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11-09-2016 , 07:40 PM
TY for feedback, river is prob meh but oh well.

So just not running well atm. I looked at some hands this morning and calculated around 10bi of money i could have saved by playing hands in a better way.

Im now back at -15bi for month and going into the lab to do a DB review find out what is happening.

Since my first session on 7th Oct with my euro mate my ev wr is like 2-2.5ev bb over about 49k hands, so not terrible but could be much better. Not happy overall with decisions im making. More study required! Just after spending 1hr reviewing this morning rather than playing it becomes so clear how many errors im making and how many BB im losing because of this. Plugging leaks is def required!
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11-10-2016 , 09:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by max85
i know this thread is dead however for all those who are struggling with zoom get rid of it

ive totally moved away from it and only play 25nl 6 max on stars and have played 30k hands in past 2 months and winning at over 10bb/100

so much softer its crazy...zoom is so nit infested and much harder without

thread over

GL peeps

Read through your old PGC and found this... how do you feel about this now?

Another question, since you have played from the bottom: How big do you feel the difference is between the levels from 5nlz -> 100z? And where is the biggest gaps?
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11-10-2016 , 04:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trying2hard
Read through your old PGC and found this... how do you feel about this now?

Another question, since you have played from the bottom: How big do you feel the difference is between the levels from 5nlz -> 100z? And where is the biggest gaps?
hey mate

lol at my post. At times I hate zoom because its soooooo easy to tilt off many BI when you are not mentally solid and playing a great default game.

I think zoom has really helped me learn and understand poker theory and develop solid fundamentals.

I would actually recommend now because of following reasons:

1. Volume
2. No table selection
3. You will improve faster
4. Helps with mental game
5. Helps you understand default plays and strategies if you employ them
6. Easy to exploit certain player types

Yeah ive moved from 5nl to 100nl now, which is something im happy with and proud of because its not easy. I still feel like im making sooooooo many mistakes and can move higher with better mental game and understanding of game.

Each zoom jump is big. 5-10z is just abc poker. Play tightish and straight forward. 25z you start to get more aggressive because its very weak tight. 50z is similar but more aggressive overall. 100z less fish, they generally are more aggro, regs are little better but still many bad players. Each level i think requires strong mental game and default game. The higher you go the more important it is to fix hud leaks otherwise the good players will exploit you
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11-10-2016 , 08:39 PM
What do you mean by hud leaks?
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11-11-2016 , 02:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mahsjdi
What do you mean by hud leaks?
a stat in my hud that villains can adjust for and exploit me
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11-11-2016 , 03:49 AM
Thanks for good answers. I also believe that having a strong mental game (and obv a good default play) is vital all the way.

At this moment I'm working on my game at 10z. As you says it's very easy losing some extra bi's here and there if you're not sharp and strong mental. 5 bi downswings come all the time, obviously sometimes bigger - And it's probably the most common leak for most of us not playing our A-game in these situations.

It's also not easy finding something close to our true winrate if we're affected by mental issues to often - And for me personally it makes my confidence disappear.

Seems like you have a good idea and plan for how to become better. Keep up the good work!
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11-11-2016 , 10:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trying2hard
Thanks for good answers. I also believe that having a strong mental game (and obv a good default play) is vital all the way.

At this moment I'm working on my game at 10z. As you says it's very easy losing some extra bi's here and there if you're not sharp and strong mental. 5 bi downswings come all the time, obviously sometimes bigger - And it's probably the most common leak for most of us not playing our A-game in these situations.

It's also not easy finding something close to our true winrate if we're affected by mental issues to often - And for me personally it makes my confidence disappear.

Seems like you have a good idea and plan for how to become better. Keep up the good work!
If you can get the fundamentals down and a strong mental game you will go well imo. Mental game is the key for most players.

So i took a day off and study my database. Found many leaks and mainly mental game issues again. Calling too much and stacking off to light

I made 2 bad errors today. But oh well, i will review and get better




VS reg.......im not sure what is worse. My triple or his call

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $40.38
Hero (SB): $103.50
BB: $103.18
UTG: $121.49
MP: $104.65
CO: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 5 A
2 folds, CO raises to $2.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $9, 1 fold, CO calls $6.50

Flop: ($19.00) 3 9 K (2 players)
Hero bets $9.38, CO calls $9.38

Turn: ($37.76) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $18.65, CO calls $18.65

River: ($75.06) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $66.47 all in, CO calls $62.97 all in

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $201.00
Hero shows 5d Ad (a pair of Fives)
CO shows As 9s (a pair of Nines)
CO wins $198.50
(Rake: $2.50)




I post hands like this to make me realise how bad they are. It takes a player with balls imo to post this ****

vs 32/10 big station fish with wwsf of 59 and wtsd of 30

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $106.20
SB: $192.46
BB: $269.91
UTG: $136.75
MP: $193.13
Hero (CO): $129.46

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with A Q
1 fold, MP raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $10, 3 folds, MP calls $6.50

Flop: ($21.50) A 2 8 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $11, MP raises to $22, Hero calls $11

Turn: ($65.50) 9 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $97.46 all in, MP calls $97.46

River: ($260.42) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $260.42
MP shows Ah Kc (a pair of Aces)
Hero shows As Qh (a pair of Aces - lower kicker)
MP wins $257.92
(Rake: $2.50)
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11-11-2016 , 11:05 PM
What's your thought process on last hand once you get check minraised on flop? How come you overjam turn?

Also the other hand, it's tough imo cause turn sizing needs to be bigger but it becomes awkward stack sizes.
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11-11-2016 , 11:38 PM
villains call with A9 is quite fine
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11-11-2016 , 11:38 PM
First hand bet flop smaller vs the, we have AA KK AK KQs 99 he has 99 and 33, maybe KQ KJs, so we have decent range advantage, then like Everest says we can go big on turn without making river awkward.
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11-11-2016 , 11:59 PM
i generally post hands that suck so yeah agree with constructive feedback.

A9 call down depends on how wide he thinks i'm barrelling. i personally think it's pretty damn loose considering he also has 1010 and JJ. so does that mean he should call them? i'm not sure that is right.

i think river is a check fold specifically with this hand as we block some draws.
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11-12-2016 , 02:24 AM
A9 > TT,JJ ... with TT and JJ he blocks some of your bluffs while with A9 he blocks your AK/AA.

GL!
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11-12-2016 , 07:04 AM
Yeah his call is perfectly fine. He removes 8 value combos (3x AK, 3x AA, 2x 99) with that hand so it's really one of his best blocker combos.

We do on the other hand block just as many of his potential call call fold hands with Ad, so we're really picking one of our worst combos to bluff with here. Unblocking all diamonds rather then blocking them would be fantastic, so JTs, QJs, QTs no diamond is a much better jam. That's 9 combos, and we have 21 or so value jams if we check KK somewhere, so it's right at the point of a perfectly balanced jam with the price we're laying.
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11-12-2016 , 04:37 PM
Fwiw A5dd triple is fine at some frequency, if we remove all Ad from our bluff range we make it correct for him to call AdX at a higher frequency.
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11-12-2016 , 05:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
Fwiw A5dd triple is fine at some frequency, if we remove all Ad from our bluff range we make it correct for him to call AdX at a higher frequency.
If villain blocks our bet/bet/give ups he should ofc call less once we jam, not more.
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11-12-2016 , 07:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SalmoTrutta
If villain blocks our bet/bet/give ups he should ofc call less once we jam, not more.
Think more about it.
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11-12-2016 , 08:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
Think more about it.
It clicked eventually so thanks.

Still, PIO checks all Ad hands, so the first level combinatorics of blocking/unblocking call/fold hands is evidently more powerful in this instance, which seems pretty intuitive to me. There's just no sense in not bluffing the better combos if we know which they are imho.

That said I def learned yet another way to be a station just now. I'll blame you if it gets expensive
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11-13-2016 , 12:45 AM
Yeah A9 looks fine, prob best bluffcatcher after Kx
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11-13-2016 , 01:59 AM
Good discussions guys and thanks for feedback on hands. Im learning alot.

I took my staff to a team building fun room where where need to work out how to escape from a room by unlocking padlocks etc. There are clues that you need to decipher. It just showed me how when we put our minds together you can propel forward very quickly.

Speaking of which, several players have said hi at the tables. Im keen to chat to peeps on skype to those who play on stars and want to talk strat pm me your skpye and ill add you.

Today was insane! EV wise i ran well but god damn just the worst runouts when im not all in. Had to fold soooooooooooooo many times. But im actually happy i stayed quite disciplined.



Hands

vs fish (one of two times i lost to quads today)

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $294.43
Hero (SB): $289.67
BB: $56.82
UTG: $355.45
MP: $163.01
CO: $87.56

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 3 3
1 fold, MP raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($7.00) 3 6 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $3, Hero raises to $12.48, MP raises to $40, Hero calls $27.52

Turn: ($87.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($87.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $63.37, MP raises to $120.01 all in, Hero calls $56.64

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $327.02
Hero shows 3c 3d (a full house, Threes full of Sixes)
MP shows 6c 6s (four of a kind, Sixes)
MP wins $324.52
(Rake: $2.50)




I think this is a fold but god dam 36s, cmon dude

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $100.00
SB: $116.77
Hero (BB): $142.82
UTG: $311.25
MP: $67.32
CO: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with K K
4 folds, SB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $8, SB calls $5.50

Flop: ($16.00) 6 6 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.01, SB raises to $17.62, Hero calls $12.61

Turn: ($51.24) J (2 players)
SB bets $24.37, Hero calls $24.37

River: ($99.98) T (2 players)
SB bets $66.78 all in, Hero calls $66.78

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $233.54
SB shows 3c 6c (three of a kind, Sixes)
Hero shows Kd Kh (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
SB wins $231.04
(Rake: $2.50)



for fun

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $266.36
SB: $57.00
BB: $80.00
UTG: $103.11
MP: $127.41
CO: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with A A
3 folds, Hero raises to $3, SB raises to $57 all in, 1 fold, Hero calls $54

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $115.00
Hero shows Ac Ah (two pair, Aces and Eights)
SB shows Qc 9c (a flush, Queen high)
SB wins $56.25
SB wins $56.25
(Rake: $2.50)



lost both runouts lol


Gota review this in PIO but pretty sure its ok with AJ. AQ would be check

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $100.00
SB: $68.77
BB: $112.75
UTG: $70.92
MP: $112.07
Hero (CO): $293.28

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with A J
1 fold, MP raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, 3 folds, MP calls $6

Flop: ($19.50) 7 9 3 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $6.11, MP calls $6.11

Turn: ($31.72) K (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $22.59, MP calls $22.59

River: ($76.90) 6 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $255.58 all in, MP calls $74.37 all in

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $225.64
MP shows 3c 3d (three of a kind, Threes)
Hero shows Ah Jc (high card Ace)
MP wins $223.14
(Rake: $2.50)




vs fish

always second best hand

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $37.89
SB: $115.06
BB: $179.54
UTG: $85.31
MP: $55.42
Hero (CO): $261.34

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with A Q
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.50, 3 folds, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.50) J 3 A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $7.48, UTG calls $7.48

Turn: ($25.46) 6 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $18.14, UTG calls $18.14

River: ($61.74) 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $195, UTG calls $55.19 all in

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $172.12
UTG shows Ac Jh (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
Hero shows As Qc (a pair of Aces)
UTG wins $169.62
(Rake: $2.50)



just to mix it up a little

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $235.89
SB: $102.18
Hero (BB): $110.09
UTG: $121.02
MP: $100.01
CO: $45.85

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A A
UTG raises to $3, 4 folds, Hero raises to $11, UTG calls $8

Flop: ($22.50) 2 3 A (2 players)
Hero bets $7.05, UTG calls $7.05

Turn: ($36.60) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $17, Hero calls $17

River: ($70.60) J (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $34, Hero raises to $75.04 all in, UTG calls $41.04

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $220.68
Hero shows As Ac (a full house, Aces full of Deuces)
UTG shows Ts Ah (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
Hero wins $218.18
(Rake: $2.50)




I need some run good for month. Currently -$1,170 and EV -$1519
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11-13-2016 , 02:29 AM
AJo is just spew.
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11-13-2016 , 02:44 AM
Why is AQ a check? Surely that's a better jam...?
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11-13-2016 , 06:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SalmoTrutta
It clicked eventually so thanks.

Still, PIO checks all Ad hands, so the first level combinatorics of blocking/unblocking call/fold hands is evidently more powerful in this instance, which seems pretty intuitive to me. There's just no sense in not bluffing the better combos if we know which they are imho.

That said I def learned yet another way to be a station just now. I'll blame you if it gets expensive
hahahaha

FWIW I think in practice people at 100 will always just fold (more) with the Ad so in practice, it's definitely a give up. However, I suspect pio's output is actually a very low betting frequency with each AdX hand, which I personally would simplify by betting specifically A5dd at some frequency (although obviously this, again, is exploitable in some sense).
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11-13-2016 , 06:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by A_Schupick
AJo is just spew.
+1 to this. Barrelling off AJ here is fine at some frequency (IMO), but this combo is a really bad one to pick because you don't block any KJs combos, so unless he has KJo pre (and peels flop with it), it's close to the worst AJ combo to pick.

Spoiler:
In theory, in practice I'm a complete spewtard and just triple anything worse than a pair here.
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11-13-2016 , 07:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
+1 to this. Barrelling off AJ here is fine at some frequency (IMO), but this combo is a really bad one to pick because you don't block any KJs combos, so unless he has KJo pre (and peels flop with it), it's close to the worst AJ combo to pick.

Spoiler:
In theory, in practice I'm a complete spewtard and just triple anything worse than a pair here.

Lol this sounds very familiar
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11-13-2016 , 05:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
+1 to this. Barrelling off AJ here is fine at some frequency (IMO), but this combo is a really bad one to pick because you don't block any KJs combos, so unless he has KJo pre (and peels flop with it), it's close to the worst AJ combo to pick.

Spoiler:
In theory, in practice I'm a complete spewtard and just triple anything worse than a pair here.
I reviewed the AJo hand in PIO and you would be surprised at the EV differences. It says to check the flop at higher frequency with my combo but the ev is not much different. It also says we should barrel turn and river. We always bet the Kc turn whether we check flop or bet it. If we check, bet then we much check back river. But if we bet flop, turn we must shove river.

Today




Hands

I am capable of clicking check then fold

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $100.00
SB: $50.00
Hero (BB): $117.76
UTG: $136.00
MP: $88.74
CO: $89.18

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A Q
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, BTN calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, 1 fold, BTN calls $8

Flop: ($22.50) 4 T 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.05, BTN calls $7.05

Turn: ($36.60) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $26.07, BTN calls $26.07

River: ($88.74) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $56.88 all in, Hero folds

Final Pot: $88.74
BTN wins $86.24
(Rake: $2.50)


vs weak reg = never bluffing man im a station

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $166.66
SB: $149.90
BB: $49.58
UTG: $239.87
MP: $225.74
Hero (CO): $241.45

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with 6 4
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, BTN calls $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1

Flop: ($6.50) 9 3 6 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $4.08, BB folds, Hero calls $4.08

Turn: ($14.66) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $10.44, BTN calls $10.44

River: ($35.54) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $24, Hero calls $24

Final Pot: $83.54
BTN shows 9 T (a flush, Ace high)
Hero mucks 6 4
BTN wins $81.04
(Rake: $2.50)



I got to review this one......

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $112.92
SB: $213.66
BB: $111.20
UTG: $201.75
Hero (MP): $155.50
CO: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with Q K
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, BTN calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 7 2 J (2 players)
Hero bets $2.34, BTN calls $2.34

Turn: ($12.18) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.67, BTN calls $8.67

River: ($29.52) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $15, BTN calls $15

Final Pot: $59.52
BTN shows 9 K (a pair of Nines)
Hero shows Q K (high card King)
BTN wins $57.02
(Rake: $2.50)


Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $39.52
Hero (SB): $185.87
BB: $155.95
UTG: $154.18
MP: $219.40
CO: $184.41

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with J A
UTG raises to $2.87, MP calls $2.87, 1 fold, BTN calls $2.87, Hero raises to $16, 1 fold, UTG calls $13.13, 2 folds

Flop: ($38.74) Q 2 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $12, UTG calls $12

Turn: ($62.74) A (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($62.74) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $29.51, Hero calls $29.51

Final Pot: $121.76
Hero shows J A (a pair of Aces)
UTG shows 5 5 (a pair of Fives)
Hero wins $119.26
(Rake: $2.50)



Snap

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $77.34
SB: $101.50
BB: $269.28
UTG: $100.00
Hero (MP): $214.61
CO: $97.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with K A
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, BTN calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 9 K 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.70, BTN calls $3.70

Turn: ($14.90) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $7.08, Hero calls $7.08

River: ($29.06) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $13.80, Hero calls $13.80

Final Pot: $56.66
BTN shows Q J (a pair of Nines)
Hero shows K A (two pair, Kings and Nines)
Hero wins $54.16
(Rake: $2.50)
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