Regarding this hand, I think once I 3bet the flop UTG probably goes AA+, even AA with huge icm is ****ing disgusting.

The guy SNAP raised the flop, think he is trying to rep AA with most likely suited broadways, so I am pretty sure he wont have AA here, anyway, having A is obviously great. i also have a Tc so 1) Random jtcc that can jam over my raise or 2) I can turn equity if he flats.

Is he really flatting TT/JJ pre as the short stack with 20bbs? I doubt it, is he ever flatting 33/44? Never. 99? Again, doubt it, if he is,he's never min raising flop like this lol.

I risk 5.4m to win 10+ million, think its very sexy and will get a lot of folds, if its unsuccessful, my stack isn't really effected. Also the chip leader is a huge fish, so wanted to show him this hand and then in the future get huge value with very big hand vs him as we were relatively deep, basically fish never finds a close hero fold vs me in the future, and the way the stacks were designed here I have to play tight moving forward, so having a very loose image whilst playing tight is good. It's like I'm a Swedish reg

Yea i know this buddy that math wise iscall, but with your stack and other 2 players left (unknowns) and your skill edge you have imo its really bad spot to call of there when you have position on best player on the table ( and i think you have skill edge vs him 20-30bb deep) and two unknowns which are probaly scared money too, not to mention pay jumps ( i mean where you will find in that spot again to play for that much money 4 way vs 2 weaker plaers and position vs one of the GOAT, who was pretty much handcuft and played tight cos stack distribution and his position, i think you got that timex thing going on again here yolo )
Will be very much epic if u win it, even more if yo get hu with Phil and beat him, you were in good spot to acomplish that, anyway gg great achievement wonder will you get #1 Wednesday

0.53 is really really big edge that we can never pass and like I said, 3 handed with galfond out my edge is going to be way bigger than 4 handed with galfond getting heads up very frequently.

yes, lol_everyone

ggggs bossman

Haha thanks mate

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WP Oscar

You don't have much of a skill edge if your passing up calls like this.

CL was anything but scared money and the other guy wasn't really either. Not saying they were good but guy in 3rd agreed to numbers then fistpump snapped a9o in over a button open for a bit over 20bb iirc.

Doesnt +0.53 means you are winning half big blind on a call or i am way off here???
If that is true, the isue i have with that call off is
-First we are not sure that phill is shoving that wide ( i gues he should be but we never know for sure because from x reasons he might think that he dont need to shove super wide there and the tighten up his ranges a bit, plus we never onow what part of his range we run into so i prefer to make asumption in this kind of spot, that you get it less the 10-20 times in your online poker career and i do not think that you should play nash there all the time if ever, that he is a bit tighter then a bit looser till proved wrong and adaped my ranges accordingly )
-Second even if he is wide enogh imo its not like we are crushing his range that much, cos imo i will assume that he has most of the time Ax, small pp, and with hero stack is not like we must call off, and play NASH when imo we can past and continue playing and have more edge when we are puting presure that has also FEQ on our side and make people to make decision to call off and doble you up, or fold an wait better hand and exploit them that way)
And finaly and most important imo is icm and how often you find yourself in that spot to play for that kind of money with that stack vs those kind of players. Dont get me wrong here, I am not arguing that call is not profitable or anything in that context, just my opinion is that with that field left and that stack and in that situation am prety sure you will find better and more profitable spot to get your stack in (btw too bad for you that you mised the world after that flop :-( )
I agree that your edge 3 handed with phill out will be biger then continuing and geting hu with phil, but if u get hu you will win around 100k more

And btw i never understand why this calculations are making KQs beter then A9o is we make asumtion that he is not not open shoving smth like TT(JJ)+/AQ(AK)+, and his range is smth like A2-AJ, 22-99, face cards and Kx,Qx Jxs and some other suted gapers stuff

@demonic i looked at their stats and see that they are plaing lower avg bi and think that money will matter for them, and as far as i remember guy shove with A9 over CL open after CL told him to click btn to deal (i think is standard spot to shove over loose open in that spot with that stack sizes and that hand) he never call off (actualy if i remember good he tank for ever and finaly call with 6-7bb vs pads SB shove when next oponent think had doble of his stack)

0.53 Bb's per hand, is a 53bb/100 edge.

It is not 0.53 BB, but 0.53% of the prizepool. The calculation already takes ICM into consideration.

That should end the discussion^^

imo both arguments are really valid, but I think having the opportunity to ko the marginally 2nd strongest player at the table, to go 3 handed up against 2 fish with a decent stack, to try and get a score that was 3x the 4th place cash, pips it for me. Definitely a tough spot that required a lot of thought.

Huge congrats once again pads. I never thought you'd out do Feb'14 as your best month ever but fair play you did it, and to think that's without all the scoops your boys achieved too. You must be one proud mutha****a right now

bitb girraffe for wcoop with you and the guys in the bet to ,should be pretty sick i assume

what was your edge over the field at this point? I mean maybe you have all valid points for playing this hand the way you did but its a high variance line so if you feel you have a big edge over the field maybe you should avoid this

That's like a catch22, moves like that is WHY he has such a big edge on the field.

Yea, but is one hand, one spot, and you not gona find yourself in even close to like 30 spots like that life time, not to mention hom much spots like that you need to realize your eq considered standard variance

Imo u call here and only way not to bust is to have best hand after river, while when you shove over open, or open shove and you realize same or biger bb/100 edge with less variance (they fold pre or u have best hand after river)

I am not arguing that this is not profitable play in vacum and gto probably snap call idk, i am just saying that on ft in big mtts you get in yourself in such unique spots that you probaly never will be again and how you run in that spot may have influence on your whole career

For ex if Cheong hit A here https://youtu.be/29a6Lo9mGok he will be probably champ, or if he wont go crazy he has 2 place locked and think he had skill edge over both players left and reasonable chances to win it... and he will never get in same spot aggain

wow pads amazing results!

Why phil can't have a raising range in that spot? He prolly doesn't feel any icm pressure. He might not be shoving JJ+ at least so he is raise folding some right?

Very interesting AT hand, sick play! I do understand what he prolly doesn't have in his range but what could be his minraising flop range?

I'm not sure how much input you have at Party, but this was just posted in several threads by a party rep:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=28825


Collection of hhs has been the only way that players were able to discover bots rings, several of which have been on Party. In 2012-2014, 3 of the biggest winners at 5/10 were bots. What's the goal in making cash game hand histories anon? To prevent datamining? Datamining can help a player become better, but not any more than a training site can. Also, the benefit of datamining is drastically reduced if games are made anon to begin with. So if party is trying to protect their players from predatory behaviour, why not make the games themselves anon? Seat scripts are instantly rendered useless and huds lose most of their benefit. I don't even play at party, so it doesn't directly affect me but I think it's just a very poor decision in which you might be able to consult with them.

It's only an edge if you're willing to utilise it

IIRC there was this promotion from Full Tilt - "If you qualify through FTP and win, we pay you 10M extra!"

So for Cheong payouts were 18.9m/5.5m/4.1m and with that kind of top heavy structure it makes more sense to play only for the first place.

Not saying it was perfect spot or anything like that, but just that payout structure for Cheong was singificantly different.

Will do a write up of WCOOP today, have just been finalising plans for the next few months until the end of the year. Plan looks something like:

Malta - EPT 18-29 October

18th 10k 8m highroller
19th 10k 8m high roller day 2 (reentry)
21st 25k high roller 8m (reentry)
22nd IPT 2K hr
23rd EPT Main
24th 10K 8max 1 day hr (reentry)
24th 2k turbo
25th 2k fo
26th 5k hyper
27th 10k hr
28th 10k hr reemtru
28th 2k hyper
29th 10k turbo bounty
29th 2k turbo 6m
29th 5k turbo 6m

WPT Nottingham 31 October- November 6

31st 5K devilfish cup
1st 5k devilfish cup reentry
1st 10k WPT highroller
2nd 10k WPT high roller day reentry
2nd WPT Main event day 1a (reentry)
3rd WPT Main event day 1b (reentry)
4th WPT Main event day 2 (enter day 2)

Kings Casino WSOPc 9th - 11th November

9th November 8.8k super high roller (reentry)
10th 5300 highroller (reentry)
11th Main event 1650 (reentry)
12th Main event day 1b 1650 (reentry)

WPT Punta Cana 18-26th November

19th WPT Day 1a $5k (reentry)
20th WPT Day 1b $5k (reentry)
21st Party Poker Day 1a $2750 (reentry)
22nd Party Poker Day 1b $2750 (reentry)
23rd Party Poker Day 2 $2750 (dbi)
24th WPT HR $10,000
25th WPT Super high Roller $25,000


December Prague 3-18th December

3rd WPT main 3300
4th WPT main 3300
5th WPT main 3300
7th 10k highroller EPT
8th 10k highroller EPT (Reentry/)
10th 50k super high roller
11th 2k high roller
12th 5k main
13th 25k one day high roller
14th 2k freeze out
16th 10k highroller
17th 10k highroller
18th 10K turbo bounty
18th 2k turbo 6m
18th 5k 6m


Pretty exciting times, in before busto? Should be a fun journey for you guys to follow, obviously with this much live poker theres going to hopefully be some very big ups and very likely some very big downs! So sorry in advance for any unnecesary moaning. I've said it a few times that I really think I'm a stronger live than online player, not sure if this is just delusion that all players have, but most of my friends think the opposite about themselves. I'm sure I'm going to learn a lot about myself over these few months and will likely look back at today and be like LOLlivepokerplayer.

exciting schedule, sure youll bink. glgl

Goddamit, that´s a lot of tournaments
You´ll do just fine, i´m sure #LOLlivepokerplayers #neverlucky

wowee - looks like about $370k of entries.

am sure you're taking different % of yourself for different events, but do you know/can you thumb in the air the total % you'll likely have of yourself in it's entirety?

good luck - bring home a title please