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10-29-2016 , 02:29 PM
Im not sure why its so much better, we block QJ and KQ
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10-29-2016 , 07:57 PM
95 obv going for the bluff with gut-shot if he folds enough OTT. I'd give up R readless tho
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10-30-2016 , 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MartimC
43 x river
very good, but why?
Because villian has not much worse to call?I imagine even KQ quite bad bluffcatcher
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10-30-2016 , 11:45 AM
I agree with AQ being a way better bluff. Villain should call more holding Ax blocking AA AK of which almost all combos in our range play this way. The Q blocker is a mixed bag but we do block KQ. 76 has to give up almost always. Villain shouldn't construct a strategy where you have a profitable triple with a really bad hand with 4 outs ott that blocks zero of his calling range on both turn and river.

95 I agree with low turn freq and high river freq. We don't block backdoor hearts and have an offsuit on the flop (block more suited Ax although idk too much about btn flat vs bb 3bet range). The K river does reduce ur value combos but I still think bluff is fine with this combo.

43 is certainly one of the better 3x to x/c since we don't block villain's bluffing range. We hardly ever have 3x in our range, so villain can shove very thin for value not worrying about them. I'm unconvinced that 43 will be a 100% check otr however since we do miss value vs AT and AQ (and maybe KJ).
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10-30-2016 , 01:20 PM
solvers dont use blockers nearly as much as youd like in these spots btw, both AQ and 76s are shoving since they are both +EV shoves, 76s is obviously not a give up
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10-31-2016 , 12:49 AM
signed in and gl

bout this 76s-Hand:
dunno if this hand should be in B-B-give up range or if you can/should tripple it - seems close to me.
AQ should be though certainly in your tripple-range here.

Would be interested to see the mentioned solver-tree - depending on the input, it can be for sure a bet-bet-bet with 76s there - curious how much % more EV the shove from AQ has, compared to shoving there 76s, in your sim..
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10-31-2016 , 01:00 AM
meh I didn't put KQo in villain's range cuz it's a -EV call pre but I'll include it see how it goes
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10-31-2016 , 05:41 AM
AQ flats pre, 76s triples all in. #Solved
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10-31-2016 , 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
AQ flats pre, 76s triples all in. #Solved
Is this from Snowie?
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10-31-2016 , 11:41 AM
I should hope not.
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10-31-2016 , 11:51 AM
yeah it has to be from snowie, my friend showed me snowies flatting ranges in position and it's never 3betting AQs, don't remember AQo

needless to say snowie isn't GTO lol
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10-31-2016 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Fayth
yeah it has to be from snowie, my friend showed me snowies flatting ranges in position and it's never 3betting AQs, don't remember AQo

needless to say snowie isn't GTO lol
though for high-frequently occuring Preflop-ranges, Snowie is considered to be pretty alright, already?

I suppose that poster before has taken the Snowie-Pre-range, but has solved it then for postflop with pio or simple...
And when you do not have AQ in your range, then obv. 76s is always a jam there.
Vs many ppl you want though 3b likely at least in some % pre AQ-combos (suited and offsuited) over flatting them 100%.
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10-31-2016 , 01:53 PM
Interesting that the best 6max players in the world (Baron, Katya, ForHayley, Fish2013 etc) have total 3bet on BTN between 6 and 8% yet small and midstakes regs 10x 3bet BTN with 76s and then argue over postflop frequencies.
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10-31-2016 , 02:12 PM
It's almost like the small and midstakes players don't know as much as they think they do.

It just seems like peraonal opinion when you say "needless to say snowie isn't GTO," since it's billed to be such. I haven't seen a lot of proof saying it isn't, just that people think you should be 3-betting those hands.
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10-31-2016 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MilkMan
Interesting that the best 6max players in the world (Baron, Katya, ForHayley, Fish2013 etc) have total 3bet on BTN between 6 and 8% yet small and midstakes regs 10x 3bet BTN with 76s and then argue over postflop frequencies.
lol baron 3bets 15% BTN vs CO
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10-31-2016 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by A_Schupick
It's almost like the small and midstakes players don't know as much as they think they do.

It just seems like peraonal opinion when you say "needless to say snowie isn't GTO," since it's billed to be such. I haven't seen a lot of proof saying it isn't, just that people think you should be 3-betting those hands.
What do you mean by think we should be 3-betting those hands? We should be both 3betting and calling those type of hands, calling more with offsuit combos and 3betting more with suited combos, unsure about exact frequencies given there are 2 players behind but still it's not a 100% flat, at least not from a GTO standpoint, could just be maximally exploitative strategy from snowie
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10-31-2016 , 03:47 PM
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lol baron 3bets 15% BTN vs CO
how do you know this?
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10-31-2016 , 03:51 PM
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lol baron 3bets 15% BTN vs CO
6 handed he certainly does not.
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10-31-2016 , 04:54 PM
dude BTN vs CO 6 handed or 4 handed is the same exact thing

guess you could make an argument for card removals of UTG and Hijack but it's almost irrelevent
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10-31-2016 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MilkMan
6 handed he certainly does not.
Lmao

15 3bet covsbtn is pretty std tbh
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10-31-2016 , 06:37 PM
Save your energy on speculations, arguments, justifications etc. for subjective topics because I'm not asserting my opinion I am simply stating actual facts. Take it up with the man himself if you think what he is doing is suboptimal.
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10-31-2016 , 06:57 PM
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dude BTN vs CO 6 handed or 4 handed is the same exact thing

guess you could make an argument for card removals of UTG and Hijack but it's almost irrelevent
You are completely wrong. CO PFR 4 handed will obv be higher and it has nothing to do with card removal. Hint, check your CO PFR vs RFI numbers. The differing CO numbers obv necessitate a different BTN 3betting strat 4 vs 6 handed.
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10-31-2016 , 07:03 PM
Makes sense , so when we are playing short handed which obv just means no fish in the game , we are gonna start opening wider, cause its higher ev to play a wider range vs only regs ? Not sure how it works , something like that right ?
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10-31-2016 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MartimC
Lmao

15 3bet covsbtn is pretty std tbh
Don't care what you consider standard, was just stating what one guy who happens to be considered quite good does over a large sample. Actually the fact you consider it standard highlights my original point.

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Makes sense , so when we are playing short handed which obv just means no fish in the game , we are gonna start opening wider, cause its higher ev to play a wider range vs only regs ? Not sure how it works , something like that right ?
Not sure if you are dumb, drunk or trolling me. Filter any decent player's database for 4 handed vs 6 handed play and come back and tell me their CO VPIP and PFR numbers. Kind of amazing that people who win at poker don't understand something as simple as this, I guess the gap concept is too old to be remembered any more.
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10-31-2016 , 07:17 PM
LOL ok dude whatever
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