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Moving up and grinding a decent roll on Bovada.  Possibly future career? Moving up and grinding a decent roll on Bovada.  Possibly future career?

11-24-2014 , 01:34 AM
Was hoping for a more interactive learning experience, but thank you for your kind offer.

Good luck on your goals, and I hope to meet you at the 100nl tables soon.
11-24-2014 , 12:22 PM
Sorry, I don't have too much time for that right now as I work full time and try to get as much playing in as possible. I barely get in 10-15 hrs week.
11-25-2014 , 02:06 AM
Start: 3933.03
End: 4150.66
Profit: 217.63

Man I had some juicy tables today. Session started out poorly when I had AKcc and ran into Aces. Need to fold AK when I get 4 bet outside of a resteal position. MNF brings out the whales who won their sports bet from the game
11-25-2014 , 06:23 PM
Sub. Keep up the good work.
11-25-2014 , 07:55 PM
U need to shot take 1/2 over holidays/weekend. Games will be super good with lots of sports betting fish,
11-26-2014 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by funinbed
Sub. Keep up the good work.
Thanks

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Originally Posted by LoudPacquiao
U need to shot take 1/2 over holidays/weekend. Games will be super good with lots of sports betting fish,
I was going to until tonight's session happened.

Start: 4150.66
End: 3789.16
Loss: (361.50)

Well I was due for a terrible session and I got one. Super LAG tard whales had the goods when I had something decent ie. AJss vs KK, KJ vs AA. Probably need to say to myself they're not 5 bet bluffing. Flopped a set but obv guy has a straight, calling stations calling with overs and backdooring flushes/straights. Murphy's Law session tonight. Unfortunately I had some juicy tables too. Hopefully, next session will go better.
11-26-2014 , 02:27 AM
OP, as someone strictly trying to improve their live cash game, do you suggest 6-max or 9max games?

I have been messing around with the double or nothings this month with some good success. I just am getting really bored of 4 tabling them and playing push/shove monkey poker. Considering moving to cash, even if it hurts my bankroll.

I prefer PLO but the NLHE games are just too juicy locally for me to consider playing PLO live.

Also, sorry to hear about the run-bad... today I lost 10 DoN's with QQ+ all ins on the bubble. Sucks..
11-26-2014 , 03:43 AM
Also stuntman, what is your opinion on Zone vs standard cash games? From what I've seen, the zone games are way tougher. 25NL plays at least twice as hard as 25NL full ring. Also you lose the ability to improve your reads in zone.
11-26-2014 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bm303
OP, as someone strictly trying to improve their live cash game, do you suggest 6-max or 9max games?

I have been messing around with the double or nothings this month with some good success. I just am getting really bored of 4 tabling them and playing push/shove monkey poker. Considering moving to cash, even if it hurts my bankroll.

I prefer PLO but the NLHE games are just too juicy locally for me to consider playing PLO live.

Also, sorry to hear about the run-bad... today I lost 10 DoN's with QQ+ all ins on the bubble. Sucks..
Check my thread out. FR confirmed soft and plays EXACTLY like live poker at casino.
11-26-2014 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bm303
OP, as someone strictly trying to improve their live cash game, do you suggest 6-max or 9max games?


I have been messing around with the double or nothings this month with some good success. I just am getting really bored of 4 tabling them and playing push/shove monkey poker. Considering moving to cash, even if it hurts my bankroll.

I prefer PLO but the NLHE games are just too juicy locally for me to consider playing PLO live.

Also, sorry to hear about the run-bad... today I lost 10 DoN's with QQ+ all ins on the bubble. Sucks..
If you want to improve your fundamentals, hand reading, and generally have a higher win rate, definitely 6 max is the way to go. If you want to improve on playing multiway pots play FR. Since most live cash games are FR, it's more difficult to isolate fish, thus if your main goal is to improve your live cash game, you should play FR cash online. Fish find it more comfortable to play in FR game for whatever reason.

I love playing PLO, absolutely love it, the main reasons I don't play it are variance and the rake at micros. You are never really more than a 65/35 favorite a majority of the time you get stacks in, as there are a lot more outs with good turn cards. If I wanted to play for fun, I'd play PLO way more often, but I play poker to mostly make money so I stick to holdem.

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Originally Posted by bm303
Also stuntman, what is your opinion on Zone vs standard cash games? From what I've seen, the zone games are way tougher. 25NL plays at least twice as hard as 25NL full ring. Also you lose the ability to improve your reads in zone.
I played zone for a bit early last month. I started hot but then cooled off considerably. It's very difficult for me personally as you're right it is readless. A great majority of my profit comes from whales/fish and adjusting. Without a regular table, it's hard to determine who is a fish or not. I suggest you stay away from zone.

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Originally Posted by LoudPacquiao
Check my thread out. FR confirmed soft and plays EXACTLY like live poker at casino.
I see VPIP's as high as 6 max games on FR games, which is why I was considering switching.
11-26-2014 , 01:31 PM
Yea the FR is soft. The reason is 50nl-200nl FR are games most rec players play at home games/casino. If u are building a roll DEF play it. Also u can play higher bc variance isn't as bad, so it's great when taking shots, as u are more likely to succeed.

But I am going back to 6max. If you are good your.edge is much greater in 6max. FR it's just.hard to isolate. Also since so many pots are 3-4 ways u really need hands and for turns and rivers to not poop on your hand. Being card dead in FR is tough bc game is so slow. The players are so bad, but the other 8 seats protect them, whereas 6 max there is little to no protection from being relentlessly isolated

But still, if u can beat casino games.the FR is just the same. BTW I'm talking 50-200nl. And it's a great spot to build a roll or take shots. But patience and position are paramount. Even more than 6max.
11-26-2014 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheStuntman
If you want to improve your fundamentals, hand reading, and generally have a higher win rate, definitely 6 max is the way to go. If you want to improve on playing multiway pots play FR. Since most live cash games are FR, it's more difficult to isolate fish, thus if your main goal is to improve your live cash game, you should play FR cash online. Fish find it more comfortable to play in FR game for whatever reason.

I love playing PLO, absolutely love it, the main reasons I don't play it are variance and the rake at micros. You are never really more than a 65/35 favorite a majority of the time you get stacks in, as there are a lot more outs with good turn cards. If I wanted to play for fun, I'd play PLO way more often, but I play poker to mostly make money so I stick to holdem.



I played zone for a bit early last month. I started hot but then cooled off considerably. It's very difficult for me personally as you're right it is readless. A great majority of my profit comes from whales/fish and adjusting. Without a regular table, it's hard to determine who is a fish or not. I suggest you stay away from zone.



I see VPIP's as high as 6 max games on FR games, which is why I was considering switching.
Good points Stuntman. I agree about PLO, you need patience and a nice roll to overcome the variance of flipping 60/40's all day.

I'm gonna stay away from zone for now, for the same reasons you mention.

The FR games I played briefly last night definitely reminded me of live poker. Limp fests, overvaluing top pair, etc.

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Originally Posted by LoudPacquiao
Yea the FR is soft. The reason is 50nl-200nl FR are games most rec players play at home games/casino. If u are building a roll DEF play it. Also u can play higher bc variance isn't as bad, so it's great when taking shots, as u are more likely to succeed.

But I am going back to 6max. If you are good your.edge is much greater in 6max. FR it's just.hard to isolate. Also since so many pots are 3-4 ways u really need hands and for turns and rivers to not poop on your hand. Being card dead in FR is tough bc game is so slow. The players are so bad, but the other 8 seats protect them, whereas 6 max there is little to no protection from being relentlessly isolated

But still, if u can beat casino games.the FR is just the same. BTW I'm talking 50-200nl. And it's a great spot to build a roll or take shots. But patience and position are paramount. Even more than 6max.
Good points. I played two tables of full ring 25NL last night on Bovada. It was very soft. Softer than 6max ring games and zone for sure. People calling to river for stacks with middle pair. Average VIPIP/PFR 60/5. Plays EXACTLY like low stakes live poker from what I saw. Almost no raising, lots of multi way pots and limping and overall people playing too many junk hands.
11-26-2014 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bm303

Good points. I played two tables of full ring 25NL last night on Bovada. It was very soft. Softer than 6max ring games and zone for sure. People calling to river for stacks with middle pair. Average VIPIP/PFR 60/5. Plays EXACTLY like low stakes live poker from what I saw. Almost no raising, lots of multi way pots and limping and overall people playing too many junk hands.
I came a little, might switch to FR now lol. Too many regs at 6 max.
11-27-2014 , 05:01 AM
Start: 3789.16
End: 3447.08
Loss: (342.08)

Damn another murphy's law session. Lost flips, couldn't get good value out of premiums due to terrible board runouts. People not folding and catching their overs/draws. Ughh. Last 2 days I lost all the profit from my last two weeks. Ughh, had some juicy tables too.
11-27-2014 , 04:13 PM
Dude you are up $1700 since start of month. Keep putting in volume and don't try to.chase "losses". We can't win all the time. Fish gotta eat 2

Seriously though. Don't let a little adversity mess up a good month. Keep it head clear of negativity
11-28-2014 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by LoudPacquiao
Dude you are up $1700 since start of month. Keep putting in volume and don't try to.chase "losses". We can't win all the time. Fish gotta eat 2

Seriously though. Don't let a little adversity mess up a good month. Keep it head clear of negativity
Agreed.

Curious, are you guys taking advantage of the 20% deposit bonus tomorrow? If you have the funds, is there any reason not to deposit $2,000 and get a free $400? You could even cash it out immediately after clearing the bonus.
11-29-2014 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by LoudPacquiao
Dude you are up $1700 since start of month. Keep putting in volume and don't try to.chase "losses". We can't win all the time. Fish gotta eat 2

Seriously though. Don't let a little adversity mess up a good month. Keep it head clear of negativity
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Originally Posted by bm303
Agreed.

Curious, are you guys taking advantage of the 20% deposit bonus tomorrow? If you have the funds, is there any reason not to deposit $2,000 and get a free $400? You could even cash it out immediately after clearing the bonus.

Yea, I feel like a baseball player just going through a slump. I'm not doing anything wrong and my approach hasn't changed, all I can do is play through it and it'll turn around. Poker is a variance heavy game at times, much like hitting in baseball.

I was going to deposit, but I was extremely busy today. Was a great offer by Bovada.

Start: 3447.08
End: 3612.25
Profit: 165.17

Good session, a bit over 2 hrs and had juicy tables. Unfortunately, I would've won more but they turned sets/two pair/trips on me :-\.
11-30-2014 , 02:18 AM
Start: 3612.25
End: 3607.24
Loss: (5.01)

Brutal start, donks hitting with stupid crap of course, battled back and broke even.
12-01-2014 , 02:02 AM
Start: 3607.24
End: 3784.30
Profit: 177.06

Session started off slow but slowly gained traction and won some good sized pots. Played for about 3 hrs. Also I hate AK, such a tough hand to play OOP and especially if you whiff the flop.
12-02-2014 , 01:59 AM
+25 cash bonus
Start: 3809.30
End: 3635.77
Loss: (173.53)

Sigh I run like s***. Had numerous good starting hands but obv I get outflopped or outdrawn. Started off super strong but the fishies hit flushes in 3 bet pots or won flips. Was also slightly tilted as well. Also need to stop getting into reg wars with people.
12-02-2014 , 06:44 PM
What do u use your poker points for? Have u ever played the 5k freeroll?
12-02-2014 , 07:20 PM
I haven't really used points yet. I played in 2 or 3 of the weekly 5k freeroll and got 4th. I don't really like playing tournaments.
12-03-2014 , 12:49 AM
Didn't play tonight as I had dinner with a friend, plus still tilted from last night's session so I thought a break was in order.

Anyways here's Nov's graph and details.

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Hourly was $33.79


Last edited by TheStuntman; 12-03-2014 at 01:07 AM.
12-03-2014 , 04:57 AM
Not a lot of volume but nice work

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12-03-2014 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lingerfelter95
Not a lot of volume but nice work

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Yea, it's hard for me to put in volume. I don't know how some people can play 100 hrs live a month with a full time job.

      
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