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02-01-2017 , 07:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marches
Hi i'm new in this thread and have only one question: why is op still at 10nl if his first post says he was going to be a pro? just curious, can't really go through 100 pages of posts. Thanks and GL.
Warning: turning pro is hard ****ing work!
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02-02-2017 , 12:37 PM
500 Days To Beat NL100 Zoom Or Quit Poker - 425 Days To Go


Results For The Day


(Games played =NL10 Fast)

Crazy session...

It was going along fine and then lost KK v JJ all-in pre and then JJ < QQ all in pre, standard stuff...

Then had a period (1150 hands - 1300 hands on graph) where every 3b bluff got 4bet every steal got 3b, every 4b bluff got jammed on you know, also standard...

Then I heard one of kids stirring so sat out and went and listened - didn't come to anything. As I was sitting there on bottom of stairs I was kinda laughing at myself as I was feeling frustration boiling up.

You know the thoughts "I can't do this", "Why am I losing these big pots", "Why am I getting 4b to hell"!!!!

Gave myself a serious dressing down I can tell you. Went along these lines...

"You think this is tough you stupid piece of ****!? This is nothing! You are fkn blessed to even have the chance to play poker and do these things. If this is giving you these thoughts you have seriously got no fkn chance of making it. Go and do the work. Be patient. And quit fkn complaining you piece of ****!"

Then I made myself a drink, sat back at the tables promptly won one 100bb pot and then immediately 2 outered some mofo in a 300bb pot.

Now that's fkn karma!!!!!!!!

Notes
  • Studied 1 hour (hand reviews, re-read all old hands reviewed by coach)
  • Looking for other sites with Fast Fold
  • Will play some reg tables (in fact anything to get out of NL10!)
  • Changing some preflop ranges a little
  • Push ups x 26 here
  • Jumped rope 8 mins
  • Did NOT train at Wing Chun as wife was out on a jolly!
Hands

1. Real Poker Skills


424 days to go...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Husker
Hand 2 - Some stats on villain would be handy
Hand 3 - Might be a bit loose opening K9s in MP
No stats. Thx re K9s mate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PandaLife
Think they only run at NL2 and NL5 or something, at least that's how it was some time back.
Yh looks like they are available but not played! Meh. Thx for rapid reply amigo!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marches
Hi i'm new in this thread and have only one question: why is op still at 10nl if his first post says he was going to be a pro? just curious, can't really go through 100 pages of posts. Thanks and GL.
Thread is for sadists and masochists only! There is a chance thread title could be wrong. Doubtful but possible!
Spoiler:
But seriously if you want cliffs I will write them - whilst trying not to make it sound like a barrage of excuses!!!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
Warning: turning pro is hard ****ing work!
Lolled hard, WP!
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02-02-2017 , 03:44 PM
1-outered, 2-outered, what's the difference!!!!!!!!!
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02-03-2017 , 05:39 AM
Quickie...

Regular tables are way easier to beat!!!!!

Spoiler:


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02-03-2017 , 11:34 AM
500 Days To Beat NL100 Zoom Or Quit Poker - Week Summary


Summary for Days 430 --> 424

Graph For Week


(Stakes/Sites Played = Partypoker NL10 Fast (95%), NL10 Regular (5%))

Net Profit = -$29.93
Rakeback & Bonuses = NIL

Total Profit This Week = -$29.93

Notes
Nothing to say, I will keep working...

500 Day Challenge Total Profit = -$61.81

423 Days To Go - Get on with it idiot...
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02-05-2017 , 10:45 AM
2 sessions...



Spent hours in HM2.

Changed some ranges. Fact is anyone using a basic HUD can crush me without looking at their cards.

This is war...

421 to go...

Last edited by KP24; 02-05-2017 at 10:53 AM.
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02-06-2017 , 06:16 AM
Quick question please amigos...

If I RFI BTN 2bb (for ease) and fold to 3b my winrate for that hand is -2bb/hand so -200bb/100 - correct?

So, when I call the 3bet I want my winrate to be better than -200bb/100 - is that correct?

OR

When I continue versus the 3bet I want it to be better than -200bb/100 - is that better?

Ty to anyone helpful enough to answer.
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02-06-2017 , 08:36 AM
Your winrate when you call a 3bet is going to be lower than your winrate when you continue vs a 3bet (i guess you mean calls and 4bets by that) because you don't have the super high winrate provided by hands like AA KK in your calling range.

But your winrate when calling a 3bet should obviously be better than -200bb/100 otherwise you're better off folding the hand preflop.
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02-06-2017 , 08:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KP24
Quick question please amigos...

If I RFI BTN 2bb (for ease) and fold to 3b my winrate for that hand is -2bb/hand so -200bb/100 - correct?

So, when I call the 3bet I want my winrate to be better than -200bb/100 - is that correct?

OR

When I continue versus the 3bet I want it to be better than -200bb/100 - is that better?

Ty to anyone helpful enough to answer.

I wouldnt think of it that way because its kind of confusing to me..

You should think about it like this:

If you open from the BU x% of hands, how should the defending range of SB and BB have to look like to make sure that you can not steal with any two cards..
Once you have these Ranges you can look how much YOU have to defend against their 3bets to make sure that they cant exploit you by 3betting any two cards and so on..
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02-06-2017 , 12:31 PM
500 Days To Beat NL100 Zoom Or Quit Poker - 421 Days To Go


Results For The Day


(Games played =NL10 Fast & Reg)

I went to war. New mindset.

Losing 100bb 4th hand was not cool but good fight back.

Battle number one was a win.

This was 4th hand...



420 days to go...





Quote:
Originally Posted by frontal lobe
Your winrate when you call a 3bet is going to be lower than your winrate when you continue vs a 3bet (i guess you mean calls and 4bets by that) because you don't have the super high winrate provided by hands like AA KK in your calling range.

But your winrate when calling a 3bet should obviously be better than -200bb/100 otherwise you're better off folding the hand preflop.
Got it, thx a lot for the help friend.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldteeth90
I wouldnt think of it that way because its kind of confusing to me..

You should think about it like this:

If you open from the BU x% of hands, how should the defending range of SB and BB have to look like to make sure that you can not steal with any two cards..
Once you have these Ranges you can look how much YOU have to defend against their 3bets to make sure that they cant exploit you by 3betting any two cards and so on..
Okay, I think I get this. Thank you so much for helping me.
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02-06-2017 , 02:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldteeth90
I wouldnt think of it that way because its kind of confusing to me..

You should think about it like this:

If you open from the BU x% of hands, how should the defending range of SB and BB have to look like to make sure that you can not steal with any two cards..
Once you have these Ranges you can look how much YOU have to defend against their 3bets to make sure that they cant exploit you by 3betting any two cards and so on..
Having an idea of what you're losing when you fold can be handy in terms of looking at how your 3bet defence ranges are performing.
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02-06-2017 , 07:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldteeth90
I wouldnt think of it that way because its kind of confusing to me..

You should think about it like this:

If you open from the BU x% of hands, how should the defending range of SB and BB have to look like to make sure that you can not steal with any two cards..
Once you have these Ranges you can look how much YOU have to defend against their 3bets to make sure that they cant exploit you by 3betting any two cards and so on..
This is completely incorrect, so I would ignore it Chris, unless it is to understand why it's wrong.
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02-07-2017 , 08:26 AM
500 Days To Beat NL100 Zoom Or Quit Poker - 420 Days To Go


Results For The Day


(Games played =NL10 Fast & Reg)

This battle was lost.

Lessons learned:
  • I don't understand the 3b/4b/5b game well enough. Action = Coach gave me some adaptions to make and I added some stats to HUD.
  • Other players at my games understand the 3b/4b/5b game better than me as they are definitely exploiting my ranges/frequencies. Action = New stats in HUD. Spend some time in FE calculator to understand the whys and hows better.
  • I cbet bluff the turn too much when I don't have enough fold equity. Action = Mark hands in question and review.
  • The fear of losing is still there in me although way less than before. Action = Courage. Fear is good but I face it with courage and do not let it cripple me.
Other Stuff:

I've been training at Wing Chun for 9 months now and last night was the first time to put the gloves on and make some real contact! Sparred with a 20 year old Grade 8 or 9 for 15 minutes and I think this 46 year old grade 4 sprang a few surprises (even if the technique was somewhat lacking)! Life in this old dog yet I tell ya!

419 days to go...

This battle was lost but I am not killed. It's not even close...
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02-08-2017 , 08:37 AM
Making sure you're not exploitable by anyone using a basic HUD is really important. Focus on that and do regular DB reviews to track progression.
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02-08-2017 , 11:35 AM
500 Days To Beat NL100 Zoom Or Quit Poker - 419 Days To Go


Results For The Day


(Games played =NL10 Fast & Reg)

Battle number three was a crushing victory!

At war that's 2-1 in favour of hard work and patience.

Lessons Learned:
  • I need to work on my 3b/4b/5b game. Action = More time in the fold equity calculator and look into the plays of regulars at my games.
  • I made a silly mistake postflop in a 3bet pot. Action = Make a game to practice 3b postflop lines until they are ingrained.
  • The thrill of victory is a better feeling than the secure/comfort feeling of playing it safe. Action = Beat those f***ers. To death.
Other:
  • Push ups day x 17 here
  • Jump rope x 8 mins
  • Slept 5h 50m - was tired at end of session but very active day for my brain!
  • Coach is amazing - giving me so much info and did another DB review for me of last 30k hands

418 days to go...

"It's not about how much sleep you get. It's about what you do when you're awake." - @GaryVee

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
Making sure you're not exploitable by anyone using a basic HUD is really important. Focus on that and do regular DB reviews to track progression.
Thanks TDA, am implementing this now, brilliant!
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02-09-2017 , 11:39 AM
500 Days To Beat NL100 Zoom Or Quit Poker - 418 Days To Go


Results For The Day


(Games played = NL10 Fast & Regular)

A frenetic battle that was close but LOST. No fatalities...

Weird session. Was going along nicely picking the pots up then I either got exploited or maybe they just had it!? Could be time to completely change the plan - versus unknowns as well as the 4b monkeys

Lessons Learned:

I am not good enough at the 3b/4b/5b game. Action = More time in FE Calculator, Equilab and HM2. How much do they 4bet me? How often do I need them to fold to jam XX? What range can I call facing a 4bet? Do they even fold versus 3b!?

Notes
  • Day 146 Push Ups done x 17 here
  • Jumped rope x 8 minutes
  • Trained at Wing Chun class
  • My 5 year old son took his first Kung Fu class tonight and loved it. Kind of emotional as he doesn't mix too well and can't take/understand instruction (in other words he is a chip off the old block!).
Hands

Not complaining, these were just part of the fun on the swings...

Stitched up...



Flopping nuts...



Forgot to screen shot the early hand where I flopped a boat and rivered quads with 55 on 665, 8, 5 and got paid off by A8!!!

417 days to go...

Bruised. Battered. Not defeated...
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02-11-2017 , 06:10 AM
500 Days To Beat NL100 Zoom Or Quit Poker - 416 Days To Go + Week + 417 Days To Go


Missed posting. Due to grafting. It was more important...

Results For Day 417


(Games played =NL10 Fast & Reg)

Fold, fold, fold. Need to make hands v these monkeys...

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500 Days To Beat NL100 Zoom Or Quit Poker - Week Summary


Summary for Days 423 --> 417

Graph For Week


Stakes/Sites Played = Partypoker NL10 Fast & Reg

Net Profit = -$15.23
Rakeback & Bonuses = NIL

Total Profit This Week = -$15.23

500 Day Challenge Total Profit = -$77.04 (-$61.81 -$15.23)

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Results For Day 416


(Games played =NL10 Fast & Reg)

I have almost zero fold equity
  • Push ups both days
  • Jumped rope both days
  • Spent many hours in preflop play/Equilab/FE Calculator/EV calculations
415 days to go...
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02-12-2017 , 03:19 PM
Hi KP, have been reading for a while but i think this is my first contribution. You have incredible determination which can only help you in the long run!

Feel free to say no if you dont wanna post them but could you maybe post your positional stats?

As a total guess from your graphs/stakes I am thinking you maybe end up playing a good few hands oop vs fishy players who dont like to fold to cbets?

GL man.
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02-12-2017 , 03:50 PM
500 Days To Beat NL100 Zoom Or Quit Poker - 415 Days To Go


Results For The Day


(Games played =NL10 Fast & Reg)

414 days to go...
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02-12-2017 , 03:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy19137
Hi KP, have been reading for a while but i think this is my first contribution. You have incredible determination which can only help you in the long run!

Feel free to say no if you dont wanna post them but could you maybe post your positional stats?

As a total guess from your graphs/stakes I am thinking you maybe end up playing a good few hands oop vs fishy players who dont like to fold to cbets?

GL man.
Hi mate, for sure (I think) - tell me which ones will help you to help me please Sir?
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02-12-2017 , 04:22 PM
Well I can't guarantee I will be able to help, I'm no crusher myself - but I will try.

Nothing too deep for now, VPIP, PFR, 3B, FOLD TO 3B AFTER 2B (PRE), AFQ, FLOP CBET, TURN CBET.

If you could split these for all positions that would be helpful. Don't worry if you can't find some and need to leave them out. You could stick 4b ratio in there too.
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02-12-2017 , 05:16 PM
Hello,

Been reading since about the beginning of the year. I hope all your hard work pays off.

Im doing something similar I started January 1st with about $170, gonna see what I can turn it in to. Playing mostly nl 6max but dabbling in a bit of everything.

Just wanted to chime in and say best of luck.
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02-14-2017 , 05:51 AM
Hi faithful followers.

Today I am having my first real mindset struggle with poker. I am just going to be honest here and not gloss over it with my usual upbeat spirit and attitude...

On Sunday night I lost almost 4 buy ins...



I was having some issues with HM2 and also was setting up things on Microgaming so maybe that did not help (if it didn't it's my own fkn fault for not playing nl2 while doing that).

I made one really terrible call down with an over pair which cost me 80bb but I guess looking back the other two big pots I lost were played "okay".

Last night I played much more solid...



... and lost yet again.

Not really sure what is going on in my head today. I have never really had such a negative feeling. I honestly feel like I cannot do it.

I know that probably sounds dumb to a lot of you guys because maybe it looks pretty obvious that I cannot do it!

It's just that, well, I never once really felt like this. Not about anything.

Yesterday I really battered myself. I spent a long time "in front of the mirror" giving myself a proper dressing down about my bad play on Sunday night. I am talking about hours here too, not minutes.

Maybe today is an aftermath of all that negative self talk, I don't know.

Anyway, just thought I would share that with you guys. It makes a bit of a change I would imagine?

It certainly does to me as I don't remember ever feeling like this - even at school when I had 7+ years of them telling me "you cannot do it"!

I only know one way to cope with this.

Hard work. Patience. Discipline.

See you tomorrow amigos. With a smile on my face for sure.

P.S. Happy Valentine's. I still love you poker, don't worry!
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02-14-2017 , 08:29 AM
Yo KP, questions for you - how many tables are you playing at time? had a similar issue with similar schedule as you (work, BJJ, 3 kids) and found playing after work and had some mental fatigue that playing a single table allowed for deeper analysis of spots and greater win rate.
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02-14-2017 , 10:20 AM
It's okay... Coach is going to drop everything and come and live at my house for a month to get me sorted!

Spoiler:
Actually he is going to sweat me tonnes and I am not even going to play without him for a while...


Sorry guys, in my moment of weakness I forgot to reply to you...

Quote:
Originally Posted by andy19137
Well I can't guarantee I will be able to help, I'm no crusher myself - but I will try.

Nothing too deep for now, VPIP, PFR, 3B, FOLD TO 3B AFTER 2B (PRE), AFQ, FLOP CBET, TURN CBET.

If you could split these for all positions that would be helpful. Don't worry if you can't find some and need to leave them out. You could stick 4b ratio in there too.
I will PM you about this Sir if that's okay.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TINT
Hello,

Been reading since about the beginning of the year. I hope all your hard work pays off.

Im doing something similar I started January 1st with about $170, gonna see what I can turn it in to. Playing mostly nl 6max but dabbling in a bit of everything.

Just wanted to chime in and say best of luck.
Really appreciate the GL, thank you so much. GL to you too!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Galfondprodigy
Yo KP, questions for you - how many tables are you playing at time? had a similar issue with similar schedule as you (work, BJJ, 3 kids) and found playing after work and had some mental fatigue that playing a single table allowed for deeper analysis of spots and greater win rate.
Yh lately I just played 2 tables due to losing with awesome consistency! I think you are onto something that I could certainly do on some of my sessions for sure (like after a hard day etc). Thanks for that input.
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