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01-18-2016 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KingKrab
It's really not just about paying your dues. I wish the world worked that way. Putting in those hours, those dues, is one part of many that have to line up. Hard work is something that the older generations were rewarded for. For millenials, we've spawned in an economically challenging time that's set back our careers and lives by 10 years or so, minimum. Personally for me, many many years beyond that.

Used to be u graduated college at 22, saved up and bought your brand new house at 24. Today, we'd be lucky to have a home by our mid thirties.
Your generation have it so good compared to the ones in 1915s, 1815s, or just about any other generations in the history of human kind. Every generation has its set of challenges, the real problem isn't the lack of opportunities, but the unrealistic expectations.
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01-18-2016 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerdogg
Your generation have it so good compared to the ones in 1915s, 1815s, or just about any other generations in the history of human kind. Every generation has its set of challenges, the real problem isn't the lack of opportunities, but the unrealistic expectations.
I think your correct. But why do we have unrealistic expectations?
The media throws the lifestyles of the rich and famous in our face day in and day out. TV and the internet has become a tool to show the rest of the world what the rich live like. In past generations they never had this.
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01-18-2016 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerdogg
Your generation have it so good compared to the ones in 1915s, 1815s, or just about any other generations in the history of human kind. Every generation has its set of challenges, the real problem isn't the lack of opportunities, but the unrealistic expectations.
This is absolutely true. We obviously have it better. I’m lucky I spawned in America, 1st world country, vs. many other places in this world. I’m lucky I spawned now, vs. like, hundreds of years ago where the avg lifespan was 24 years, everyone served under a king, and died of random as$ sh** like like a nosebleed. Oh, and cheesecake didn't exist. To be honest, I am mindfully thankful about my situation every now and again because I know being the lowest class in America, I still have it better than many other situations around the globe.
We spawned in a time and place where we can choose to identify with over 4000 different sexual orientations and identities, instead of getting hanged for disagreeing with the set standard.

Unrealistic expectations, you are absolute correct again. The reverse argument is that we could totally accept that we will not be more than subservient employees for the next 40 years of our lives. Like, Don’t worry, we have to work from morning to night every day that we are virile, young, and beautiful, but we can actually live our lives and do what we want at age 75 when we will be “allowed” to retire. Thanks Big Business! I’m allowed to travel the world with my fixed income of $1300 a month, although my legs don’t work as good anymore, my pee-pee also don’t work anymore, and I’m too tired and too old to enjoy an active lifestyle anymore. But thanks!


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*When i said office job i am not talking about being a ******ed brain dead receptionist but something like programming or accounting that involves having actual skills.
you know, whatevs. I guess dumb people don’t deserve a living wage.

This is something that I don’t do man. belittling other professions because you believe that they require less skill.

There are braindead people in every profession, and there are brilliant people in every profession. Like Janitor Matt Damon in Goodwill Hunting. Someone’s nurtured experiences may not have let them go to college, having spawned in an underprivileged situation or country.

Even if you were right, and all ‘receptionists’ or waitstaff were entirely made up of people with IQ’s of lets say, 92 or so (average is 100), it doesn’t mean that they don’t work as hard as engineers. Their skillsets are different. Waitstaff and receptionists have to interact with people, have higher than average practical knowledge (EQ) in situations, take getting sh**ed on, have superior organizational and memorization skills… skills not necessarily learned in classrooms themselves, but throughout their lives and periods of time between classes.

Empathy and humbleness is also a highly desirable characteristic. It might be easier if you’ve had a broad range of experiences. I’ve gone from poverty to middle class, back down to street rat. I’ve worked at a fast food place cleaning bathroom stalls to having a white collar desk job, I’ve even been an Uber driver for a short stint. If I’ve only learned one thing from my wide range of experiences, is that most people’s tribulations are hard in their own way.

It’s interesting to see when a 3rd world person replies to a #firstworldproblem comment or meme. One was, “I have a high paying job, a huge house and three kids. I feel so depressed and unfulfilled.” That third world person has a different set of mental, emotional, and physical survival needs, that supersede a need for “fulfillment” in career/life. Third world guy responds with, “WTF is the matter with you. You have everything you ever need. Fu**face.”
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01-18-2016 , 04:37 PM
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you know, whatevs. I guess dumb people don’t deserve a living wage.

This is something that I don’t do man. belittling other professions because you believe that they require less skill.

There are braindead people in every profession, and there are brilliant people in every profession. Like Janitor Matt Damon in Goodwill Hunting. Someone’s nurtured experiences may not have let them go to college, having spawned in an underprivileged situation or country.

Even if you were right, and all ‘receptionists’ or waitstaff were entirely made up of people with IQ’s of lets say, 92 or so (average is 100), it doesn’t mean that they don’t work as hard as engineers. Their skillsets are different. Waitstaff and receptionists have to interact with people, have higher than average practical knowledge (EQ) in situations, take getting sh**ed on, have superior organizational and memorization skills… skills not necessarily learned in classrooms themselves, but throughout their lives and periods of time between classes.

Empathy and humbleness is also a highly desirable characteristic. It might be easier if you’ve had a broad range of experiences. I’ve gone from poverty to middle class, back down to street rat. I’ve worked at a fast food place cleaning bathroom stalls to having a white collar desk job, I’ve even been an Uber driver for a short stint. If I’ve only learned one thing from my wide range of experiences, is that most people’s tribulations are hard in their own way.

It’s interesting to see when a 3rd world person replies to a #firstworldproblem comment or meme. One was, “I have a high paying job, a huge house and three kids. I feel so depressed and unfulfilled.” That third world person has a different set of mental, emotional, and physical survival needs, that supersede a need for “fulfillment” in career/life. Third world guy responds with, “WTF is the matter with you. You have everything you ever need. Fu**face.”
Well said KK. Some people are book smart and some people have other kinds of smarts. A lot of people equate to wealth/money made ='s intelligence. While there is a strong correlation, it's not always the case.
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01-18-2016 , 07:36 PM
KK, great thread and good luck!

Ignore the people giving you ****. Some people aren't cut out for the rat race. Why do you think so many people end up alcoholics, or weighing 350 pounds, or having heart attacks at age 43, or on an oxygen tank playing penny slots? Maybe because their lives have been a miserable hopeless grind since they were in their early 20s (or before)?

I'm in the process of leaving a 6 figure job. Is this crazy/stupid? Many people seem to think so. For my part, I came about as close to having a nervous breakdown as is possible. I was up over a pack of cigs and 6-7 coffees over my 14-hour day, followed by a 6 pack + some whiskey at night, 4-6 hours of sleep, and back to it. I'd rather be living in a car than live like that anymore.

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01-18-2016 , 08:20 PM
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KK, great thread and good luck!

Ignore the people giving you ****. Some people aren't cut out for the rat race. Why do you think so many people end up alcoholics, or weighing 350 pounds, or having heart attacks at age 43, or on an oxygen tank playing penny slots? Maybe because their lives have been a miserable hopeless grind since they were in their early 20s (or before)?

I'm in the process of leaving a 6 figure job. Is this crazy/stupid? Many people seem to think so. For my part, I came about as close to having a nervous breakdown as is possible. I was up over a pack of cigs and 6-7 coffees over my 14-hour day, followed by a 6 pack + some whiskey at night, 4-6 hours of sleep, and back to it. I'd rather be living in a car than live like that anymore.
I understand your plight brother, many won't. They'll think in terms of sheer numbers and not in terms of happiness, the only thing in life that matters.
Sounds like you were an investment banker if I were to guess, not a fulfilling career for a true human being. I know a buddy like you who worked for Wells Fargo investments. His goal was to save half a million in 5 years and then try to start his own business.

I never made six figs at my job or nowhere close, or that's something I might have wanted to do as well.
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01-19-2016 , 02:38 AM
Pretty much. It's just a life I could never have anything approximating happiness doing, and the payoff of "retirement" seems like a bad payoff for the next 30 years...

Close! I am/(was?) a BigLaw associate.
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01-19-2016 , 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by HansSprungfeld
I'm in the process of leaving a 6 figure job. Is this crazy/stupid? Many people seem to think so. For my part, I came about as close to having a nervous breakdown as is possible. I was up over a pack of cigs and 6-7 coffees over my 14-hour day, followed by a 6 pack + some whiskey at night, 4-6 hours of sleep, and back to it. I'd rather be living in a car than live like that anymore.
Grass is always greener on the other side.

There isn't an universal path to happiness and often it's much easier to find "what's wrong" than find what works.

You may have discovered what's wrong and it's good to want to move away from it.

Good luck.
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01-19-2016 , 06:09 AM
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I understand your plight brother, many won't. They'll think in terms of sheer numbers and not in terms of happiness, the only thing in life that matters.
Sounds like you were an investment banker if I were to guess, not a fulfilling career for a true human being. I know a buddy like you who worked for Wells Fargo investments. His goal was to save half a million in 5 years and then try to start his own business.

I never made six figs at my job or nowhere close, or that's something I might have wanted to do as well.
I'm following from your first thread and I really hope two things on this new one:
1. not having to read again discussions about jobs in general or people suggesting a part-time one You made it clear already so people reading should respect or accept this. Like it or not...
2. Hope you don't spend it all in one vacation again, even if it could be an awesome one

All the best KK!!!

PS: would still love to get the TV-shirt organized
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01-19-2016 , 10:38 PM
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I'm following from your first thread and I really hope two things on this new one:
1. not having to read again discussions about jobs in general or people suggesting a part-time one You made it clear already so people reading should respect or accept this. Like it or not...
2. Hope you don't spend it all in one vacation again, even if it could be an awesome one

All the best KK!!!

PS: would still love to get the TV-shirt organized
Hey bud, thanks for following me through.

Sorry for the derail, it happens sometimes haha

Your post made me want to go back through my previous thread, for nostalgia’s sake. I jumped right in the middle, around page sixty something or so, and I saw how much of a di** I was. Maybe it was hormonal imbalance, the abuse of drugs, or inability to cope with the harsh changes in my life.

A girl that I really cared about once told me the reason why she didn’t like taking photos, even though she’s quite pretty. “It’s hard for me to look back,” she said. Holding onto the past, actively thinking about the loss and change that one had to endure all the time, it’s defeating.

But that’s kind of how I live my life. I think back, I look back, to try and not make the same mistakes again. No matter how something ended, I still care for those people I lost during the whole process. I’m only human.

I most definitely won’t be as reckless with my spending, and will keep an eye on my bankroll for huge dips. However, I can’t promise I won’t do some traveling, some exploring, but it’ll stay within reason. We gotta live life to the fullest.

Haha I completely forgot about the TV-shirt. I don’t know who it was, but the last guy who “designed” a logo for me was complete crap. If you could make a cool looking KingKrab logo, I’d totally print the shirt myself and wear it during my poker road trip!



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Breakeven weekend, well, -$85 in total for both days. So I didn’t end up splurging on new home appliances.

Had a good friday session, positive $383.

2 superfish at the table, who were friends, calling wide pre, flop, and turn. 2 titan-ish regs, who blocked some of my opportunities, limiting my earning potential. It seemed like every time I jumped into the pot with the fish preflop, one of the regs would be right in there with me. I don’t even play that many hands. I mean, what are the odds that when I have a playable hand that one of the guys has one too like 80% of the time? I don’t think it was an optimal situation they were creating, but I guess this is just another great example of the tragedy of the commons.

Saturday: I was in for $500 for the day,
lost my first $200 buy in, I was BB multi-way and flopped top and bottom pair on a T85 rainbow board. I lead flop. TP good kicker calls my flop bet, K turn, I continue, get 2 bet, I gii, get called by KT. GG

ReBought in for $300, which I usually don’t do, but I had a feeling.
I find a spot where I think I have to call a short stack all in with TT pre. I don’t like it, and this isn’t usually in my repertoire.

MP $280: opens to $15
MP2 $420: calls $15
Kingkrab $292: HJ with TcTd. Decide it’s a good spot to 3-bet, I make it $45.
BB $120: Goes all in for $120.
MP and MP2 fold.

BB had been nursing a short stack for the last 22 hands at least from my memory. Hard to guess how wide his shoving range would be, especially with a 4-bet. Couldn’t we assume that range would be quite quite narrow?

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01-20-2016 , 04:41 AM
Call. If he's doing this with JJ+, AK (which is tight range) we've got odds to call
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01-20-2016 , 04:49 AM
Sorry to hear the weekend was meh. Still, -$85 isn't bad really.

Hand 1:

I'm a massive nit these days and I may fold to the turn raise. Most of my opponents are pretty passive and their raises, particularly on turn, are usually 2-pair+ Top-bottom pair doesn't do brilliantly against that range.


Hand 2:

I rarely 3bet TT. TBH I'm typically 3betting a polarised range where value is KK+ AK so QQ is frequently a flat and JJ- very rarely 3bet. How wide is short stack 4-bet range? If shortie were the original raiser I think he can be quite wide since he can perceive 3bettor to be isolating him wider than normal 3bet.

However, when the short-stack cold 4-bets a 3bettor who reraised a deepstacked MP open I think the 4bet is nutted a fair amount of the time. If he goes for it with 99+ AQ then I guess TT is in trouble/breakeven at best even with the dead money.

Trouble is it is easy to guess ranges that TT crushes (any pocket pair) or does well enough to happily gii with the dead money (77+ AJ+ KQ). Once you 3bet TT you are going to have a hard time making a correct decision when an unknown short stack shoves. Part of the reason I'm much happier flatting here.

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01-20-2016 , 08:15 PM
So this is what ended up happening:

like you said, I think for hand one, folding on the turn with two pair is a bit too nitty. His raise on the turn is strong, but I couldn’t accept the fact that he likely turned me. Maybe it’s a bit weird for me to say, but I’d even prefer an Ace on the turn rather than the King, I just felt like the king connected, but my hand was too strong to fold.

Hand 2: You’re right, I don’t usually 3-bet TT here, but I felt like the original bettor and the caller between us had enough money that I could 3-bet and fold out uncomfortable hands. I didn’t anticipate the AI by the big blind.

I tanked for a while, and ended up folding TcTd to a $75 raise, thinking I’m beat by a better pair.

Sorry for the boring hand histories, not too many interesting situations have come up since the new year. I’m sure it has to do with this past monday being blue monday, the most depressing day of the year based off of an economic model:


where W=weather, D=debt, d=monthly salary, T=time since Christmas, Q=time since failing our new year’s resolutions, M=low motivational levels, and Na=the feeling of a need to take action. Again, no units were defined.

I’m sure the poker ecosystem here will pick up, and there will be many action to be had.




Update on the Move:

The room is great, the bed is comfortable enough, compared to the lumpy seats of my prius.
I honestly feel like a brand new man. A good night’s sleep makes a universe of difference. I still have a hard time falling asleep, but it’s definitely not as bad as it used to be. It was cold, and there was too much of me and my own thoughts, which definitely is not a good thing.

Now I have heat, shelter, a bed, and storage. I can make my own food.


Carrot/Apple/celery juice base, fresh banana and blueberry fruit.

and my first homecooked meal in forever and a day:

Oven baked hotwings and bacon fried veggies. (I know I'm not a chef)

I don’t know how permanent this situation will be, but I’d be okay with living like this for another year or so.

Life question though: I don’t plan on driving my car a lot anymore, maybe possibly for just the 15 commute to the casino and back. I’m not paying for car insurance, and from that $100 savings I can put it towards my rent. Do you think it’s worth risking driving without insurance, or do you think I should just take a 45 minute bus ride each way?
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01-20-2016 , 08:43 PM
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Life question though: I don’t plan on driving my car a lot anymore, maybe possibly for just the 15 commute to the casino and back. I’m not paying for car insurance, and from that $100 savings I can put it towards my rent. Do you think it’s worth risking driving without insurance, or do you think I should just take a 45 minute bus ride each way?
Take the bus. So east for you lose concentration for a second, scratch a Benz and have everything you've worked the last year for gone. Yes, risk is small but consequences are huge.
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01-21-2016 , 03:59 AM
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Take the bus. So east for you lose concentration for a second, scratch a Benz and have everything you've worked the last year for gone. Yes, risk is small but consequences are huge.
I would not risk driving without insurance also.
Even if You are extra cautious, there always can be stupid driver,
who bumps into You and You not having insurance will be almost as bad.
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01-21-2016 , 05:38 AM
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Life question though: I don’t plan on driving my car a lot anymore, maybe possibly for just the 15 commute to the casino and back. I’m not paying for car insurance, and from that $100 savings I can put it towards my rent. Do you think it’s worth risking driving without insurance, or do you think I should just take a 45 minute bus ride each way?
Not sure about USA rules about it but driving with no insurance is calling for trouble all over the world

Take the bus and use the time to read some poker books, enjoi the city view.
PS: don't keep all BR on you whiel in the bus
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01-21-2016 , 10:11 AM
Hot wings look pretty good to me, and how else are you gonna eat veggies if not with bacon?

I'd be careful about not having car insurance just because there are other potential consequences even if you never drive, like losing your registration/having your car impounded/fines. They're unlikely to be enforced if you're not driving at all right now, but I doubt getting a speeding ticket and ending up with your car at the impound lot is +EV.
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01-21-2016 , 12:48 PM
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...Life question though: I don’t plan on driving my car a lot anymore, maybe possibly for just the 15 commute to the casino and back. I’m not paying for car insurance, and from that $100 savings I can put it towards my rent. Do you think it’s worth risking driving without insurance, or do you think I should just take a 45 minute bus ride each way?
Take the bus. It is one thing to risk ruining your own life, but driving without insurance also force others to risk ruining theirs. If you run over a pedestrian, who is going to pay for his injury, loss of income or worse?
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01-21-2016 , 03:33 PM
Pretty sure you can get basic car insurance for way less, like $20 a month. I hear commercials on the radio all the time for stuff like that. Have you even tried shopping around?

Having a car in LA and not driving just because you don't want to pay for insurance just seems silly to me.
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01-21-2016 , 10:05 PM
You guys make a good point about the high risks. I guess I was only thinking about minor car damages as a risk, but considering potential medical costs as a risk, I guess I better not drive without insurance. If you think about it, more people should take public transportation. There is too much power behind the wheel, it's like a gun, you could totally just wreck like, 40 people dead like in grand theft auto before the police could stop you.

Another note about the bus systems in LA: in many of the cities I've been in, the bus riders seem to have a diverse socioeconomic background, but in LA it just seems like only poor people ride. I wonder if that's a problem that could be fixed. Increase ridership, less pollution, less traffic and traffic accidents.


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Pretty sure you can get basic car insurance for way less, like $20 a month. I hear commercials on the radio all the time for stuff like that. Have you even tried shopping around?

Having a car in LA and not driving just because you don't want to pay for insurance just seems silly to me.
Yea, it's super easy having a car, much more freedom, I prefer it. but I'm pretty sure those car commercials have limitations, where you have to have perfect driving record, drive only half a mile a day, newest model white car, have to be 6'4.
They're using a marketing technique called 'lowballing,' to get you in the door. It's like those sales at H&M or something, the signs say, "up to 70% off." There's literally like, one item for 70% off and it's an ugly out of season green sweater, the rest of the items are only 10% off. It's all scammy.
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01-21-2016 , 11:19 PM
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Yea, it's super easy having a car, much more freedom, I prefer it. but I'm pretty sure those car commercials have limitations, where you have to have perfect driving record, drive only half a mile a day, newest model white car, have to be 6'4.
They're using a marketing technique called 'lowballing,' to get you in the door. It's like those sales at H&M or something, the signs say, "up to 70% off." There's literally like, one item for 70% off and it's an ugly out of season green sweater, the rest of the items are only 10% off. It's all scammy.
Ok, you're "pretty sure," so that means you've probably already called and gotten a bunch of quotes for your specific situation and you're not just basing this huge life decision on your own random assumption that these companies are all "scammy" and you'll never find any kind of deal because the car insurance industry is completely rigged. Got it.

Have fun riding the bus!
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01-22-2016 , 12:34 AM
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Ok, you're "pretty sure," so that means you've probably already called and gotten a bunch of quotes for your specific situation and you're not just basing this huge life decision on your own random assumption that these companies are all "scammy" and you'll never find any kind of deal because the car insurance industry is completely rigged. Got it.

Have fun riding the bus!
I didn't mean any disrespect. I guess my tone can be easily misinterpreted.

I'm just a tiny bit... paranoid, or pessimistic when it comes to things like this.

Someone called me out on this before, pertaining to a hand of poker. They said I have monster under the bed syndrome. Maybe they were right..


Clocking out early tonight...
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01-22-2016 , 12:48 AM
While you have the tin foil out you should probably make a hat.
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01-22-2016 , 01:11 AM
PS, a monthly bus pass in LA is at least $100 per month. If you want to pay per ride it's $1.75 each way. So, even if you only ride the bus like 5 days a week it won't cost much less than just getting car insurance.
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01-22-2016 , 02:28 AM
KK, admire your effort. Ignore the other krabs in the bucket haters.

As for that girl you "****ed up with", forget about her mate. Move on, is my best advice... best of luck!!
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