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good thing you posted the link in the old thread
subbed, good luck!

Good luck!

Getting back in. Today was incredibly tough. My legs were shaking after the warm up. I had to pause the video after the warm up and after the first circuit to take a few extra minutes of rest. But as always I feel amazing after finishing (insert sex joke here).

It probably didn't help that I did legs yesterday so they were already sore. I plan on doing the next workout video tomorrow unless I am overly sore. I will attempt not to make the judgement based on how lazy/unlazy I feel but on whether or not its a good choice for my body. There is a level of soreness at which it would probably be best to take the day off, but I shouldn't use it as an excuse to skip a day just because I'm feeling lazy.

(attempting to inject logic ahead of time)

some serious bumhunting going on here

gl

A friend and student of mine started a PGC thread

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...e-pro-1420148/

Go give him some support!

I actually had to take 2 days off. My calves were so incredibly sore it was painful to even stand. I've been going out of my way to stretch them basically every time I stand up. Tomorrow I will start back up. My calves will likely still be a little sore but nothing like they were yesterday.

Good Job Sean keep it going !!

The Mental Game of Poker by Jared Tendler

Resolution

-Resolution is the solution to mental game problems.. The emotion connected to your mental game problem goes away.

When you resolve your mental game problems
1) You free up mental space to increase focus on strategic decisions
2) You've improved your worse which allows your best to now improve further (inchworm)

One way to achieve resolution is The Mental Hand History
- To solve a mental game problem permanently, you need to get to the root of the issue, understand the logical reason it happens, and find out why that logic is flawed. To do that he suggest the 5 step Mental Hand History process
1) Describe the problem - This can be as simple as "I go on tilt when I lose a big pot to a fish"
2) Why does it make logical sense that you would react or feel that way? - The logical reason we would go on tilt is because we expect to beat bad players
3) Why is that logic flawed? - A reason we expect to always beat fish may be that we believe at a deep level that we have more control than we actually do
4) What is the correct way to handle the situation? - This step is similar to injecting logic. He also says its important to use affirmative language in the statement. "I can't control the cards but I can control how well I play and how well I react"
5) Why is this correction correct? - This seems to be a little repetitive, but i guess frames the logic from step 4 slightly differently. "Control at the poker table comes through my decisions and how well I handle what happens at the table. Bad beats have to happen because without them the game would fundamentally change"


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Been a while since I read further in the book. Sometimes I get to feeling good about my game and put off reading the book. For example this month I had a goal to continue reading and taking notes on the book but afaik this is the first time this month I've done so.

I think my tilt issues started to dissipate immediately on started the 2014 thread which sort of lead me to get comfortable and lazy again. This actually seems to be a problem with me in life in general. I start projects, set out a solid and reasonable plan for achieving them and get started. After a while I start to see some results and feel somewhat satisfied with them and start to get lazy with it. This happens in poker (volume), poker study (this thread among other things), working out, keeping up with chores around the house, dieting, etc I'm obviously not the only person who has the same problem but I'm not entirely sure how to fix it.


This is possibly some type of subconscious self sabotage. Maybe its a fear of failure, like if I put myself really far out there and it isn't successful thats more of a failure than just kind of purposely 'forgetting' about the goal. Maybe those two are the same thing. I dunno.

Then again my lack of follow through on diet, working out and keeping the house cleaner certainly cant be fear of failure. Can you really fail at vacuuming the house once a week except by being lazy? Of course not. So it just has to be lack of motivation for those.

So maybe my lack of motivation in poker is caused by fear. What's my lack of motivation in working out caused by? I really don't think people are lazy, they just lack motivation. The hardest working people are that way because they desire the end result more than those who don't work as hard. Not for any other reason. So how do I find the motivation on the day to day basis to do the boring and repetitive **** that is required to make it to the next level in poker and physically?

I'm very much just thinking out loud right now. I don't think I have an answer to any of this yet. May not even be asking the right questions yet.

For now I'm skipping to chapter 7 on Motivation. This is clearly the issue with everything, I start with high motivation and produce good results and then my motivation dwindles.

well one thing to keep in mind is its always about the process and not the destination

even if you get shredded up with a perfect beach body and achieve your fitness goals, you will just lose it pretty soon if you don't keep at it. so i guess im saying with that stuff maybe you should just try to put a reasonable workout schedule on your google calendar and just focus on working out those days as your goal and keep it at that.

you cant evaluate the chores thing since your whole view on household chores is going to be shaped by your roommate's dirty kitchen habits for right now

you are INTJ mastermind palpatine you probably just enjoy the process of engineering a sweet plan towards success so you get more pumped up for that side of things more than the long term follow thru. once you start making progress and your subconscious might realize that the long term goal is in fact attainable and you start to already mentally view it as mostly finished.

just thinking out loud as well

astronauts follow through on their plans

I've actually been thinking a lot about the personality type aspect of it. I think the reason I enjoy poker is because I get to develop a system. I also used to like to collect things, not because I liked the things I was collecting but because I could kind of place the things into categories. So with poker I put this hand in this situation into this category and it makes sense because of X.

And with the goal setting its almost the same thing. I list out the things I want, place them into categories and then list out some logical steps to take in each category. And I find that whole process very enjoyable. Then I start implementing and discovering little flaws in the plan so I get to start editing and changing the plan to make it more streamlined. But it doesn't take too long to go from 0 to 99 on the planning part which only leaves the repetitive day in, day out stuff.

I read the chapter on motivation last night and it covers quite a bit of this from a slightly different angle. I think we've uncovered what Tendler calls an underlying goal. While my thread title and OP list some specific monetary and process goals I actually have a hidden goal of experiencing positive emotions that I get from the process of designing the system

Well that was difficult. I will be back after I go die in a corner for a few hours.

This was day 2 of insanity. You'll notice that I took a full 3 days off in between. Even today my calves hurt quite a bit getting started but about halfway through the warm up they felt much better. Today's workout focused on some more strength building exercises that involved more deep movements but was easily if not more cardio intense than day 1. The power jumps specifically get my heart rate breathing going (they are also tough for me to get the form right, I sort of flail around a little bit in the air instead of being all controlled like Shaun T)

Feel awesome. Still probably gonna die tho.

they say pure cardio is the toughest out of month 1, imo it's cardio power & resistance, hate that one

I definitely find Plyo harder than pure cardio. I think its because I just kind of know ahead of time that I'm not making it all the way thru pure cardio with good form and high speed, so I think i maybe slack some on it. Where as Plyo has all the little breaks and I kind of mentally ramp myself up every break to go hard. I still get real tired real quick during every exercise, but I think that little break makes me push myself a little harder. Just guessing.

For Power and Resistance I think its just the specific exercises that make it really tough for me.

Great thread. Subbed.

The Mental Game of Poker by Jared Tendler

Motivation

- Motivation is the emotion or energy behind achieving your goals. If you are lacking motivation you either have a goals problem or a problem with the energy needed to achieve them.
- Some examples of goals problems

• You only have results oriented and no process oriented goals
• You have high expectations
• You have no short-term goals
• You fail to set goals after you reach old ones
• You have too many goals
• You have many interests and can't choose what you want
• You have underlying goals such as looking good, avoiding mistakes, or keeping your winrate

Inspiration
-Inspiration is short, intense bursts of energy that can be utilized to achieve your goals. He differentiates it from motivation saying that motivation is more long term. Inspiration = sprint, Motivation = marathon

Laziness
- Being lazy just means that your motivation for watching TV or sleeping is higher than your motivation for grinding or being productive.

Procrastination
- To eliminate procrastination you must first eliminate the belief that "there is always tomorrow"
I think for me I might need to even extend this to eliminating the belief in 'later today' because I find that not only do I put things off till tomorrow only to not do them, but I also put them off for 'an hour' and then never do them.
- You don't have to do it all today. But do SOMETHING.

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I'll pick up tomorrow with Burnout and Underlying Goals

gl dawg

What is the problem with this?

They are problem only if they are underlying goals (subconscious). For example, let's say we have an underlying goal of looking/cool when we play poker. We'd be taking steps to realize this goal but not completely consciously, so we might be a bit more prone to light call downs or FPS. If we have an underlying goal of maintaining a certain winrate we might become very reluctant to put in volume once our HM shows that winrate for the month.

Nice writing I love this thread. This is like a huge class for tilting and mental game awesome!

^^All my hands in this database.




^^Hands since start of challenge

Not playing tonight or tomorrow night.

Will probably finish notes on the motivation chapter and set some goals for March when I get back from running errands. Goals will hopefully reflect some of my new found knowledge on motivation.

http://weaktight.com/6538812
I think my play here is pretty standard. His play is pretty poor. He thinks I'm capped in a spot where I definitely am not. This definitely seems like a board where i should have a betting, check/calling, check/raising and check/folding range. Pretty confident this hand works best in my c/c range, but unsure which hands to put in my c/r range. I will have T7s and 75s preflop but both are discounted a decent amount so maybe 4 combos of straights, so I'd need maybe 8 combos of bluffs and I'm not sure where they'd come from. QJ i guess but I doubt I 3bet even half of the 16 combos of QJ in this spot. Everything else seems either too good to bluff with or too terrible to bluff with.

http://weaktight.com/6538821
This river spot was a little interesting. I will end up with maybe 3 combos of 8x and 11 combos of boat/quad on river. I'd have only a few busted draws (AQs,ATs,KQs,9Ts) and then the draws that contain a J (JTs,QJs,KJs,AJs). So if I jam my Jx hands my range is unblanced and heavily weighted towards value. I think this is probably OK in this spot because I just expect to have the best hand so often as I doubt this villain checks any better hand with the intention of trapping.

Your first hand is very wp IMO. Question- what do you do with a hand like KK/QQ? Are you still c/c-ing a few streets and then deciding?


Hand 2, I agree that villain probably doesn't really check many better hands (he'd have to give you credit to either play a flush draw like this or some made hand turned bluff).