Why did you check to him on the river?

Going to take a day off of poker. It's gonna be tough for me to kill 12 hours of the day without poker though... yes, my gripes even transcend #firstworldproblems. Life is good.

Here are some random pictures I've taken in the past few weeks:


One of the prettier views I've found. Taken in McArthur park in the middle of hispanic-land.


First time I hit $25k in profits from LA before I deposited.


My room, which is actually the corner of the living room in my friend's single.


0 MPH on the freeway occurs more often than non-LA'ers might expect.


I failed to get any really good pictures of this place, but this is from the roof of the home game I went to.

Good question. Well, I'm not actually sure if you're asking because you think I should value bet or bluff the river. As for value betting, I don't expect him to call with much worse than KQ very often here, if ever. QJ is the best of the very few hands he could potentially get to the river that are capable of even trying to make a hero call, but even if he has QJ he's most likely folding.

While spades and aces aren't really in his range, I could have been putting a standard cbet on the flop, backed into spades on the turn for a double barrel, or he could put me on AK because I raised pre (lol). Whether he's thinking any of this who knows, but mainly yea, the "best" hand I could get value from is QJ and I just don't see him calling with that.

Turning my hand into a bluff to try to fold out specifically Acxc hands is way too narrow of a range to be profitable. Also I doubt he even folds those (remember, recreational players REALLY hate folding) although he definitely should vs. my river betting range here.

25k one picture, bed in the corner of living in other. 5*

^ haha yea baller I know. Thanks for the comments!

Just listened to my own LATB commentary. Not to sound too narcissistic but I actually thought I did a good job! I come in about at 1:50:00 if you want to listen. Free for 1 week.

http://www.pokernetcast.com/poker-vi...-and-dave.html

Wow, just read through this entire thread. Awesome stuff. I enjoy reading your thought process about the NLH hands, though I'm completely clueless when it comes to Omaha, as I've never before played.

I'm essentially a beginner by your standards, but quickly gaining knowledge by spending all my free time playing and studying, as well as listening to Bart Hanson podcasts while I work. Anything specific you'd recommend to improve at the optimal rate as a newer player? Specific books, shows, podcasts, etc?

Also, cool to read of a player in LA. I have hopes of moving there in just over half a year when the opportunity presents itself. I'll happily continue reading this thread as you update.

Any rebroadcasts of LATB in which you're playing still free to watch?

Man that's a tough question. I suggest finding some guys in this subforum with good threads who update strategy advice often and following them. That way you'll be exposed to a variety of mindsets of winning players playing the same poker landscape that you're playing. Bart Hanson/books are fine but sometimes their target audience is a bit different.

Regarding LATB, I played Friday's LATB for the first half and did commentary for the second half, but my play was pretty meh for that session. C game.

Thanks for the comments!

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I'm about to go to my job interview with Riot Games. Not sure if I talked about it in this thread yet, but I applied awhile ago when I had tons of free time because why not. Now that I've had time to actually think about it, I don't think I want an office job again even if I get accepted. We'll see what happens.

Subscribed.

Keep at it OP - good thread.

tyty.

FINALLY DIDN'T LOSE AT BIKE'S PLO GAME TODAY for the first time in like 10 sessions there. Was up $500 even in about 5 hours.

LA total: $29648, 227 hours.

wow just played my F game at the Commerce 10/20. worst I've played that I can remember. Last hand I played:

I open to $50 with A9 from MP, younger player who I suspect is a pro but very snug calls in BB.

Flop K75, pot $110
Check/check.

Turn A, pot $110.
Villain leads for $110, I call.

River 4, pot $330.
Villain leads for $220, I call. He has K7o.

Turn is a super easy fold vs. this guy. River is an even easier fold like wtf. I immediately racked up and left after this hand.

Down $1431 in 2 hours.

In other news, I'm going to Vegas this weekend. Going with non-poker friends so I probably won't be playing at all but we'll see.

LA total: $28217, 229 hours.

Why did you check the flop? Seems like a pretty good board to put a bet out on

Flop check is standard vs. this type of player I think (loose preflop but basically pure value postflop), he'll always check to me on the flop (as seen with top two), and he'll check/fold any turn card if he doesn't have anything.

^ By the way these guys are easy to play against if you're paying attention, I just made a massive massive fk-up. HOWEVER I'm not knocking his game as his style is really really profitable at the 10/20 Commerce games where no one ever folds top pair (including myself... apparently...)

Actually, I don't know, ugh I need a break from poker. No poker tomorrow or Friday no matter what.

Honestly think the turn is a call and river is a fold. As for pros it's hard to know who is and who is not a pro. But anyone who calls out of the blinds with k 7 hoping to flop 2 pair does not qualify. He either has to be capable of making good calls with one pair hands or bluffing from time to time because he does not flop big hands often enough to make it profitable.

Just from reading the thread I think you overestimate your skill level and underestimate the skill level of your opponents ( at least the winning ones - fish either suck or are there for the gamble and there are still a lot at the highest level.

But honestly no one really knows what there win rate is until they play tons of hours. That's why I respect former online grinders they actually know their win rates. There also is some benefit in learning at lower stakes games. 99 percent of people can't afford to just jump into big games without risking going broke even though the rake advantage in la is gigantic.

hmm, contradictory, or did you mean overestimate?

regarding my own skill level/winrate i'm not sure what you're referring to at all, i posted that i think i could make $50/hr like almost half a year ago (and I think that's true, maybe it's not, I always appreciate comments)... but don't think I've mentioned anything since then. Unless you're just saying I'm running above EV in LA, which I thought I made it pretty clear throughout the thread that I agree with that lol.

I don't agree with calling turn and folding river doesn't make much sense. seems like we are just burning money. what hands do we beat on the turn? this is all with the assumption that villain is a good player even tho he called pre with Garbo.

Don-
On LABT you or Tuckman mentioned a $2/$2 PLO game at The Bike. Do you have any info on when that runs? thanks!

Dude I have been itching so bad to get that game going. I have to wait for Lizette to submit the freaking approval, which she told me she would have done over a week ago, I talked to her this Tuesday about it, and she said she will 100% for sure have it done by Wednesday (which was yesterday).

I texted her yesterday she said she's working on it... but no proposal yet.

^^It's not done yet? She even said on the table when she played that it was gonna start in the next day or 2.

I guess i'll have to go back to boring NLHE...

It was on the show but not approved?
Does not compute.

!!! Proposal has finally been submitted. Now just waiting on the higher ups in the Bike to voice their opinions. Hope it goes smoothly.

FINALLY!!! can't wait to play it

haha well it has to be approved by the higher ups but hopefully that will be soon.

I'm going to be in Vegas for this Saturday/Sunday/Monday. PM me if any 2+2ers wanna meetup.

no latb today?