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08-07-2014 , 05:49 AM
Waiting for the "not folding A6s pre in BB vs. BTN-raise team" WRs after applying the following filters : "Hole Card = A6s" / "Position = SB + BB" / "Did Cold Call = True"
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08-07-2014 , 05:56 AM
Guys, we need a new team name!
"not folding A6s pre in BB vs. BTN-raise team" doesn´t really roll of the tounge .
Edit: I suggest "The defenders!"

All kidding aside, good discussion.
Will think a bit differently about my defense ranges after this.
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08-07-2014 , 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Anuth
Waiting for the "not folding A6s pre in BB vs. BTN-raise team" WRs after applying the following filters : "Hole Card = A6s" / "Position = SB + BB" / "Did Cold Call = True"
Just saying, they don't need to show a profit here, they only need to show that they're greater than -100bb/100 with this hand (-100bb/100 is the EV of folding).

And if you can't do better than -100bb/100 with A6s vs a typical button raising range when defending against a minraise, you have serious leaks in your game.
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08-07-2014 , 06:02 AM
Raise A6s in the blinds vs LP steal! You have a blocker! 3bet this foo and cbet ANY flop IMO
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08-07-2014 , 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by chinoxl
Raise A6s in the blinds vs LP steal! You have a blocker! 3bet this foo and cbet ANY flop IMO
I'd be careful with the "blocker" rationale.
When ranges are this wide it's effect is not large if there is one at all.
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08-07-2014 , 08:17 AM


I even added all A2-A7s and A2-A6o for a bigger sample size. Notice i called almost always, and im winning 12bb.

We can defend sooo wide vs min btn opens.

Lets take this defending range





42bb winner,

Wider?





45b winner

Last edited by Big_Mick00; 08-07-2014 at 08:23 AM.
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08-07-2014 , 08:33 AM
Great post. Pretty conclusive I'd say.
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08-07-2014 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Danshiel350
Great post. Pretty conclusive I'd say.
And back to the PG & C thread! But seriously, good stuff.
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08-07-2014 , 11:02 AM
Well played Big Mick!

I think its fair to say that a lot of us beginners don't realise how much we can (and should) defend versus min opens BB v BTN. Of course this kind of is why I posted that hand, to see what postflop options are open to make me a crusher like Big Mick myself!!!

Thanks for taking the time to help us Big Man!!
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08-07-2014 , 12:27 PM
How does that equate to 45 bb winner? What im seeing is -54.33 BB. So what am i missing? Thanks
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08-07-2014 , 12:30 PM
If you folded every time, you would be -100. That is your starting point from te bb
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08-07-2014 , 01:14 PM
It is easy to say you have to defend your blinds more but tbf Big_Mick has some serious post flop game to back up the loose flats. I'm just curious...until the post flop game is shored up is it better to keep that range tightened up a bit?
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08-07-2014 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by spacehippie
It is easy to say you have to defend your blinds more but tbf Big_Mick has some serious post flop game to back up the loose flats. I'm just curious...until the post flop game is shored up is it better to keep that range tightened up a bit?
"A Bit" sure, that's possible.

But never A6s imo;
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08-07-2014 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars
Just saying, they don't need to show a profit here, they only need to show that they're greater than -100bb/100 with this hand (-100bb/100 is the EV of folding).
Ty Captain Obvious to remind us that the Ev of folding BB is -100bb/100
That said I did not expect seeing positive WR here... Was just curious how did "The defenders" perform into that spot.



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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars
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And if you can't do better than -100bb/100 with A6s vs a typical button raising range when defending against a minraise, you have serious leaks in your game.
It is very touching that you care sooooo much about my leaks
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08-07-2014 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Danshiel350
"A Bit" sure, that's possible.

But never A6s imo;
lol @ A6s not being in there

I was talking about the bottom of that range that Big_Mick posted.
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08-07-2014 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Danshiel350
If you folded every time, you would be -100. That is your starting point from te bb
Thank you
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08-07-2014 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Danshiel350
I'd be careful with the "blocker" rationale.
When ranges are this wide it's effect is not large if there is one at all.
Yea I get you since he's "stealing" raising blockers would be good vs a pfr of say 19%?
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08-08-2014 , 07:24 AM
Schedule and Short Term Goals Update - 8.08.2014


Schedule 8th August 2014

1030 - 1040 = Import hands and mark hands for review in PT4.
1040 - 1050 = Set schedule and update weekly goals.
1050 - 1120 = Catch up in Skype groups (they getting active!!)
1120 - 1600 = Follow routine for poker habits.

No play tonight working on houses - ONE MORE WEEK!!

0515 - 0640 = Poker video then at the tables.



Short Term Goals Week Commencing 4th August 2014

1. At the start of every session make a post-it note of two things to focus on each session. One to be strategy (such as 3betting/cbetting etc) and one to be work related (such as mark hands/make notes etc). Aim for 100% of making the post-it! - "Cbet that mother!" and "Mark cbet hands". (Week 5/5)

2. Post every single marked hand for the week somewhere and prove to yourself you did it! - Done 11. (Week = 27/27)

3. Check a preflop range versus another player every time your trigger cue happens. Measure YES or NO and keep running total. Aim for 100% completion. - No!! I do this an hour before I leave work and something very important came up so decided to prioritise! (Week = 3/4)

4. Post a "hand of the day" into blog. - Ahhhh! Can't believe I did not do this! I posted 11 hands and forgot to put one in here, what a donk! (Week = 2/2)

5. Play 8 hours. - Played 6 hours 8 mins. 1 hour 34 mins ahead! Could get close, depends how last house goes...

3 x
2 x

Had decent poker day yesterday, lots of good HH posting. Got some unexpected time with kids too.
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08-08-2014 , 10:35 AM
my motivation <3

gogogogo
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08-08-2014 , 10:10 PM
impressed indeed
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08-09-2014 , 06:45 AM
Stubbed! Graph since starting thread?
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08-09-2014 , 07:24 AM
"Stubbed". Haha

You don't need to scroll up far for graph
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08-09-2014 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Big_Mick00



Wider?





45b winner
Just to touch on this subject again, why is it that you defend Q5o but fold T8o and offsuit connectors? Instinctively I'd be more inclined to call with the offsuit connector hands though that's probably wtong, would just like to hear why.
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08-09-2014 , 07:56 AM
If I missed the off suit connectors it's because I missed them in the filters, I defend them, like I missed QJs
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08-09-2014 , 08:53 AM
Thanks mick for taking the time to prove me wrong by searching your database. As pointed out by someone else your results are probly the fruit of your postflop edges. Would you like to share with us a general strategy for blind defense ?
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