Can you go into more details on why you feel this way? What is your quality of life like? How many hours do you play a week? Online or live?

I plan on going pro in a year or two. For me its more about the freedom than the money.

Well, that specific stuff was aimed at The Stuntman. You might be a different case.

Ultimately if you're considering playing poker for a living, you should already be making enough to play for a living before you quit any job. If you can't do that, then quitting a job isn't going to help you make more $ in the game. It'll just add unnecessary stress and weaken your game. When I quit my last job I made... 5k or something the month I quit, had decent savings and was moving to Mexico.

Personally, I've lived in the Virgin Islands on a boat, Mexico, traveled all over, lived in various states, and generally worked 90hr/m for the last 7 years. But I don't know how much longer online poker is going to be able to viably support that lifestyle for people, with the advent of bots and all the other nonsense, that has me especially concerned for the future of the games.

That's what kinda scares me Malefiicus, especially playing live poker for a living. I'm confident I'd be a good player, but a prolonged run bad in live poker can really screw with my plans, even though it is highly unlikely. Which is why doing this for only a year while I transition into becoming a teacher seems like a good solid plan.

If you don't have a history of already playing live poker successfully over a significant number of hours, it makes no sense to try it out for a living. I have a buddy who moved to Vegas after black friday and tried out live poker, having already made a few 100k from online poker he thought he'd just crush it, I'm sure he made some money, but a little bit of variance for I don't remember how long, had him abandon that idea and get back online.

That's not to suggest live poker is hard, or that you'll run bad, just to say that it's a percentage chance. There is a reasonable %, above 20%, probably below 50%, that you would lose for your first few months. If you have more live experience, having won a decent amount over a reasonable number of hours, it's probably more like above 15%, below 25%. These are just approximations, obviously, but they should be somewhat reasonable if you plug a winrate into a variance calculator. Live is about 25h/hr, so at 120hr/m that's 3000 hands a month. Just check your graph for a 3000 hand sample.

In the year you'd like play 36k hands, assuming you still played online and didn't just play live poker. I'm sure if you look at your HM2 or PT3, you'll see how insignificant that is. If you really want to play live poker, you should be playing a bunch of it right now, and see how you do. That will tell you whether you should, or shouldn't do it. If you run good, you'll have more confidence and you'll be able to approach it from a much stronger standpoint. If not, then you will probably lose confidence and decide it's not a great idea, or continue playing till you win, then decide to take some time off.

Anyway, you can read more about live poker winrates and stuff in this thread. Going to play live poker for a living without having a decent winrate over a reasonable number of hours is just incredibly optimistic. With that said, sometimes just saying "I'm going to do this", and giving it your all works. That's how I got into poker, but that doesn't mean it's not a foolish way to approach playing for a living. Honestly, I'd be much less pessimistic about it if you said you were going to play online poker, since you already have a track record here over a significant number of hands.

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Well live does play differently and is considered softer. I've played live quite a bit, but definitely not enough to have a good amount of hands.

Live is absolutely softer, however, that doesn't mean that you'll make more at it. With some basic numbers, we can guess about 25h/hr live, 200 h/hr online (4 tabling bovada). If your winrate online is 5bb/100, then x8=40bb/100, which is basically unobtainable live outside of very fishy, or very deep games, it's not a sustainable winrate.

At the same time, I really don't like the negativity coming from me here. I want to encourage people to follow their dreams and do what they want. That's what I've always done, and I feel bad not doing that in this specific case.

You should really be grinding live during your off time, and recording your live results, if you want to transition to it. That's all. If you record your live results (in a phone app or whatever), then even if you have a tiny sample, you'll be approaching live poker in the manner which allows one to win. I have no doubt about your ability to beat live games, or online games, I just think you should slow down.

With that said, when I quit my job to play poker, they pulled some bull**** on my coworkers, and I bailed on the job to ruin their plans. If your job is really pissing you off, perhaps not suffering for a while in return for having a higher probability of initial poker pain is fine.

Malefiicus, I am not feeling any negatively but more of a voice of reason since you're living the lifestyle. It's not really a dream per se, but something I've been wanting to explore since I started playing poker seriously. I have very little desire to play for a living for a long period of time. I should play live more often, but it's often difficult to do so when working full time.

So I thought about this some more last night and I think I came up with somewhat of a middle ground. I'll keep my job but I'm gonna take time off every 2 months or so to do a poker trip/quick vacation on a weekend. If a Friday is slow, I'll probably take off early to hit up Bicycle or HG. I think this is a fair middle ground solution, work a little less and play a bit more and go on vacation.

Sounds good.

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So an update. I actually played online today. I played a session back in May and lost 300 bucks or so, but anyways. Today, I played a 9 man 10+1 sng and got 2nd while writing a paper for school. Bank roll is at $5,138.75.

Yes, as previously posted, I started school to get my teaching credential so I can hopefully teach mathematics at either a junior high or high school level within the next year or two. I'm very excited as hopefully I can start teaching and stop doing accounting. I took the first part of the CSET for mathematics about 3 weeks ago and I haven't received my results yet. Hopefully I can get it soon so I can start studying for the 2nd part of the exam as I wasn't confident if I passed the first part.

My birthday is next friday the 24th and i'll be turning 30. I hate the fact I'm getting older, as I still feel super young at heart and I definitely don't feel that I'm 30. When you get older, more is expected of you and more responsibilities are given and expected of you. At times, I feel I can't handle it, but well you never know until you try.

I also booked a Vegas trip for next month August 21-24. I'm going to try to play some poker in between as I've been very busy lately, but I want to get some hands in before I play at Vegas.

Start: 5138.75
End: 5233.75
Profit: 95

So I started playing these triple ups. I played 3 and cashed in two. I didn't play too much as I was writing papers and doing homework and studying.

Start: 5233.75
End: 5401.64
Profit: 167.89

0 for 1 on the triple or nothing SNG.

So I played some FR cash and 1 ToN sng while I studied, but played an hour before I stopped playing to concentrate on studying, because I got too distracted. If I cut down to 2 tables maybe I can manage better.

Start: 5401.64
End: 5496.64
Profit: 95

Was 2 for 2 on those triple up sngs 25+2.5 while doing homework. Not too shabby! Making some dough while doing homework and watching the Angels game.

Start: 5496.64
End: 5591.64
Profit: 95

Another 2 for 2 on those triple ups while doing class stuff.

Start: 5,591.64
End: 5,726.64
Profit: 135

Played 6 of those triple ups and won 4. Was doing homework and I was able to play more tables and a bit longer.

Start: 5726.64
End: 5691.64
Loss: (35)

Lost some key flips late, plus I was feeling sick. Today's my birthday, I'm 30 now. Scary.

Happy birthday bro

have read your thread not sure if ive ever commented in it but happy birthday

Thanks man!

Thank you! Feel free to post more often.

Went golfing and shot a lot better as my chipping game has really improved. Still need to take lessons though. About to play some and watch the UFC fights.

Start: 5691.64
End: 5717.46
Profit: 25.82
4 for 9 in triple up sngs.

My coughing and sore throat is getting worse. Managed to play 9 sngs and win 4, also played some cash but ran bad. Ran bad in the sngs too but oh well.

what limit for triple ups?

25+2.50, thinking of moving up or playing the turbos. The bubble play just takes so long.

Start: 5717.46
End: 5694.96
Loss: (22.5)

Ran into top of people ranges when I jammed so that sucked. Won 3 out of 9 so the loss was all rake.

Yesterday:
Start: 5694.96
End: 5679.96
Loss: (15)

2 for 6.

Today:
Start: 5679.96
End: 5739.96
Profit: 60

3 for 6 today. Should've been 5 for 6, but I ran absolutely horrid on the bubble.