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PLO Zoom microstakes beatable for beginner? (100k hands) PLO Zoom microstakes beatable for beginner? (100k hands)

07-25-2016 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mecantplay
Plo is funny and swingy game so gl hf playing it. Now i play plo5 too and didnt have hands vs u. If u see me write hi
Good to hear mate, hope to see you on the tables indeed. Good luck!
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07-25-2016 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MicrostakesEndBoss
Good luck with your challenge! I just started my 2+2 thread for my attempt to ladder up. I had several years away from poker because I realised I needed to rethink my fundamentals from scratch, so my loss of $5k has always seemed like unfinished business. I have a bit more experience than you, but not way more. By the way, is there a convenient place to store my graphs so that they can be posted here ? Some sort of cloud server place ? I'm a bit out of the loop on things like that, so any help would be appreciated :-).
Sounds like unfinished business indeed! For me I just print-screen the graph (session or total) directly from my pokertracker, HM2, and upload to tinypic.com so that I can display them here. If you want to keep the screenshots I'd think just putting them in a folder on your computer is just as good, but if you have the need to access them from several computers you could probably use Dropbox. HM2 also has a cloud-service now which is very convenient so that you can get all your hand history gathered even if you play on more than one computer.

Good luck and happy grinding!
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07-25-2016 , 05:35 PM
Thanks for the advice frallan :-). We might bump into each other on the way up/down lol. (Stars Zoom PLO, me currently on PLO10)
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07-25-2016 , 06:07 PM
Cool! I just posted a couple of graphs from my very new Tinypics account :-)
Thanks so much!
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07-25-2016 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MicrostakesEndBoss
Thanks for the advice frallan :-). We might bump into each other on the way up/down lol. (Stars Zoom PLO, me currently on PLO10)
No worries, I'm always glad to help. Subscribed to your thread as well. Yeah, I'm sure we'll trade some pots sooner or later
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07-25-2016 , 09:37 PM
Kept running really bad tonight as well, but played pretty decent overall. At least my redline was better today than it usually is, hope to keep that going

Session:

Hands: 3282
Net won: -2,44$
All-In EV: 20,86$



Challenge total:


Hands: 20105
Net won: 44,66$
All-In EV: 68,04$
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07-30-2016 , 10:49 PM
Played a couple of thousand hands more since the last post and I've now completed about 1/4 of the challenge. Can't seem to stop running bad at the moment unfortunately.

Challenge total:

Hands: 24 571
Net won: -13.71$ for a -1,68bb/100 winrate so far
All-In EV: 34.14$ for a 4.1bb/100 winrate so far

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07-31-2016 , 04:07 AM
Got a decent amount of hands in this morning. Was playing well, but man... I can't remember the last time i ran over EV :P

Session:

Hands: 2795
Net won: -21,87$
All-In EV: 25,68$




Challenge total:

Hands: 27 368
Net won: -35,58$
All-In EV: 59,82$
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07-31-2016 , 03:44 PM
Shorter session on the evening. Finally a session where i was not way under EV

Session:

Hands: 1017
Net won: 27,43$
All-In EV: 10,34$



Challenge total:

Hands: 28 385
Net won: -8,15$
All-In EV: 70,16$
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08-01-2016 , 03:59 PM
Played a short but sweet session today. Simply solid

Session:

Hands: 1 211
Net won: 23,93$
All-In EV: 18,97$




Challenge total:


Hands: 29 596
Net won: 15,78$
All-In EV: 89,13$
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08-02-2016 , 04:55 AM
Kinda happy I'm not playing higher stakes whilst having this trend. Game still feels solid at least

Session:

Hands: 2 497
Net won: -27,57$
All-In EV: 19,72$






Challenge total:

Hands: 33 091
Net won: -24,27$
All-In EV: 100,01$
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08-02-2016 , 04:59 AM
Hey man, have played a little bit with you recently, i think we've stacked each other once or twice

good luck!
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08-02-2016 , 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by shutdown
Hey man, have played a little bit with you recently, i think we've stacked each other once or twice

good luck!
You have probably won those battles considering the way I'm running right now Good luck to you as well!
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08-04-2016 , 07:56 AM
Long session today. No further commentary needed...

Session:

Hands: 4 084
Net won: -30,14$
All-In EV: 24,48$





Challenge total:

Hands: 37 195
Net won: -54,41$
All-In EV: 124,44$

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08-04-2016 , 09:53 AM
i think your graphs would look a lot cooler if you got rid of the showdown lines.
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09-19-2016 , 08:46 PM
So, long time since the last update. I've kept running even (!) worse for a while now. Got a little bit of tilt for a while there, but have managed to turn it around again. Kind of proud about that, took alot of mental determination. I'm basically done with 3/4 of the challenge as of now. If I just keep a positive EV for the last 25k hands I will actually be beating the field pre rakeback and successfully complete the challenge, since my EV right now is just in the greens. Let's hope I can do that! Just awful that I'm about 80 buy-ins under EV (almost 100 at the worst point), but what can you do?

Challenge total:

Hands: 74646
Net won: -385,65$
All-In EV: 0,10$

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09-21-2016 , 12:08 PM
Nasty! Hope it turns around for you.
I recognise your name, so I'm sure we've played a few hands together recently at PLO5z.
Good Luck!
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09-23-2016 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by grant121
Nasty! Hope it turns around for you.
I recognise your name, so I'm sure we've played a few hands together recently at PLO5z.
Good Luck!
Nasty indeed! I'm sure we have. Good luck to you too! =]
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09-23-2016 , 07:26 AM
Getting close now... 83k hands down, 17 to go. Have been playing extremely well lately, that EV-line is almost straight as an arrow upwards the last 20k hands, and finally I've stopped running extremely bad.

Challenge total:

Hands: 83 162
Net Won: -282,17$
All-In EV: 58,64$

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11-18-2016 , 07:38 AM
Heey man. Interesting challenge. Follow with interest. I'm actually in some similar challenge like you. I started as a completely noobie at PLO5 like 2 weeks ago. I had quite a good start kickin me to PLO25 zoom and PLO50 reg in something under 20k hands using a solid BRM.
I thought maybe you might be interested in checkin my blog out too.
For now im only running one on facebook under--->https://www.facebook.com/harrypotsize/

Gl at the tables!
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11-18-2016 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by HarryPotsize
Heey man. Interesting challenge. Follow with interest. I'm actually in some similar challenge like you. I started as a completely noobie at PLO5 like 2 weeks ago. I had quite a good start kickin me to PLO25 zoom and PLO50 reg in something under 20k hands using a solid BRM.
I thought maybe you might be interested in checkin my blog out too.
For now im only running one on facebook under--->https://www.facebook.com/harrypotsize/

Gl at the tables!
Sounds like some start, crazy. Well done! Good luck to you, I will definately check in on your blog. Hopefully we'll meet at the tables in he future!
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11-18-2016 , 10:46 AM
Soooo, the challenge is officially completed. It took longer than I expected, but I've had other things to take care of, and also when you run as bad as I've done the motivation is not always on top. That being said, I'm really proud that I managed to finished the challenge in the greens EV-wise, which I consider to be the relevant number here, and that also makes the challenge successful regarding beating the stakes. The run-bad (was about 120BI under EV at worst) could easily have taken the better out of me, but I managed to stay away from tilting too much, which was key to successfully completing the challenge. I did tilt a bit around the 40k mark though, had a huge impact on the final result, but at least got myself together and managed to turn the boat around.

Big thanks to everyone who has read/commented in this thread. Even though there wasn't very many, it was definately motivating. Thank you! Also I managed to prove that the rake is still beatable in the PLOz microstakes and profit is still possible even for someone who's pretty unexperienced in Omaha like myself over a fair enough samplesize. This was the ultimate goal of the challenge.


Challenge total:

Hands: 100 792
Net Won: -304,43$
All-In EV: 160,50$

Net Won Including Rakeback: -166,87$
All-In EV Including Rakeback: 298,06$

My final winrate is about 2,5bb/100 EV, and about 5bb/100 including rakeback (Mostly Silverstar and a little Goldstar). Not bad for a beginner! About 90k of the hands were played at PLO5z, 2k at PLO2z, and 8k at PLO10z.

Good luck with the grinding everyone, thanks for reading!

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