. UNTIL SWEAT DROPS DOWN THESE BALLS. ALL THESE JUSTINS CRAWL."

In my head "I'm luck, ****, what's this guy gonna pick now."

Luckily, he picks chess.

This is a game I am good at, but he doesn't know, because when I am up we are usually playing dealer's choice poker all day and no one in my pod really likes chess so he had no idea I could play this game somewhat well.

I win a coin flip and get to be white.

I go with a "stonewall" opening which is a very safe/defensive opening and I just play mistake free chess and grind out a win."

Scott is taunting me "WHAT'S IT GONNA BE HOME SKILLET? LET ME GUESS TEXAS HOLD EM CUZ GRANDMA SEND YOU ALL THOSE BOOKS TO READ ON POKER. EWWWEEE. IM SCARED."

I'm like "Scott, we can call it a tie man, you got a lot of stuff to lose."

Scott says "I'm not losing ****. You're not eating for a week. I want all your meals this week. I want it all on the line. We'll play your heads up poker game."

So, that's it, we agree upon Texas Hold Em heads up, blinds are set at 5/10 and we each get 1000 chips.

Blinds increase double every half hour.

This crackhead has no rhyme or reason to his game.

He's just open shoving "all in" over and over...

I'm just waiting for the right time to crack him. It's about 20 minutes in and I pick up Q/Q. I just call the 10 chips blind and sure enough "ALL IN."

Scott turns A/2 off

Scott yells "AN ACE ONE TIME, IT'S MY NIGHT.

Flop A/2/5

Scott runs over and starts grabbing my tub from underneath my bed.

Craig is waiting to deal the last two cards because everyone in the pod is like "OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"

Turn 3, River 4

CHOPPPPPPPP

At this point I am like "****, wow, almost got owned."

Scott goes ape****, runs back to the table, and he's sweating.

It's the same monkey strategy, finally I pick up JJ, I calls his monkey all in and he's got 8/3 of spades and bricks out.

I say "Good game Home skillet. I'll think of something you can do tomorrow to win your meals back."

He says "oh, I've got my meals."

I don't want to rub things in too bad and I go to bed.

Now this is where it gets real degen for Scott

Now, It's Sunday afternoon.

There's going to be Nascar, Nhl, and basketball on the television.

All the black guys always hog the TV and Scott never gets to watch Nascar. I rarely get to watch hockey and today I am actually upset because the Red Wings are going to be on NBC. But, the black guys want to watch Lakers Vs Spurs.

Scott is on tilt because he's not going to get to watch the Nascar race.

He pleads with the black guys to let him watch it until the 4th quarter of their basketball game.

They say "no."

Scott comes over and says to me "Want to see how I am going to make sure I get my meals this week HOME SKILLET?"

I'm like "Sure, how?"

Scott says "I'm going to the hole home skillet. They'll be bringing me my meals and you'll never get your greedy little hands on them WATCH THIS. I'M GOING TO SMASH THAT ****ING TV."

This fat hick proceeds to walk up to the TV in front of 6 big black guys and turn it to NASCAR. They're like "Scott, what the **** you doing HOME SKILLET, turn that **** back." Scott sits down on calm, cool, and collected next to them and is just watching Nascar." A black guy gets up and turns it back to the basketball game.

Scott calmly sits for another minute and walks back up to the TV, he says "I'm watching Nascar today. You turn it to that ****ing monkey basketball game one more time I'll smash the TV." He turns it to Nascar. A big black guy says "what the **** you say HOME SKILLET. I'll beat your ****ing ass. Get the **** out of my way, we're watching basketball."

Scott gets out of his way and no fight breaks out. The game gets turned back to basketball. As soon as the black guy calms and sits back down Scott runs up to the Tv, he unplugs it from the wall. He grabs this 21-25 inch piece of **** Tv and hold it over his head.

He screams "I told you mother****ers, we're watching Nascar, you don't like it, **** you, what you gonna do now."

The pod is like "Scott, no, please, they'll take away the Tv for good."

He says "I don't give a FUKKKKKK, I got no reason to be in here, I am going to the hole MOTHER****ERS, how you like YOUR NBA NOW HOME SKILLETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Smashes the television into the floor.

The pod is in shock, Scott runs over to me and says...

"Told you buddy, I'll be getting my meals this week. Have fun with no TV HOME SKILLLLET."

The Brags: Not a rat. Represented myself at the age of 21 and had three drug felonies thrown out of court against me. I had a gambling/drug dealing bankroll I worked up to $50,000. While in Isabella County Jail I ran an in pod casino and lived like a King.

The Beats: Was convicted of a felony drug crime. $11,000 of mine was seized. Had to do 104 days in jail. Pay $20,000.00 in fines, $10,000.00 attorney fees. $4,000.00 jail stay fees. 30 days of jail I didn't even have television.
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02-26-2013 , 01:40 PM
Enjoying your thread! Great story too, can't wait to hear more from you! Good luck at making it to the WSOP!
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02-26-2013 , 04:07 PM
So, it's Saturday...

I wake up disgusted with myself and the thought of loosing that 350bb+ pot to the maniac is really grinding on me. I'm not so much upset about the six out beat I took at the 2/5 table as I got my money in good.

I promised this guy named George who just moved to Detroit that I am going to take him out and show him a few low key electronic music clubs.

Ones where people are cool, like to chill back, and party the right way.

Not the ones filled with sweaty fist pumping apes.

I've got to meet him at 9pm.

It's 1pm so I decide to go get the workout/cardio session in and then I am going to play some poker at MGM casino until 8pm.

I get there at 4pm and I am set on making the $400 I lost back last night and getting the hell out of there to enjoy my night. I fear getting stuck because I might just flip out, text George that I got a migraine headache, and gamble like a degen until I am even.

You all have been in the same scenario before.

So, I buy in for $200 and after a hour or so I am sitting at $300.00.

I am UTG with 7/7 and I limp it.

8 people go to the flop.

Jh/7h/2s

Nice. Lets get this party started.

I lead out $20.00.

An old lady call.
Asian on the button calls.

(You know the Asian always has the flush draw.)

Turn card is a 8c.

There's around $60 in the pot.

I lead $45.

The lady folds. The Asian calls with his flush draw.

$150 in the pot.

River is the Ace of hearts.

I check. The Asian spazzes and makes it $150.00.

I quickly fold my set.

He kindly says "I caught two pair on river, good fold, and shows A/J."

STANDARD.

So, now I am down to $230.

A couple orbits go by, now I am on the button with K/Qo

5 limps to me, I make it $17 to go.

The same guy calls.

It's heads up. The flop is Q/4/6 rainbow.

Checked to me and I lead $30.

Asian calls.

Turn brings a 9, rainbow complete.

There's about $90 in the pot, I bet $75.

Asian quickly calls.

River pairs the 4.

Asian checks again, and I check behind.

He flips over a limped in A/Q.

STANDARD.

So, now I am down to around $100. I decide to go reload my stack to $300 because you can buy in that deep at MGM.

I am now in this game for $400, but have $300 setting in front of me for this tasty little treat.

It's a straddled pot. I'm in the HJ with KK.

A couple limps. I make it $25 to go.

Folds around to straddler who ships all in for $175.

Folds back to me. I call with KK.

Straddler shows A/K, ace proceeds to come on the flop. No help on the turn or river for me.

STANDARD.

I go reload my stack to $300 again.

Now I am in the game for around $600 and I've got about 2 hours before I have to get out of there to get ready to meet George.

If I lose on more mother****ing pot I'm about to call off the night out, go pound a breeze ****ing burger, onion rings, and a cherry coke... then come back and play until I am even because I'm slowly moving into degen mode.

Please god of the poker world, gamblor, jesus, anyone...make this STOP.

Finally, I catch a break, set over a set so I double my stack to $600, I am even for the day....

It's about 45 minutes until I have to go, I am deep again, approaching 10% of bankroll on table, and any big loss could result in bat**** crazy full monkey tilt mode running through my veins.

I'm OTB again with 10d/Jd, the Asian raises to $17, call, call, I call, bb calls.

Around $85 in the pot and I know the Asian has a made hand because he doesn't raise a lot. He open limps A/Q, I know he's on JJ+ or A/K.

I am predicting a spazz on the flop for sure.

Flop 7d/9d/5s

The Asian confidently slides out a $100 stack, he's got around $250 left behind.

One player folds, a $****ty reg player with only $150 left announces "all in."

It's my turn, never finding the fold here, I ship "all in" for the $600 in front of me.

The big blind folds. Asian calls.

He flips two black aces quickly. The $****ty reg with $150 has disgust on his face and shows queens. (One of them is a diamond/****.)

So, we have a $900 pot.....

Turn brings a brick.... omg, please, god of poker/gamblor/whatever the **** you want me to call you, don't let another brick fall on the river.

River is AN ACE of diamonds completing my beautiful flush.

SHIIIIIIIIIIIP IT.

That pot puts me up around $575.

Out of respect for the game I play another 30 minutes then pick up and leave up around $550.

That gets my bankroll to $7,195.00

Last nights uneventful/boring 4 hour grind nets your hero another $161.00.

So, as of today, 2/26/2013...

Bankroll is currently at $7,356.00.

Weight is currently at 216lb.


Time to "KRANK" it up here and back to the poker room in a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MqKTDSZtTQ
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02-26-2013 , 04:26 PM
It's as if Hunter S. Thompson were alive and with us today (and posting on 2p2).. keep it up!
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02-26-2013 , 05:35 PM
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BRAG:




big up for theboobs hehe
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02-26-2013 , 05:59 PM
Subbed! This looks like a fun one to follow. GL OP! Make that monies.
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02-26-2013 , 06:20 PM
Great reads. BTW, just a suggestion, but you may want to remove the photo with your CC number exposed like that. You blacked out the name, but there is too much info there. Just a suggestion.
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02-26-2013 , 06:48 PM
I had to cancel that credit card this morning because a 2+2er tried to use it to deposit money to a poker site in Great Britian.....

Lol.

****ing degen.

Wish he'd man up, apologize and write his degen story in here.
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02-26-2013 , 06:49 PM
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Great reads. BTW, just a suggestion, but you may want to remove the photo with your CC number exposed like that. You blacked out the name, but there is too much info there. Just a suggestion.
And I'm a moron. Skipped over the part that someone actually tried it. My bad.
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02-26-2013 , 08:45 PM
Wow, just a freakin' awesome thread. The trip Aces / Roulette / All in story was freaking crazy. As was the jail degen story.

Looking forward to more stories and updates. GL man, seems like you definitely have it in you to reach 10k BR.
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02-26-2013 , 10:58 PM
The jail story reminds me of a more realistic Shawshank Redemption. You should have stayed in touch with the crackhead. Maybe given him a treasure map or something to find some hidden goodies.
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02-28-2013 , 06:43 PM
Came over from your post in the degen thread and read the whole thread. Good stuff and wishing you some run good OP!
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02-28-2013 , 10:38 PM
Just wanted to give a quick update....

Played a 6 hour session the other night.

It was the standard "I feel lucky to have only lost $350.00" because I had to fold 3 overpairs correctly and every single time I got A/K or A/Q it was in the big blind or small blind and I'd raise to $17-$21 and proceed to brick EVERY flop.

There was this cute girl at the table with huge tits hanging out named Kelcie though so I was able to just focus on those any time I wanted to go on tilt.

Bankroll is currently at $7,001.00.
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02-28-2013 , 10:41 PM
Well, since you all enjoyed my degen story that stems from my 2003 jail stint in Isabella County, I feel compelled to pick up right where I left off and tell you what I got myself into in the year of 2004....

Trenton Harbour Condominium 2004

I was able to get a condo at the age of 21 with my Grandfather's co-signing and him matching my 10k down payment that I told him I saved up from working at a cyber cafe in Detroit.

I didn't lie to my Grandfather much, but this was one time I had to as I really wanted to have my own place. I was living with my Grandmother Marge, but once I started to sell drugs there was no way I ever wanted to take the chance of her door being kicked in and feel that kind of shame.

So, after I got out of jail I had to do 90 days on a tether. That's right, couldn't leave my condo unless it was for work. I had to take a job making $8.25 as a barback in a downtown Detroit restaurant and put up with bartenders, servers, and restaurant management talking down to me like I was a peon. I'd watch these servers ****/suck the management and in my head think "****, that guy's like 35-40 and only makes 50k a year, what a loser."

Tough times for me though with a tether on my foot, a promise to my grandmother to never sell drugs again, and being surrounded by people in the food service industry who liked to party. Pretty much everyone in the entire place was on cocaine and the cocaine being supplied was ****. I just kept to myself and made sure to steal a fine selection of steak, shrimp, and fish every time I could to make up for the ****ty pay I was receiving.

While I was on the tether, confined to my condo, and at least eating like a king I discovered a website called Face The Jury. It was a site you could log onto, put a few pics up, be rated, and they had very active public forums where you could post and message other users on the site.

It was on this website where I discovered what I call the "cybersuck." You just start talking to the girl in pms, listen to her stories, and make good friends with her and within a few minutes, hours, or days she'll get naked on webcam for you. Most of these girls were sexual deviants, had boyfriends, and just wanted to be the naughty girl online they couldn't be in real life. Throughout my life I have always had a few girls I talk to strictly online and these girls have been awesome as far as giving me advice on what to do with real life situations with women. The times they'll do stuff for me on webcam is just a bonus. Sometimes women just need a man they can trust with all their dirty secrets, confess all the sexual stuff they want to do, and to watch them rub their vaginas on webcam. While on a tether I had no problem devoting time to this.


Anyway, here's how the story gets degen....


I meet a guy on this site named Gene. Gene's like me as far as having "grind on the mind." He definitely never wants to work hard for any money. I had been talking to him on/off in ims for a long time on the site. I am off the tether now, started to grind maximum $100 buy in poker at greektown, and still working the **** job as a barback. I've got around $5,000.00 to my name now.

Gene starts telling me and two other Face The Jury guys about this list of 10,000 business addresses he has. He wants to create an online phonebook site like www.switchboard.com because at that time it's just becoming the smart thing to do to get your business listed online. Gene provides me and the other would be investors with the laws around sending an invoice solicitation to businesses that looks EXACTLY like their current yellowpages bill.

So, the deal is the business gets an invoice that looks like their yellow pages bill for $249.99. The business cuts the check and pays the bill. You then add that business to the yellowpages site. The business cutting that check signals they agree to be part of the online site you are creating.

It's not fraud as long as you have the site and as long as you put a disclaimer on the invoice "blah blah blah."

So, to do 10,000 envelopes/return envelopes with the professional look/logo and window so the invoice can be folded nicely into/show the address for mailing purposes it's like $5,000.00.

If 1% of the invoices sent convert to payment received. We'll have 100 paid invoices which will equal $25,000.00. A profit of $20,000.00.

In my opinion and the other investor's opinion the math is there.

I agree to put $1500.00 towards the project. The other investors $1,500.00 as well.

We split all profits 25%, 25%, 25%, 25%.

Gene covers the other $500.00.

After during a thorough review of all the laws surrounding invoice solicitation at the time I decide that sending these invoices isn't unlawful, it's just highly unethical.

Like any degen with "grind on the mind"... I'm in and hoping for the best.

I make sure to have my hands off all of it though and have a degen friend of mine at the time receive the 10,000 envelopes, invoices, etc... so I can make sure it's all real, all legit, the finest quality.

The shipment comes in and now me and my friend have 10,000 envelopes to fill, seal, and mail out.

EVERYTHING LOOKS PERFECT.

I AM PUMPED FOR THIS.

I could make $6,250.00 off of a $1500.00 investment and this type of "grind" is 100% unethical, but 100% legal at the time as per the research I did.

Gene was such a degen he begged me to send him $500 for food, gas, rent, etc before we did it all as a loan.

I obliged. So, I was in for 2k on this project. About 50% of my net worth.

So, my guy and I grind for about 35 hours straight and prepare everything to be mailed out.

We mail the envelopes out and wait five days to see if any payments came in.

NOTHING.

10 days...

NOTHING

14 days...

NOTHING

20 days...

NOTHING

30 days...

NOTHING

45 days...

ONE BEAUTIFUL RETURN ENVELOPE WITH A CHECK!!!

Lol, that's it, $250.00 off a 5k investment.

The other investors are enraged. They are calling Gene a scam artist, con artist, etc, etc, etc, on the forum.

I'm still trying to make up my mind about it all.

I decide to come out in public forum and support Gene.

I said, "hey, this guy laid out the plan, took the $$$, sent us the envelopes, invoices, etc, etc, etc as promised. Things just didn't work out. If we have anyone to blame it's ourselves. This guy delivered all he promised to us....we're all dumb degens for believing another dumb degen that this scheme could really work..."

The other guys then thought I might be in on some sort of scam. But I had a great reputation on that site as I was known to makes online sports bets with guys in the forum and had always paid.

Eventually, the other investors relented but were so upset about the investment not working they quit the site.

However, I remained in contact with Gene, and held no hard feelings towards him.

Gene will be part of the next degen story I tell as well, make sure to look at the "brag" for a preview of what's to come.

BEAT: In 2004 I had just got out of jail, was on a tether, was working as a barback for $8.25 a hour, and had around $5,000.00 to my name. I lost almost half of that on an invoice solicitation scam that some guy on a rating site talked me into being part of.

BRAG: This same guy, Gene, would go on to work for a sports betting website in 2007/2008. Him and I would work together to drain over $30,000.00 in payouts sent to me and my good friends bank accounts.

To hear the whole degen story, tune in for Lotgrinder's next post.

Last edited by LotGrinder; 02-28-2013 at 10:47 PM.
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02-28-2013 , 11:11 PM
Dude you have a badass life ^^ I love this thread
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03-01-2013 , 03:26 AM
It's a new month, so how about a "New Sensation"...???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70NgpF_ue_0

Terrance Trent Darby's vocals will soothe your soul.

Just listen to that voice.

If Inxs ever decided to tour with him fronting the band, sign me up.
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03-01-2013 , 11:43 AM
Subbed!!!
I find myself completely lost in your stories there great reads.. It's a totally different life style than mine. (business owner, married, dogs, lives in suburbia, etc......) I really enjoy the posts. I will be recommending it to other 2+2 friends... Keep em coming!!
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03-01-2013 , 11:58 AM
To op.. Another must read.. Great stories here..
Highly recommended..
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh....php?t=1300052
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03-01-2013 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Stacking Chips
To op.. Another must read.. Great stories here..
Highly recommended..
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh....php?t=1300052
Thread title has me interested for sure.

Gonna check it out when I get home.
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03-01-2013 , 11:09 PM
[QUOTE=LotGrinder;37349020]Degen Story #1



"In my head "I'm luck, ****, what's this guy gonna pick now."

Luckily, he picks chess."

Laughed so hard I gagged a little.

Nice thread man. Really really nice.
(Yes, that's 2 really's)

Oh, and mad props for the KMFDM references. Kind of sucks they're skipping MI. Hoping to see them 3/22.
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03-02-2013 , 06:02 AM
I won $425.00 tonight.

Also, that video link was supposed to be Terrance Trent Darby rockin "New Sensation."

That voice........damn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsRvs6fjbhs

Bankroll is currently at $7,426.00.
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03-02-2013 , 10:17 AM
More pics!!!! They make the read soooo much better.. 👍👍😁
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03-03-2013 , 01:38 AM
Amazing read. Subbing to this.

Good luck man.
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