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01-13-2013 , 03:08 PM
But yaya we already knew this lollivepoker people don't fold overpairs even 300bb deep
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01-13-2013 , 03:15 PM
That reminds me I played another hand where I really didn't like my play.

Good nit-ish TAG opens to $50, I flat TT (I had just squeezed to 175 over his last open with Q3s and everyone folded), 2 others call.

Flop 664ss. Pot $200
V bets $175, I flat.

I'm reasonably ahead of most of his cbet range, but not for that sizing. Should be a fold here. I folded turn and he showed JJ.

Also, any 2+2ers in LA wanna meet up??? I find it really strange you can hardly find any LA threads.
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01-13-2013 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
****************. bluffed off like 4k in spots where i was obviously repping a monster but villains were stations. goddammit i'm so bad at poker.

villain posts in CO or something, I raise BTN to $60. 2 callers.

Flop JcTs6d, pot $190
Villain checks, I bet $125, villain calls.

Turn Qd, pot $440
V checks, I bet $235, V calls.

River 3s, pot $910
V checks, I bet $600, V tank calls with QJ.

A few hours later:

Tight middle aged white guy villain raises to $65 pre, 2 callers.

Flop 865r, pot $200
V bets $175, I call.

Turn offsuit 4, pot $550
V bets $400, I call.

River T, pot $1350.
V bets $500, I jam for $1000 more, he calls with KK.

Hands I won are all where villains bluffed off their stacks... yea...

I limp called with J8, then check/called 3 streets on J335T, final pot size was like $2000. V had AQo.

Other hand, I raise pre with J7s to iso super-bad villain who limp/calls, V leads on 997, I raise, he flats. Turn 9, he leads for roughly pot, $300. No way he limps 88+ or leads turn with a 9, I call. River was some low card, he leads for $700, I'm a bit worried he actually did randomly have the 9, but I call. Final pot size $2500-ish, he mucks.

In conclusion: bluffing does not work in live poker. But we all already knew that, it just cost me $4k to re-confirm it to myself. aiwuefnai34gnq3i4ynq4t. Maybe if I were a 50 year old white woman they would have folded. I guess I'm doomed to never be able to bluff people for the rest of my life due to my ethnicity.

-$1600 today (all I brought with me).

LA total: -$1446, 18 hours.
****ttt man
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01-14-2013 , 02:24 AM
Big hand of the day: Hyper-aggressive villain raises to $45 pre, 2 callers, I call in BB with 76o.

Flop Ad9d8s, pot $180
I check, villain checks, V2 bets $80, V3 flats, I raise to $300, villain raises to $800, V2/V3 fold. I call.

Turn 7c, pot $1960
I lead $1500. Villain jams for my last $1345. I call. He shows AA.

River 5, pot $7650
Finally getting my AIEV closer to my greenline since Pittsburgh. I legitimately felt bad for the guy though.

Seems crazy spew, I know. However villain has been putting money in extremely light and I thought his range includes Ax, flush draws, and tbh maybe even gutshots on the flop. I lead turn repping a monster (and committing myself vs his range), obviously forgetting what I told myself yesterday about not bluffing- however we've been playing for several hours and my image to him is a TOTAL NIT (I think*). I took a very similar line vs. him earlier with a set and he folded top pair, I check/folded KK on 642ddd in a 4 way pot, folded AK OOP to his first 3bet (obv before I realized he aggro he was), folded KQ on K82 to a raise vs. another player who showed AJ. Table has been showing hands so I have too.

*I noticed I'm really good at figuring out villain ranges, but not very good at assessing my own perceived range. Will work on that in the future.

In retrospect I think my flop play is totally fine (standard, even), but turn should be a check/call or check/fold depending on his betsizing. I noticed I have a leak in large pots, where I have this mentality that "if I fold now, I'll be stuck" so I convince myself to bluff at it. Need to recognize this and avoid it in the future.

I also noticed I have a major table selection leak. I've never really had the opportunity to do it before, so I don't know how to effectively table select:

1. When do I observe other tables? (walk around in between hands? sit out an orbit every once in awhile?)
2. How should I observe other tables? (just glance at each one and check the average stack/pot size, or watch a few hands for gameflow?)
3. How much time should I be devoting to this?

Would love advice on table selection, and will research it later.

Also, I'm not sure how I'm all of a sudden able to play long sessions again without getting tired. Maybe playing outside my bankroll is keeping my interest.

So yea, 3 things I need to improve on mentioned in this post.

+$6536 today in 8 hours.

LA total: $5090, 26 hours.
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01-14-2013 , 02:49 AM
Nice session! I usuallly just scope out the tables while on the list and look at stack sizes, watch a hand or two and see if I notice anyone spewing. Once you have been playing the same place a few times you might recognize recreational players you have played with in the past and wish to play with again.

If I am at bad table I'll usually skip a round and search for greener pastures.
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01-14-2013 , 02:56 AM
heh, "kind of" nice session. Would have been stuck if I didn't hit an 8 outer

oooooooh 1 more leak I need to fix while I'm on the topic. When I'm making a value bet I keep trying to make it look like a bluff ("how would I play this as a bluff?") and vice versa for my bluffs in order to stay "balanced", but tbh I think that's 1 level too high. I need to play my value hands faceup since people love calling, and play my bluffs (also, MAJORLY cut down on the amount) like bluffs and let other people level themselves.

So that makes 4:
-quit trying to be 1 level too high
-table selection
-awareness of my perceived range/image
-be more willing to give up in big pots
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01-14-2013 , 03:49 AM
What game were you playing? 5/10 NL no max at Bike? Or were you playing 5/10 NL 1500 cap at Commerce?
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01-14-2013 , 04:14 AM
I was playing at the Bike. omg the food there is amazing.
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01-14-2013 , 11:24 AM
Aesah,

You should try playing more often at Commerce than Bike because the cash games will be better over at Commerce.

LAPC will be in full swing this week, and the WSOP Circuit is winding down at the Bike.

If you are still in town next month, you should be dividing your time between Commerce and Hawaiian Gardens because thosev2 casinos have the most action outside of tournament time. Hustler and Bike have significantly tighter and tougher games.

Hollywood Park has reliable action, but it is also the most dangerous casino in LA. The chances of your beung robbed and/,or killed there by the criminal elements from the black ghetto in Inglewood is made worse by the fact that Hollywood Park management does not care at all at providing a safe and secure environment for their customers. I have personally witnessed shady felons being allowed in the back offices of that place simply because they are "buddies" with all the black security guards.
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01-15-2013 , 05:22 AM
^ thanks for the advice. Yea I'm mainly playing at Bike because of the WSOP-C, I've been told the action will move to Commerce during LAPC. It's a bit closer to where I'm living too which is good.

really, really uneventful day. Only 2 hands that I can even kind of remember as I'm writing this is one where I raised AK pre from UTG, only BB calls. Our history at this point is I have value-towned him for two streets with middle pair twice in the past 20 minutes- he's a good thinking player IMO and called in spots where I was repping a polarized range. Flop AQTr, check/check, turn blank, check/check, river blank, check/bet pot/call. He flips over AT. gg lol

Other hand I got it in with A449 vs. A39T in PLO8 on 942Tr for $2000+ in a limped pot (5-5-10), I re-potted flop in position, he flats and basically open ships turn. I know nothing about PLO8 so yea. Lets see, he has 8 outs to scoop, 12 outs to chop, and gets scooped on everything else. We ended up chopping it.

Got coolered in a couple small-ish pots- both times where I raised pre and villains (different people) held T2o and the flop was something like 622, wtf. So I'm down $603 for today in 10 hours.

LA total: $4487, 36 hours.

Last edited by Aesah; 01-15-2013 at 05:33 AM.
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01-15-2013 , 01:08 PM
do they really have plo8 at the bike?? been to commerce quite a bit and never even seen a list for the game. it is a daily thing or just a once a week thing? even plo high is like one game only at commerce.
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01-15-2013 , 09:58 PM
I dunno man I've been in LA for like 1 week =P
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01-15-2013 , 10:13 PM
On table selection.

If you are at a bad table...get up and wander to the drink station...act like you are going for a smoke...whatev.

If you are scoping 5/10...most people won't even notice you railing the tables...5/10 and up get railbirds all the time...mostly from 1/3 players dreaming about how things could be

Mainly just keep sorta moving so it isn't completely obvious when you get to a new table that you were the shark circling it 10 minutes ago.
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01-15-2013 , 10:52 PM
LOL quick phone update. Some old guy away from the table genuinely said to me meaning well "you suck. you are fish" (in concern of me going broke).
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01-16-2013 , 03:31 AM
ok yea. ^ that was a result of me raising pre and calling a re-pot in position with J975ss. Then basically had 1 PSB left on J85, obviously got it in (held vs AAxx). But yea it was an older guy who seemed genuinely concerned that I was playing too expensive games. I think he's right in all regards of his comments.

Hmm, I played the $2/$3 (100-300 buyin) game while I was waiting for something better, I made what is a meh river bluff here:

Straddle, 4 limpers, hero calls in BB with 97.

Flop T88, pot $30
2 checks, V bets $20, 1 caller, I call.

Turn Q, pot $70
I check, V bets $40, we both call.

River 7, pot $150
I check, V bets $25, 1 caller, I make it $125 total. V tanks for like 3 minutes and calls with QT. Lame. I know I'm not repping anything but I didn't think he could call with that lol.

I straddle next opportunity and jam my $60 or so left over a few limpers, the last one calls me with 93o, wtf.

Anyway yea. Played 5/10 NL later. Total played for about 6 hours and was up $1141.

LA total: $5628, 42 hours.
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01-16-2013 , 03:54 AM
Nice run so far in LA. Any interesting hands from the 5/10?
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01-16-2013 , 05:02 PM
Hand 1:
Not particularly, Called a triple barrel on Q84T7 with AQ in a single raised pot in BB vs an EP raiser, he had A6 since I sensed he was steaming. I was right obv. Other hands were standard value hands. But, there are two PLO hands I think I played bad.

Hand 2:
Before I get to that though, I want to talk about the one I mentioned already- I'm really curious how bad is calling a re-pot in position heads up with J975ss with 1 PSB left vs. an obvious AAxx hand? The players at the entire table seemed literally mind-blown (since I had a fairly solid image at that point) but I thought that was standard... maybe my opposition is even worse than me!? (or, it really is that bad lol)

On to the 2 hands I wish I played better:

Hand 3:
3 players in the hand, I have position on two loose players. Main villain is mega whale. He is the same guy who limp/called my ~10bb effective $70 shove from straddle with 93o, I was chatting him up and he actually followed *me* to the PLO table, so +EV. Hilariously, he claims to be an online poker pro- he doesn't seem the kind to be just trolling, I think he's seeking approval/praise lol. I would say "poor guy" but he obv has bazillions of dollars.

Preflop limping. I have JJT9ss no diamonds.

Flop KdJd5x, pot $35
V2 pots it, villain flats, I re-pot, V2 folds, villain calls.

Turn Ax, pot $420
Villain has about $300 left, he checks, I check. Turn should have been a really easy jam =/

River 4d, pot $420
Villain checks, I check behind. He shows AQ72r. I missed like $300 of value on this hand I think.

Amazingly, I jammed with T965ds later in this session to what I was expecting would be a 3 way all in vs AAxx and AAxx, but this villain folded AAxx wtf. I literally think that was the ONLY time he folded preflop out of like 50 hands.

Hand 4:
I can't remember preflop action exactly, but a very loose player (V2 from hand 1) re-pots it pre, I flat with T986ds with clubs in position.

Flop KQ9ccc, pot $400.
Villain bets $125, I flat.

Turn blank, pot $650
Villain jams for $600, I call. He has the nuts... I saw him stack off light MANY times (both being the aggressor and the caller) in the past 2 hours, so I'm not sure if this is a cooler, or if it's a definite fold vs. ANYONE.
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01-16-2013 , 06:42 PM
Are you the tourney at Commerce today? Or are you just playing 5/10 NL cash there instead?

I think the LAPC tourneys will be a good value for you if you enjoy donkaments.
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01-17-2013 , 03:05 AM
damnit I was hoping to come home to a bunch of responses about PLO strat. you guys suck jkjk

I didn't realize LAPC was going on now, will definitely check it out. Personally I'm staying away from tourneys though.

Played at the Bike again, almost exclusively PLO today, about 8 hours. LUCKBOXED/CRUSHED. Had a good player on my left give me some pointers, two main spots.

1. Missed a value bet where a fishy old guy pots it into a $125 straddle-limped pot on a flop of AQ7, I raised to $300, he flats. Turn is a 9, he checks, I pot it for $725, he flats. River is one of the 6 cards I didn't want to see, the K. He checks, I quickly check behind and show AAKT, he mucks.

2. Straddle-limped pot again, I bet $115 into $115 on 997, 1 caller. He leads on a K turn for $325, I jam for $500 more. He folds. This should definitely have been a flat. I had AAQ2. Between these two hands I probably lost $1k of value

Won a couple more big hands: got $1800 in preflop 3 ways with 1 guy AI, I had 9876ss and flop was 966 two tone. I jammed first to act, and we got another $1k in on the flop for the side pot (other guy has 9887).

Other hand, I potted it pre, got limp/raised, went HU to the flop with me having position and JT98ss and about 4/5 of a PSB left. Flop was T82 two tone (not my suit), villain check/folded (claims he had AAxx, reasonable).

Then won some smaller pots where I got 2-3 streets with the nut flush or nut straight, etc.

/shrug I suck at PLO. Literally 95% of my bets are with the nuts so I'm very exploitable. However my villains apparently try to exploit me by calling all my bets instead of folding.

Up $4903 in 8 hours.

LA total: $10531, 50 hours.
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01-17-2013 , 09:54 AM
Pretty sick run. You should play on live at the bike, they recently had a half hold'em / half PLO game. You'd like it, some of the guys are terrible...especially at PLO.
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01-17-2013 , 02:02 PM
If u wanna play live at bike pm me i get u the host number so he can set u up a seat. Also if you playing 1500 nl or higher at commerce use there benefits ! When I was there they took me all over La in a limo for free with all that great free food.
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01-17-2013 , 02:04 PM
Also gotta love the nut blocker for live .
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01-17-2013 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
Hand 1:
Not particularly, Called a triple barrel on Q84T7 with AQ in a single raised pot in BB vs an EP raiser, he had A6 since I sensed he was steaming. I was right obv. Other hands were standard value hands. But, there are two PLO hands I think I played bad.
This hand was on Live at the Bike. Nice hand. It seemed like you played well all show.
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01-17-2013 , 06:34 PM
You're famous now!
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01-17-2013 , 07:43 PM
Quick phone update. Was wondering if anyone would catch that, Snamuh (Snamuh from wc3 by any chance?)

Just made my first ever call with J high. Was good with J4 on Q86Q3 vs 97.

Re: LATB, i didn't like my KK sizing, that was my biggest mistake in my mind. Also I almost called with A high vs that guy's 35 Also I learned apparently I'm more LAG than TAG which is a huge surprise. I guess live poker does go slow...
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