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03-17-2011 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mtagliaf
I would like to point out that the running quads hand #2 in post #1233 made me throw up in my mouth a little bit. Nothing like being a 99.848% favorite on the flop and losing.


Lies, lies, lies!!!
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03-17-2011 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 300zxrider
Hey Verneer, I'm trying to improve my W$WSF. It's usually around 39% for me but recently I have gotten it up to ~43% over a small sample size by check/raising, raising cbets more often and increasing my double barreling frequency. Is this good for 6-max or should I be looking to improve it some more?

Also, as I increase my W$WSF by being more aggressive should I expect my W$SD% and/or my WTSD% to decrease?


Thanks for any help
I'm not the right person to ask this - my W$WSF is not very good. I will say that it's a mixture of tight preflop + aggro postflop.
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03-17-2011 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mtagliaf
I would like to point out that the running quads hand #2 in post #1233 made me throw up in my mouth a little bit. Nothing like being a 99.848% favorite on the flop and losing.
Not running quads, it was set over set. So he has a ~5% chance of winning?
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03-17-2011 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by verneer


Lies, lies, lies!!!
I had one just like that; don't have the HEM on this computer to print the image.

I had AK and the flop was AAK. Villain won with QQ. So that is basically 1 in 1000 to win.

Anyways, this villain seems worse than yours :P
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03-18-2011 , 12:59 PM
Verneer I play on pokerstars exclusively but I decided to play rush poker yesterday to change things up. I was -10 buy-ins below ev through ~5,000 hands. FTP rigged? lol
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03-18-2011 , 02:08 PM
^^stay away from rush, no money, every1s salad
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03-18-2011 , 02:45 PM
Villain was 24/19. Not a good session right now ...

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: $100.00
UTG: $40.00
UTG+1: $104.40
UTG+2: $185.30
Hero (MP1): $100.50
MP2: $62.85
CO: $67.80
BTN: $172.30
SB: $270.55

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP1 with Q Q
3 folds, Hero raises to $3, 4 folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) Q 7 9 (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero raises to $14, BB calls $9

Turn: ($34.50) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB raises to $83 all in, Hero calls $68

River: ($200.50) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $200.50
BB shows 9 9 (four of a kind, Nines)
Hero shows Q Q (a full house, Queens full of Nines)
BB wins $197.50
(Rake: $3.00)
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03-18-2011 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by verneer
Villain was 24/19. Not a good session right now ...

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: $100.00
UTG: $40.00
UTG+1: $104.40
UTG+2: $185.30
Hero (MP1): $100.50
MP2: $62.85
CO: $67.80
BTN: $172.30
SB: $270.55

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP1 with Q Q
3 folds, Hero raises to $3, 4 folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) Q 7 9 (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero raises to $14, BB calls $9

Turn: ($34.50) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB raises to $83 all in, Hero calls $68

River: ($200.50) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $200.50
BB shows 9 9 (four of a kind, Nines)
Hero shows Q Q (a full house, Queens full of Nines)
BB wins $197.50
(Rake: $3.00)
That was a disturbing hand..
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03-18-2011 , 03:29 PM
Well ... this helps (+$200):

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $111.25
SB: $101.50
BB: $52.45
UTG: $65.25
UTG+1: $146.65
UTG+2: $33.00
MP1: $100.00
MP2: $100.00
CO: $101.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 9 T
5 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero calls $2, SB raises to $10, 1 fold, CO calls $8, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($31.00) 9 2 9 (3 players)
SB bets $20, CO calls $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($91.00) 3 (3 players)
SB bets $71.50 all in, CO calls $71 all in, Hero calls $71.50

River: ($305.00) 7 (3 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $305.00
Hero shows 9s Ts (three of a kind, Nines)
SB shows As Ah (two pair, Aces and Nines)
CO shows Ks Kd (two pair, Kings and Nines)
Hero wins $1.00
Hero wins $301.00
(Rake: $3.00)
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03-18-2011 , 04:57 PM
Finally!

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: $35.60
UTG: $342.10
UTG+1: $102.10
UTG+2: $77.40
Hero (MP1): $303.35
MP2: $102.20
CO: $55.00
BTN: $113.70
SB: $422.65

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP1 with T T
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, 5 folds

Flop: ($7.50) T J 5 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $4, UTG+1 raises to $12, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($31.50) 2 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $20, Hero calls $20

River: ($71.50) T (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $34, Hero raises to $68, UTG+1 calls $33.10 all in

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $205.70
UTG+1 mucks Jd Jh
Hero shows Tc Th (four of a kind, Tens)
Hero wins $202.70
(Rake: $3.00)
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03-18-2011 , 05:08 PM
Lol NH, verneer could you upload your HUD file? Would be supernice!
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03-18-2011 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by verneer
Finally!

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: $35.60
UTG: $342.10
UTG+1: $102.10
UTG+2: $77.40
Hero (MP1): $303.35
MP2: $102.20
CO: $55.00
BTN: $113.70
SB: $422.65

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP1 with T T
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, 5 folds

Flop: ($7.50) T J 5 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $4, UTG+1 raises to $12, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($31.50) 2 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $20, Hero calls $20

River: ($71.50) T (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $34, Hero raises to $68, UTG+1 calls $33.10 all in

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $205.70
UTG+1 mucks Jd Jh
Hero shows Tc Th (four of a kind, Tens)
Hero wins $202.70
(Rake: $3.00)
LOL, nice! I was reading through this thinking "UTG+1 has top set! UTG+1 has top set!" Then I saw it didn't matter... Quad-mining FTW!
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03-20-2011 , 12:13 AM
Ok so I saw this thread when it first opened a few months ago. I have always wanted to move up in the limits but I would either cashout or stick to SNGs. I was a micro baller with a good winrate at 10nl over many hands. So after seeing you do this i get inspired i make 200 then something comes up and i cash out some here and there yada yada.. After my last cash out I cant do anything i still think I am an above average player at these limits (10nl Rush FR) the last week i have been on Spring break and i have been getting my grind on hardcore. But the coolers absolutly killed me I have never thought of online poker as rigged, well maybe when i was a noob starting out but that was because i sucked. When i transitioned to rush I began to understand the concepts that you have to fold big hands to aggression sometimes. This week HAS BEEN BRUTAL! I was at 10nl then dropped 4BI and moved to 5nl make 8BI andmoved back up after i got my rakeback yesterday. and i am getting crapped on again.

These hand pretty much describe how I am running both within 10 min of eachother... i am not the one to moan about running bad but these type of hands have been going on for this whole downswing.

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG magpul ($31.32)
UTG+1 TehGraduate ($10.19)
MP1 addiedawg ($1.63)
MP2 gnarkill4 ($13.17)
MP3 orgnzdchaos ($8.40)
CO EkaPi ($4.43)
BTN mops6 ($34.59)
SB Philhimself9 ($10)
BB That Guy Ted ($9.36)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) gnarkill4 is MP2 A A
3 folds, gnarkill4 raises to $0.40, 2 folds, mops6 calls $0.40, 2 folds

Flop: 3 3 3 ($0.95, 2 players)
gnarkill4 bets $0.40, mops6 calls $0.40

Turn: 4 ($1.75, 2 players)
gnarkill4 bets $1.75, mops6 calls $1.75

River: 9 ($5.25, 2 players)
gnarkill4 bets $5.25, mops6 goes all-in $32.04, gnarkill4 goes all-in $5.37

Final Pot: $47.91
gnarkill4 shows
A A
mops6 shows a full house, Fours full of Threes
4 4

mops6 wins $46.15 (net +$11.56)

gnarkill4 lost $13.17


then this happen and i was like schwinggggg on the flop...
$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Ultrasaur ($7.05)
UTG+1 maxpain271 ($5.58)
MP1 kicker 60 ($23.91)
MP2 dmir11 ($8.14)
MP3 Mithraell ($12.66)
CO thebtw ($2.91)
BTN gnarkill4 ($13.73)
SB rpmanso ($2.44)
BB mut101 ($14.17)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) gnarkill4 is BTN 6 6
2 folds, kicker 60 calls $0.10, 3 folds, gnarkill4 calls $0.10, rpmanso calls $0.05, mut101 raises to $0.50, kicker 60 calls $0.40, gnarkill4 calls $0.40, rpmanso folds

Flop: 6 3 2 ($1.60, 3 players)
mut101 bets $1.60, kicker 60 calls $1.60, gnarkill4 raises to $4, mut101 folds, kicker 60 calls $2.40

Turn: 8 ($11.20, 2 players)
kicker 60 checks, gnarkill4 goes all-in $9.23, kicker 60 calls $9.23

River: 7 ($29.66, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $29.66
kicker 60 shows a flush, Eight high
4 4
gnarkill4 shows three of a kind, Sixes
6 6

kicker 60 wins $27.69 (net +$13.96)

gnarkill4 lost $13.73
rpmanso lost $0.10
mut101 lost $2.10



sorry for ranting and raving but i felt like if anyone could make me feel a little better about my bad luck or words of inspiration it would be you.


PS my gf just left and I just got on for a little sesh until she called me when she gets home now i am in such a bad mood this convo is going to suck. Oh yea Im from GA too Cumming to be exact.


thanks,
Gnarkill
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03-21-2011 , 12:28 PM
what are the best posts to read from this year's and, in particular, last year's thread?
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03-21-2011 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by verneer
Well ... this helps (+$200):

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $111.25
SB: $101.50
BB: $52.45
UTG: $65.25
UTG+1: $146.65
UTG+2: $33.00
MP1: $100.00
MP2: $100.00
CO: $101.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 9 T
5 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero calls $2, SB raises to $10, 1 fold, CO calls $8, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($31.00) 9 2 9 (3 players)
SB bets $20, CO calls $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($91.00) 3 (3 players)
SB bets $71.50 all in, CO calls $71 all in, Hero calls $71.50

River: ($305.00) 7 (3 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $305.00
Hero shows 9s Ts (three of a kind, Nines)
SB shows As Ah (two pair, Aces and Nines)
CO shows Ks Kd (two pair, Kings and Nines)
Hero wins $1.00
Hero wins $301.00
(Rake: $3.00)
What a donk!
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03-21-2011 , 03:52 PM
If I could hit half the 1 outers you hit every week in a year I would be happy. mbn to get paid off when you hit something. I'm going to give up on 25NL and just start playing SNGs again.
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03-21-2011 , 04:46 PM
Hey Verneer, I have been following your thread here and watching your videos on CR. I have been giving 10nl FR rush a shot and have been pretty happy with my play but can't seem to make any money. I have attatched my graph, is it this common to run so far under EV or is this too small of a sample still?
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03-21-2011 , 05:25 PM
very common, keep grinding.
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03-21-2011 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by clownhair
Hey Verneer, I have been following your thread here and watching your videos on CR. I have been giving 10nl FR rush a shot and have been pretty happy with my play but can't seem to make any money. I have attatched my graph, is it this common to run so far under EV or is this too small of a sample still?
It's not common (but much worse runs have been def documented), but it seems like you have winning fundamentals, so like deathorglory0 said - keep at it and you'll turn it around.
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03-21-2011 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by clownhair
Hey Verneer, I have been following your thread here and watching your videos on CR. I have been giving 10nl FR rush a shot and have been pretty happy with my play but can't seem to make any money. I have attatched my graph, is it this common to run so far under EV or is this too small of a sample still?
very standard. so standard it doesnt even tilt me.

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03-21-2011 , 07:24 PM
Thanks man
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03-21-2011 , 07:57 PM
I played a bit of 10nl rush this week... soooo standard:
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03-21-2011 , 08:50 PM
Is there a reason why people seem to run so bad at Rush?
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03-21-2011 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mojo6911
Is there a reason why people seem to run so bad at Rush?
its rigged to generate more rake.
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03-21-2011 , 09:32 PM
Played around 7K hands today, lost around 3 BI's. Overall crappy day. Apparently I suck at bluffing.

#Rakebackpro
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