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Old 01-29-2014, 12:56 PM   #51
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Re: Moving up and grinding a decent roll on Bovada. Possibly future career?

If you can't find a job with reasonable hours in your area, think about expanding your job search and relocating if you have to. The odds are extremely slim that you will make as much with poker as you make with your job and I doubt you will ever end the day/week/month/year with absolutely no income working as an accountant, when this is entirely possible with poker. You say you have a sketchy work history but it will be even more sketchy if you have another long period where you aren't working as an accountant and potential future employers ask you what you've been doing. Saying "I played poker" is not what anyone will want to hear and will certainly make it even more difficult to get another accounting job.

Take Phil Ivey for example, most people consider him a poker god but he managed to lose over $3,000,000 over 80,000+ hands online last year.

I play on bovada too (mostly the $10-50 double up tourneys) and i'll occasionally try to win a satellite to the 100k, but it's tough since all the players are anonymous (at the tables on bovada you are assigned numbers 1-9 at 1 table and so on) so finding the fish is impossible. I actually think it's much easier to make money sports betting which is the main reason I signed up on bovada in the first place.
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Old 01-29-2014, 02:24 PM   #52
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If you can't find a job with reasonable hours in your area, think about expanding your job search and relocating if you have to. The odds are extremely slim that you will make as much with poker as you make with your job and I doubt you will ever end the day/week/month/year with absolutely no income working as an accountant, when this is entirely possible with poker. You say you have a sketchy work history but it will be even more sketchy if you have another long period where you aren't working as an accountant and potential future employers ask you what you've been doing. Saying "I played poker" is not what anyone will want to hear and will certainly make it even more difficult to get another accounting job.

Take Phil Ivey for example, most people consider him a poker god but he managed to lose over $3,000,000 over 80,000+ hands online last year.

I play on bovada too (mostly the $10-50 double up tourneys) and i'll occasionally try to win a satellite to the 100k, but it's tough since all the players are anonymous (at the tables on bovada you are assigned numbers 1-9 at 1 table and so on) so finding the fish is impossible. I actually think it's much easier to make money sports betting which is the main reason I signed up on bovada in the first place.
I do have an ok job, it pays decent. However, I feel it's way below what I'm capable of doing. Poker is a place where if you have the skill level to play at a certain stake level, you can do it without having anyone telling you. Obviously a job is contingent on someone thinking you can do it, poker isn't. That's the part that really appeals to me.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:11 PM   #53
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I do have an ok job, it pays decent. However, I feel it's way below what I'm capable of doing. Poker is a place where if you have the skill level to play at a certain stake level, you can do it without having anyone telling you. Obviously a job is contingent on someone thinking you can do it, poker isn't. That's the part that really appeals to me.
This is almost the exact reason I play poker. I hope to someday be able to proudly call myself a semipro mid- high stakes grinder.

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Old 01-30-2014, 10:11 PM   #54
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Studying and Improving is the key mate! Good Luck
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Old 01-31-2014, 01:49 AM   #55
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Sorry, I haven't played since last week. I had to work 85 hrs in 6 days. I get OT and DT pay though. I played tonight. I had KK busted by 85 suited on a Q85 board, should've folded post flop based on action.
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Old 02-03-2014, 12:13 AM   #56
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Jan 2014 graph. Not as much volume as I wanted.
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:35 AM   #57
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Re: Moving up and grinding a decent roll on Bovada. Possibly future career?

So I haven't been playing very much the last two weeks. Just been very busy with real life stuff and haven't had motivation to play. Played a 75 minute session today and 4 won buy ins.
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Old 04-08-2014, 05:39 PM   #58
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2 month update bump. So I haven't been playing at all until the past week. Just didn't have the motivation, until recently. I'm going to be making an effort to play more often, we'll see how it goes.
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Old 04-16-2014, 06:15 PM   #59
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So I played some 25 NL zone and won 3 buy ins in about 20 minutes. Flopped a bunch of sets and got full value each time. Run good is always nice, but the eventual downswing is coming.
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Old 04-26-2014, 03:44 AM   #60
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Ughh terrible day today. Basically lost a month's profit today and then some. Just ridic stuff hitting against me, trips, sets etc. Was supposed to last 10 minutes but ended up playing 3 hours trying to win back losses. FML Another prolonged break probably incoming.
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:41 PM   #61
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I played 50 NL on my br last night. Going to be aggressive in my br building. Trying to stay from those card sharks at zone. Was up 2 buy ins at one point and made some bad calls for 3/4 of a BI and lost a full BI when I had AA vs KK against a giant whale who was on a gigantic heater. I still won about half a buy in after my session.
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Old 05-01-2014, 01:15 PM   #62
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I won like 5 dollars last night, but I was very card dead and had to fold some good hands in tricky/aggro spots, so it felt like a win for me.
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Old 05-04-2014, 04:25 AM   #63
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Wow, even though I only won 15 dollars tonight, I felt like I played the best poker I've ever played. It started early with me losing 4.5 buy ins within an hour. I spent the next 3.5 hours winning that money back and ended a little up. Got into it early vs a reggy type player who was stealing often. It was a blind vs blind battle, I had A5 dd on the BB. Villain raises 3x I 3 bet villain calls. Flop comes KJx with 2 diamonds. I fire a cbet villain check calls, turn is a blank. I fire again, villain check calls. River is a blank, and I jam and villain calls with J10. That made me tilted. How can villain call me down light like that with no history?

Then things got worse as my premium non paired hands ie. AK AQ, KQ, we're all coming up empty. Even if I did hit, the idiots hit runner runner flush or hit 2 pair river calling me down with bottom pair. Just ridiculous stuff. I started tightening up and got paid a lot and my hands started to hold. I busted AA against a lagtard who was playing 90/70 in 10 hands. I had Q8 suited on BTN, lagtard was BB. I had just above a little over full stack 110 bbs or so. I 3x, villain 3 bet I call. flop comes Q x x rainbow. Villain pots it. I jam over the top. Villain calls with AA, obv i'm crushed, but an 8 hits on the river to win the pot. After all the bs I went through tonight, it was justice. Was a crazy session and also an important lesson, don't play tilted. It sucks now, but in the end keep playing your A game and the wins will start coming again.
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Old 05-06-2014, 01:35 AM   #64
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Well, the poker gods still hate me. Had Aces cracked 4 times, 3 times AI post flop and got runner runnered by air, and 2 flush draws hitting. I'm getting really frustrated at the frequency I have to check fold with AK,AQ, KQ when the flop is coordinated and wet. Ughh, just pisses me off to no end. Guess I'm dealing with entitlement tilt. Just need to keep playing my A game.
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Old 05-07-2014, 11:21 AM   #65
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Man, everyone 3 betted me a lot last night. Lost 35 bucks. The run bad can't last forever.
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Old 05-07-2014, 11:59 AM   #66
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Imo the difference between 25nl and 100nl on bovada is just that there are less random shoves/calls with crap. I'd say the regs at 100nl (other than the very rare good grinder) are fairly positionally aware, but seem to make some terrible call downs considering perceived ranges. They tend to be either aggrodonks with 3bp cbet stats like 90/80/80, or are standardly weak tight but play decent opening ranges. Playing ABC poker really is a winner in these games (even in passive 200nl lineups) but I'd recommend ramping up the aggression a bit because they adjust very poorly, 5bet shove AQo against my 1st 4bet from UTG ect..

If you beat 25nl for like 4bb+ and are serious about developing your game (and potentially relocating at some point) you could play 100nl. Not sure what the stars equivalent would be, but i've been playing 200-400nl on bovada and a friend of mine recommended that I only grind 100nl zoom/ table select 200nl reg tables (and said that would be tough).
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:18 PM   #67
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Stay away from Zone. The player pool is too small to have as big of an edge as you may suspect you would have on a bigger site like Stars with 600+ playing Zoom. On Bovada, it's the same 60 nits and a cpl fish playing. I had a hard time at Zone myself.

I switched to the regular tables and have been doing pretty well and was surprised by how fishy the games were. Give it a try. Playing some full ring can help reduce variance and ranges aren't as tight as you would expect because of how bad the fish are. I play Bovada too so if you ever wanna chat or go over hands just hmu via PM. GL.
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:57 PM   #68
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Imo the difference between 25nl and 100nl on bovada is just that there are less random shoves/calls with crap. I'd say the regs at 100nl (other than the very rare good grinder) are fairly positionally aware, but seem to make some terrible call downs considering perceived ranges. They tend to be either aggrodonks with 3bp cbet stats like 90/80/80, or are standardly weak tight but play decent opening ranges. Playing ABC poker really is a winner in these games (even in passive 200nl lineups) but I'd recommend ramping up the aggression a bit because they adjust very poorly, 5bet shove AQo against my 1st 4bet from UTG ect..

If you beat 25nl for like 4bb+ and are serious about developing your game (and potentially relocating at some point) you could play 100nl. Not sure what the stars equivalent would be, but i've been playing 200-400nl on bovada and a friend of mine recommended that I only grind 100nl zoom/ table select 200nl reg tables (and said that would be tough).
That's my goal, to move up stakes on Bovada, My br is at 870 and i'm playing 50 NL. Will move up to 100 when I hit 1300. Obv as I move up the fish won't be as bad.

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Stay away from Zone. The player pool is too small to have as big of an edge as you may suspect you would have on a bigger site like Stars with 600+ playing Zoom. On Bovada, it's the same 60 nits and a cpl fish playing. I had a hard time at Zone myself.

I switched to the regular tables and have been doing pretty well and was surprised by how fishy the games were. Give it a try. Playing some full ring can help reduce variance and ranges aren't as tight as you would expect because of how bad the fish are. I play Bovada too so if you ever wanna chat or go over hands just hmu via PM. GL.
Playing FR isn't a bad idea, I do a lot of set mining in 6 max, I would think FR I'd get paid more often, but also run into more coolers. Yea I haven't played zone since playing regular tables.
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:21 AM   #69
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Been working OT at work the past few days thus didn't have a chance to play when I got home. Played today and won almost 3 BI's. I cracked KK when I had AQ when I thought the villain was squeezing. But I also lost out vs flush draws when I flopped sets so it all balances out in the end.
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Old 05-13-2014, 12:38 PM   #70
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Played a little last night. lost a little over a BI, a majority of it when I had Aces crack post flop on a J high flop vs KK. I also had 2 gigantic whales to my right on 2 of my tables, but couldn't get cards/take advantage of the situation.
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Old 05-13-2014, 01:58 PM   #71
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I play cash on bovada as well. Currently at 25/50nl so I'm sure we've played some together! Good luck with your goals!

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Old 05-14-2014, 01:14 AM   #72
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I play cash on bovada as well. Currently at 25/50nl so I'm sure we've played some together! Good luck with your goals!

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Thank you appreciate it. Hopefully we don't run into each other at the tables.

Won a little over 3 BI's tonight. Ran pretty hot and my hands finally held. I would've won more but apparently flush draws are a 50/50 proposition for my opponents. I had a guy that played Kings very poorly against me. I was BTN with AKo. CO raises 3 bb, I 3 bet to 10 bb, SB calls with KK. everyone else folds. Flop comes T J x. sb checks, I cbet to rep AA/KK/QQ while having decent equity and using position. SB just flats. Turn is an Ace, SB checks, I fire again and SB open folds KK. I'm not sure if I would've folded if SB 4 bet pre, but IMO SB should be 4 betting everytime pre with KK.
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Old 05-15-2014, 11:20 AM   #73
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Nothing major to report, won about 20 bucks or so, couldn't get cards. I pulled off a triple barrel bluff that was pretty standard against villain type.

Villain was playing 55/36 over 20 hands or so. I had AQo in CO ~105 bb stack, villain was MP. Folds to Villain, villain raises 3x, I 3b to 10bbs, everyone folds, villain calls. Flop comes 9 7 4 rainbow. Villain check calls my c bet of 14 bbs. Turn is a 7, villain again check calls my c bet of 32 bbs. The river brings out a King. Villain checks, I jam my remaining stack. Villain tanks and folds. That King hits my range so hard and make villain fold better hands ie. random 9s, 66, 88, TT-QQ. I don't go for many triple barrel bluffs, but the way the hand played out with the river card, I had to go for it.

A friend discussing the hand with me said that villain probably had an over pair. I countered that the way villain plays, I think villain had a random 9, due to villain check calling 2 streets. If villain had an overpair, very likely villain would check raise the flop or turn to get the money in.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:13 AM   #74
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Won a bit less than 2 BI's tonight 85 bucks or so. I seem to attract an Ace on the flop whenever I have JJ-KK. It's hard to cbet with them when an Ace appears and the fish can't fold an ace preflop.
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Old 05-16-2014, 11:30 AM   #75
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I had an interesting hand that played out last night. I have 56o on the button, UTG limps, I limp behind. The blinds join in as well. Flop comes A56 rainbow. SB donks out half pot, BB folds, UTG calls, I raise 3.5x the initial bet. SB calls, UTG folds. Now SB was a solid 21/15 ish type player and wasn't playing out of line, so SB's call was very interesting. Turn brings out a 10. SB checks, I bet out 2/3 pot, SB calls. River is a 3. SB overbet jams 44 dollars into a ~25 ish dollar pot. I tank for a good while, almost using up my entire timebank and folded. I felt this was a bluff with 78 for a missed draw, but of course SB can have almost anything. This type of hand shows the importance of raising, I most likely would've folded out 74,78, and ace raggish type hands had I raised pre flop. When limping you allow these type of situations. At first I was going after the UTG fish, but by limping it allowed the blinds to play cheaply their hands.
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