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07-10-2017 , 12:15 PM
also, should have my stars account back within the next couple of days so I'll be back in the mix.

Won't be playing any lower than 5/10 cos then I'd get low rake back.
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07-14-2017 , 11:52 PM
How are things going? Have you been playing elsewhere during your Stars break?
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07-15-2017 , 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by vengeful wriggle
also, should have my stars account back within the next couple of days so I'll be back in the mix.

Won't be playing any lower than 5/10 cos then I'd get low rake back.
what weak bait is this ****?
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07-18-2017 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by GeeTeeOhh
How are things going? Have you been playing elsewhere during your Stars break?
not played much, had a lot of irl things to do last week. did set up OBS for twitch streaming though, and um some other stuff im forgetting. In hindsight I should have waited a while to create this thread but doesn't really matter

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Originally Posted by CheekiBreeki
what weak bait is this ****?
welcome to the thread!

spent this morning getting my computer desk set up a bit:



ready to stream some mid stakes, will post a link when I do.

i was testing the pokeit twitch-chat integration yesterday as well as the visualization stream feature.

since my PS account is like super-duper verified now I might be able to increase my deposit limits and play a bit higher later on
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07-18-2017 , 11:00 AM
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $5/$10 - 5 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

andr31123 (UTG): $1,130.07 (113 bb)
DevolvedPlay (CO): $521.66 (52 bb)
zazano (BU): $1,000.00 (100 bb)
IsraMazeltov (SB): $2,058.20 (206 bb)
ttesone (BB): $1,159.43 (116 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($15) Hero (DevolvedPlay) is CO with Q A
1 fold, DevolvedPlay (CO) raises to $20, 2 players fold, ttesone (BB) calls $10

Flop: ($45) A 7 3 (2 players)
ttesone (BB) checks, DevolvedPlay (CO) bets $15.04, ttesone (BB) raises to $62.30, DevolvedPlay (CO) calls $47.26

Turn: ($169.60) 8 (2 players)
ttesone (BB) bets $99.95, DevolvedPlay (CO) calls $99.95

River: ($369.50) 9 (2 players)
ttesone (BB) bets $366.50, DevolvedPlay (CO) calls $339.41 (all-in)

Total pot: $1,048.32 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
ttesone (BB) shows T 2 (a flush, Ten high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 35%, Flop: 32%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%)

DevolvedPlay (CO) shows Q A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 65%, Flop: 68%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%)

ttesone (BB) wins $1,045.32
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07-19-2017 , 06:06 AM
^^feedback on that hand? I wasn't too happy calling river. I thought his exact sizing OTT might have been a slight tell of strength (i do that sometimes.. bet OTT such that I can shove ~pot OTR, and im prolly a bit unbalanced towards value in those spots) but figured that people probably balance that stuff pretty well at 5/10? so I think the river call is probably OK... hopefully

His call pre with T2s can't be standard right? He's hoping I spew to him? If so I think that means I might be able to overfold a little in spots like this one. (btw i hope ttesone doesn't have a 2p2 ..)

ty for any advices helps a lot
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07-19-2017 , 07:19 AM
if you have fishy/spewy image then your call is pretty bad as he wont ever bluff you and you dont beat value
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07-19-2017 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Vatroslav
if you have fishy/spewy image then your call is pretty bad as he wont ever bluff you and you dont beat value
I'm an unknown to ttesone (I only created my account this month, and stars had it locked most of that time until i fully verified it) so i think he would assume I'm a fish.

Is it standard to under-bluff unknown players until you have a bit of a read on them? If so I agree this is a clear fold

To be honest I probably should have figured that good players would under-bluff me here, I'm going to go ahead and call this a spewy play by me
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07-19-2017 , 11:42 AM
Loving the read man. Really inspiring. Especially since your so young

Have you had any extensive coaching? Or how did you reach to where youre at?

Any book/video tips etc that blew your mind?

Really appreciate it
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07-19-2017 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GeeTeeOhh
Loving the read man. Really inspiring. Especially since your so young

Have you had any extensive coaching? Or how did you reach to where youre at?

Any book/video tips etc that blew your mind?

Really appreciate it
First off: I don't think I can say I'm on the level of most 2/5+ regs yet seeing as I've only played ~4k hands at these stakes online. I am up in terms of BI over that sample, but I can tell I have a lot to learn

to answer your question: I've had no coaching. When I started out with NLHE I read a 2p2 book about LHE not realising that it was a different game to NLHE so that definitely didn't help out (lol). So after that I sort of stayed away from books with the exception of The Mathematics of Poker by Bill Chen and.. I forget the other guy. Mostly I just figured things out for myself and copied some things that I saw players do, anti-copied some others.



Here's a hand I played where I think we can do some pretty funky sizing OTT:

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $5/$10 - 5 players
Hand delivered by Pokeit

zazano (UTG): $1,020.00 (102 bb)
ttesone (CO): $2,134.43 (213 bb)
andr31123 (BU): $1,145.07 (115 bb)
DevolvedPlay (SB): $391.39 (39 bb)
TheWakko (BB): $1,000.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($15) Hero (DevolvedPlay) is SB with 4 A
3 players fold, DevolvedPlay (SB) raises to $27.60, TheWakko (BB) calls $17.60

Flop: ($55.20) 8 A T (2 players)
DevolvedPlay (SB) checks, TheWakko (BB) checks

Turn: ($55.20) A (2 players)
DevolvedPlay (SB) ???

interested in what you guys think is GTOist amount here



aaand I found what I think I might make my PS picture:


Last edited by vengeful wriggle; 07-19-2017 at 11:31 PM.
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07-20-2017 , 01:52 AM
Thanks for the response. Where do you actually have a solid winrate + sample?


What games did you beat leaving you at z500? =)
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07-20-2017 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GeeTeeOhh
Thanks for the response. Where do you actually have a solid winrate + sample?


What games did you beat leaving you at z500? =)
A lot of micro - small stakes cash: ~200k hands of that. Then at some stage I played like 50 ~$10 tourneys with a 4 figure overall ROI, moved to higher buy-ins, continued to run real good, played some HUSNG eventually as high as 1k buy-in (I assume I wasn't actually beating these, only played ~20 of them). Played WPN, MPN, a couple of others. Then I created my Stars account, and here we are

Last edited by vengeful wriggle; 07-20-2017 at 02:16 AM.
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07-20-2017 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by vengeful wriggle
A lot of micro - small stakes cash: ~200k hands of that. Then at some stage I played like 50 ~$10 tourneys with a 4 figure overall ROI, moved to higher buy-ins, continued to run real good, played some HUSNG eventually as high as 1k buy-in (I assume I wasn't actually beating these, only played ~20 of them). Played WPN, MPN, a couple of others. Then I created my Stars account, and here we are
Hehe alright, thats cool.

Afaik, 200k isn't a sample thou. What makes you think you can play z500 when people with millions of hands can't?

Asking as a fan, not a hater you seem like a cool dude. Just trying to figure out if youll stick around or be gone in a few weeks.

Did any work in PIO or extensive homestudies on your own?

From my pov, to sustainably play z500 one must have a certain set of skills.
( not the taken once )
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07-20-2017 , 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by GeeTeeOhh
Hehe alright, thats cool.
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Afaik, 200k isn't a sample thou. What makes you think you can play z500 when people with millions of hands can't?
got to make the distinction between a sample and experience. 200k is a fine sample for determining whether or not you are a winning player at the stakes you are playing - but it's not that much experience.

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Asking as a fan, not a hater you seem like a cool dude. Just trying to figure out if youll stick around or be gone in a few weeks.
dw, im happy to have someone engaging in the thread


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Did any work in PIO or extensive homestudies on your own?
Not so much. I do have an OK idea of combos in my estimate of villains' range when I'm playing, which took quite a bit of effort. And I still don't have enough of an idea about ranges @~50bb deep to do this properly.

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From my pov, to sustainably play z500 one must have a certain set of skills.
( not the taken once )
yup, but there are a lot of bad players at 500z still. imo people overstate the difficulty of the stake.

Last edited by vengeful wriggle; 07-20-2017 at 04:54 AM. Reason: spelling on villians -> villains
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07-20-2017 , 05:06 AM
Good luck to you mate, I like the ambitious type .
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07-20-2017 , 05:37 AM
Have you got any Graph'age' of you small stakes winnings? Gl

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07-20-2017 , 06:26 AM
You're a really cool person! Thanks for advice in my thread.

Good luck, gonna follow (and learn)...
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07-20-2017 , 08:55 AM
Thanks for the cool response. Seems bit wierd having a 18 year old being as chill.

Will only wish you best of luck, and it is indeed inspiring.
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07-28-2017 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Clanty
Good luck to you mate, I like the ambitious type .
ty dood

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Originally Posted by dm85
Have you got any Graph'age' of you small stakes winnings? Gl

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here's a graph. missing the first ~>100k hands I played.



stakes range from micro to 25/50, in less particular order than might be expected (yes i'm not crushing it but some of these games are pretty tough!)

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Originally Posted by KP24
You're a really cool person! Thanks for advice in my thread.

Good luck, gonna follow (and learn)...
np mate, your pgc is one of my favourites

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Originally Posted by GeeTeeOhh
Thanks for the cool response. Seems bit wierd having a 18 year old being as chill.

Will only wish you best of luck, and it is indeed inspiring.
ty



from the hh I posted earlier:

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interested in what you guys think is GTOist amount here
it is of course an obvious spot for an overbet. i chose 2psb at the time and imo that's a pretty good sizing. probably an obvious spot but as i say i'm just getting used to these 50bb deep spots


Last edited by vengeful wriggle; 07-28-2017 at 03:37 PM. Reason: ps pic
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07-28-2017 , 05:21 PM
I sent ya a pm OP, please read it when you get the chance
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07-29-2017 , 02:45 AM
When are you streaming?

Would watch
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07-30-2017 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Clanty
I sent ya a pm OP, please read it when you get the chance
Yeah do this op
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08-01-2017 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by vrael111
Yeah do this op
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08-03-2017 , 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Clanty
I sent ya a pm OP, please read it when you get the chance
much obliged clanty, I'll respond later

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Originally Posted by Burnt Chrysler
When are you streaming?

Would watch
dunno sorry, I did one tiny test stream. everything worked fine. so I'll stream whenever's next convenient.

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Originally Posted by vrael111
Yeah do this op
welcome to the thread



I've been sick in bed so I've been playing donkaments on my phone. Didn't cash any of the 2 cent sitngos I played but binked an $11 big ante tournament for ~25 BI. Also played a tiny bit of 500z. Lost both runs in an all-in v jakobus where I was ~66% to win with top 2 on the flop and then ragequit the pool
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