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03-11-2017 , 09:38 PM
Are you DonkeyKong12 on ACR?
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03-12-2017 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Whazez
I'm confused are you down money?
On ACR I'm down money. On Ignition I'm up money. I might make a more in-depth post summarizing my results.
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03-12-2017 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mojo6911
Are you DonkeyKong12 on ACR?
DonkeyKongEK
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03-13-2017 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyKongMK
DonkeyKongEK
OK, I haven't seen you.
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03-13-2017 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mojo6911
OK, I haven't seen you.
Yeah I haven't been playing as much on ACR recently. Been playing mostly on Ignition.
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03-13-2017 , 07:20 AM
Stick with what works, bro! Btw, if you're any good at PLO, check those games out on ACR. Loads of fun.
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03-13-2017 , 10:07 AM
Ignition 10NL 5K Hands

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03-13-2017 , 10:47 AM
You need to find your leak on 2NL. Don't waste this opportunity...

There's clearly something wrong, and you are going to carry it on all levels on any operator if you don't find it. Any edge/leak is important to explore.
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03-13-2017 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by alfa3ET
You need to find your leak on 2NL. Don't waste this opportunity...

There's clearly something wrong, and you are going to carry it on all levels on any operator if you don't find it. Any edge/leak is important to explore.
I agree. While your redline is supposed to be negative at 6max micros, yours is diving off a cliff. You are probably too sticky on the flop and turn, and give up on a lot of rivers. I would filter hands where you called flop, called turn, and folded river.
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03-14-2017 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mojo6911
I agree. While your redline is supposed to be negative at 6max micros, yours is diving off a cliff. You are probably too sticky on the flop and turn, and give up on a lot of rivers. I would filter hands where you called flop, called turn, and folded river.
Yeah I need to fold more flops + turns.

My point is this. If there is no noticeable skill gap between 2NL and 5NL, what's the point of starting at 2NL in the first place?
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03-14-2017 , 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Flpmethntsdlr
Stick with what works, bro! Btw, if you're any good at PLO, check those games out on ACR. Loads of fun.
I actually thought about getting into PLO after I get a good sample at 25NL but not sure yet.
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03-14-2017 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyKongMK
Yeah I need to fold more flops + turns.

My point is this. If there is no noticeable skill gap between 2NL and 5NL, what's the point of starting at 2NL in the first place?
It doesn't really matter 2NL or 5NL, but if you are losing on 2NL, stick to it and learn how to beat them.

I saw some people telling you to stick to where you win, but I would do the opposite here. Stick to where you lose. Your goal should be learning on micro stakes.
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03-14-2017 , 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mojo6911
I agree. While your redline is supposed to be negative at 6max micros, yours is diving off a cliff. You are probably too sticky on the flop and turn, and give up on a lot of rivers. I would filter hands where you called flop, called turn, and folded river.
Lightbulbs .
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03-14-2017 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyKongMK
Yeah I need to fold more flops + turns.

My point is this. If there is no noticeable skill gap between 2NL and 5NL, what's the point of starting at 2NL in the first place?
That's not really what I mean. It is often correct to float the flop, and some turns. Filter where hands where you called flop and turn, and folded river, and look to see if you are spots where you could play different. Look for spots where you could raise flop and go for 3 streets of semibluff. Look for turns you could raise. Look at spots where you could lead rivers to take down hands.


Watch this Matthew Janda video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB6ht1iPtPA
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03-17-2017 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mojo6911
That's not really what I mean. It is often correct to float the flop, and some turns. Filter where hands where you called flop and turn, and folded river, and look to see if you are spots where you could play different. Look for spots where you could raise flop and go for 3 streets of semibluff. Look for turns you could raise. Look at spots where you could lead rivers to take down hands.


Watch this Matthew Janda video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB6ht1iPtPA
Thanks for this post. It really pinpointed the things I need to work on and how to approach my flop play. Yeah I gotta start doing some db analysis in PT4 as well as some in-depth HH analysis. I watched the video and really enjoyed it. I'm gonna rewatch it again this weekend. I've been meaning to get his book and finally ordered it.
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03-17-2017 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyKongMK


Thanks for this post. It really pinpointed the things I need to work on and how to approach my flop play. Yeah I gotta start doing some db analysis in PT4 as well as some in-depth HH analysis. I watched the video and really enjoyed it. I'm gonna rewatch it again this weekend. I've been meaning to get his book and finally ordered it.
Skip the preflop part of the book. Even the author says it's flawed.
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03-20-2017 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mojo6911
Skip the preflop part of the book. Even the author says it's flawed.
I'll take note of this. Is there any specific reason why he says it's flawed?
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03-21-2017 , 06:37 AM
This is my first hand analysis so I don't expect it to be perfect, or good for that matter. Also, I'm still learning and by doing these I feel like I'll become a better player. I'd appreciate any feedback/criticism especially if something I say or do is wrong.

Hand History Analysis 1: River Decision with AA

iPoker - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 139 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 24.44, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 46)
BB: 89.3 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 109 BB (VPIP: 19.51, PFR: 9.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
Hero (BTN): 248.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, SB calls 1.5 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 3 players) 5 2 J
SB bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, SB calls 10 BB, fold

Turn: (35 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 18.5 BB, SB calls 18.5 BB

River: (72 BB, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero bets 31 BB, SB raises to 105.5 BB, Hero calls 74.5 BB

Spoiler:
SB shows 6 2 (Flush, Jack High)
(Pre 18%, Flop 23%, Turn 23%)
Hero mucks A A (Two Pair, Aces and Fives)
(Pre 82%, Flop 77%, Turn 77%)
SB wins 268.9 BB



River Required Equity:
(74.5)/(268.9) = 27.71%

A simple required equity calculation shows that we need to be good about 27.71% of the time to make this call. So the question becomes do we have at least 27.71% equity against V's polarized range?

The first thing I think about is what is the probability that V is completely bluffing. I usually draw this conclusion based on my HUD stats and V is playing 67/24 with a Total AF of 3.14 over 46 hands. (I know the sample is extremely small but I'd say it's something of worth.) So this player is much more likely to bluff than someone with a Total AF under 1.00 but with a small sample it's tough to add too much weight to this. On the other hand, the gap between VPIP and PFR shows that V is somewhat passive preflop, which can decrease V's bluffing frequency. I know it sounds like I'm contradicting myself but these are just the thoughts I think about when I'm trying to figure out the chances my opponent is bluffing.

Other things to note:
V is never value betting worse as Jx hands should almost always call this river.
AA is one of our best hands we have when we get to the river.


Flopzilla:



I ran this hand in Flopzilla, but had a tough time getting anything out of it cause I'm such a noob at using it. I assigned Villian a small bluffing range on the river of 14 combos of A4 and A3 that were gut shots on the flop and 11 combos of 2x hands that are weak pairs. If we add in these bluffs, our hand has about 24.27% equity (assuming I interpreted the results correctly). I also did not add any combos of flush draws as bluffs because I could not figure out how to add them in Flopzilla.
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03-22-2017 , 06:00 AM
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Rough results so far at 10NL. I've worked on incorporating more bluff raises in my range post-flop but I honestly need more work. I need to work on which hands I should bluff raise vs fold. It feels like I've been experimenting more than anything (at some spots overbluffing) and this had led to poor results. I also think I've made some poor river decisions especially against the 10NL population where it's less likely players are bluffing when the action goes bet/bet/bet.
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03-23-2017 , 03:04 PM
ACR Update

I've decided I'm going to start fresh and redo the 25K hands at 2NL on ACR. I'm going to start it April 1st so I have a beginning day. This will also prevent me from having a biased sample as I plan on playing a bit before then. In the meantime, I'm going to focus on getting more volume in on Ignition and some more studying. I plan to be at somewhere around 25K hands before April 1st, and at 25NL in a couple months.
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03-23-2017 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyKongMK
This is my first hand analysis so I don't expect it to be perfect, or good for that matter. Also, I'm still learning and by doing these I feel like I'll become a better player. I'd appreciate any feedback/criticism especially if something I say or do is wrong.

Hand History Analysis 1: River Decision with AA

iPoker - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 139 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 24.44, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 46)
BB: 89.3 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 109 BB (VPIP: 19.51, PFR: 9.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
Hero (BTN): 248.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, SB calls 1.5 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 3 players) 5 2 J
SB bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, SB calls 10 BB, fold

Turn: (35 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 18.5 BB, SB calls 18.5 BB

River: (72 BB, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero bets 31 BB, SB raises to 105.5 BB, Hero calls 74.5 BB

Spoiler:
SB shows 6 2 (Flush, Jack High)
(Pre 18%, Flop 23%, Turn 23%)
Hero mucks A A (Two Pair, Aces and Fives)
(Pre 82%, Flop 77%, Turn 77%)
SB wins 268.9 BB



River Required Equity:
(74.5)/(268.9) = 27.71%

A simple required equity calculation shows that we need to be good about 27.71% of the time to make this call. So the question becomes do we have at least 27.71% equity against V's polarized range?

The first thing I think about is what is the probability that V is completely bluffing. I usually draw this conclusion based on my HUD stats and V is playing 67/24 with a Total AF of 3.14 over 46 hands. (I know the sample is extremely small but I'd say it's something of worth.) So this player is much more likely to bluff than someone with a Total AF under 1.00 but with a small sample it's tough to add too much weight to this. On the other hand, the gap between VPIP and PFR shows that V is somewhat passive preflop, which can decrease V's bluffing frequency. I know it sounds like I'm contradicting myself but these are just the thoughts I think about when I'm trying to figure out the chances my opponent is bluffing.

Other things to note:
V is never value betting worse as Jx hands should almost always call this river.
AA is one of our best hands we have when we get to the river.


Flopzilla:



I ran this hand in Flopzilla, but had a tough time getting anything out of it cause I'm such a noob at using it. I assigned Villian a small bluffing range on the river of 14 combos of A4 and A3 that were gut shots on the flop and 11 combos of 2x hands that are weak pairs. If we add in these bluffs, our hand has about 24.27% equity (assuming I interpreted the results correctly). I also did not add any combos of flush draws as bluffs because I could not figure out how to add them in Flopzilla.
I don't think most V's bluff raise river. Without the Ah consider x back and bet a little more ott.
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03-23-2017 , 10:11 PM
How do you change the screen name to hero?

Nice graphs and gl!
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03-23-2017 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Flpmethntsdlr
I don't think most V's bluff raise river. Without the Ah consider x back and bet a little more ott.
I think you're right man. I should just x/fold in those spots.

Last edited by DonkeyKongMK; 03-24-2017 at 12:00 AM.
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03-23-2017 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by urBlindsOrurLife
How do you change the screen name to hero?

Nice graphs and gl!
Thanks! And Hero is my default name because I play on Ignition where you don't have SNs.
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03-25-2017 , 07:12 AM
Ignition 10NL 15K Hands

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