Tried everything, read a thousand articles, practiced for hours and hours, read books, loved the game, but i am seek of it. I just can't beat the freaking micros and i give up. The stupid fishes always fuc**** clean my stack hiting the ****ing 2 to 8 outs they need.

I'll do something else with my time, because now i just hate poker. I sure don't believe in bad luck but... lol...

Hello AFC im new here at 2+2 but i can tell you that bad moments happen in a Poker player life.

If I where you I will try to figure out a New Strategy or trying to see what leaks you have in your game.

Maybe you can try out SNG instead of cash if you play cash..

Good Luck

Yeah, your game can't beat micros so obv you are doing something wrong, like maxostoch said. I can give you a tip, don't think you are the best, don't talk about "fishes" when you are clearly a fish yourself, realize that and start improving, man.

GL.

Very nice 1st post from maxostoch Problem normal hides in your game not others. Gl on wherever your life journey takes you.

play sng 6 max hypers

As Harry said, 6max SNG are good for making some profit out they have some variance but if you play solid game you can get some profit from them.

Maybe you can check out the SNG FR or maybe HUSNG TURBO or Hyper-Turbo if you wish.

Keep in mind this STT are good for making some VPP's

Think this is possibly the worst advice ever. Playing 6-max hypers will not improve your game.

Have you got HEM or PT yet? Maybe invest in one of them and check the holes in your game. Look into a training site as well...

I think that Harry just wanted to tell him "Check out another format"..

I use holdem manager... The most noticeable thing i have is that without showdown i have a big negative profit, and with showdown i have a big profit.
But what should i do? Imagine i am vs a villain with 40 vpip 4.0 agro factor, i am holding aks, i raise, he calls from bb, flop comes 2 4 9 rainbow. He bets 2/3, i call, turn comes J, he bets 2/3 again... How da hell do you do this? it's impossible to put them on an hand!!! once i'l only hit the A or K 33% of the time should i fold to a bet if i don't hit it?

I'll be honest. I just don't know how can i beat these freakin micros... Play tight? yea sure, i played tag, played rock played loose kinda small ball style... SHould i bet only for 2pair+??? If that happens i'll lose a lot without showdown.
And what about the bluffers? 50% of them think that they can make a profitable bluff with flush or straight bluff odds. SO... Imagine U holding top pair and pressing and in the river comes that shi** flush or straight possibility, you bet and villain shoves. Will u be the hero that called the bluff or would you be the idiot that called the shoved when all pointed that he made his draw?

Maybe i think too much, maybe i don't think at all, maybe i know the math of the game too much, maybe i don't know it at all. Some one in here called me fish in here, well, may be i am once i can't advance from the micros

Hey man,

Regarding the AK hand you mentioned. You asked "how the hell do you do this?" Well, it depends, kind of the standard answer a lot of times, but it certainly applies.

How deep are you playing? When you start describing hands to others and/or thinking about them on your own, start thinking about stack sizes, player tendencies, game flow, etc.

Are you able to raise his donk lead on the flop without commiting yourself? Will you follow through on the turn? What type of hands has he shown down in the past? Is he able to fold or did the last software update eliminate his FOLD button?

You have to adjust to players, simple as that. Don't bluff versus people that don't fold thinking that this is the time they will finally fold a hand, they won't!!!

As for people getting there with their draws or floating and pretending to have gotten there. Again, player dependent! Pay attention to timing tells. Think about what you would do if you had the hand your opponent is representing, now examine his overall style. If he plays pretty much a style contradictory to yours there is a good chance that he wouldn't do what you would to. So if you would take a moment to come up with a good bet size that your opponent would call when you make your flush, but he insta monkey shoves, don't assume that he is bluffing, because you wouldn't do that. So don't hero call solely based on the "he wouldn't do that with a real hand" tell. No! You wouldn't do that, but he might.

Hero calls are very much overrated. Sure, there are times you should make them even if just for balance, but that's not where your profit will come from. Ultimately you have to play against players worse than you. Ideally you will be in position vs those players. You have to exploit people's weaknesses, which goes back to adjusting to each player, which brings us back to the standard response of "it depends." It always depends!

Admit that what you "think" you know hasn't gotten you very far, be honest with yourself! Take a break if you have to and get back to the game with a clear head. Learn the math, read the books, etc, but don't get to the point where you get fancy vs the wrong opponent.

Meh, I'm sleepy, so I just kind of rambled on and on. Hopefully some of this helps, sorry that I wasn't able to organize my thoughts better.

GL!!!

you do believe in bad luck, everyone does

I normally play with 100bb's.

Vs the regs or ppl i often found in the tables, i can have notes and decide. But in micros u see a lot ppl playing some hands and leave the table. It's impossible to have some kinda of value reads or hints on villains..

It's not just how many blinds you have, but effective stacks. Start thinking deeper!

Also keep the "small hand, small pot and big hand, big pot rule" in mind.

There are times when you will just get felted over and over, even though the "math" was on your side on each hand. But that hand is just that, that one hand. Keep making the right decisions all the time, every time. To do that however, you will need to know what the right decisions are. In order to determine that, start thinking deeper about the game!

Maybe poker isn't for you. If it causes you grief, let it go!

Not saying you should let it go, only you know that. Be honest with yourself, you'll find the right answer. I certainly hope you do!

Best of luck!

I dont. There is no such thing as luck.

important point above... Dont over value AK, or TPTK. Keep pots small in these types of hands... Make money and build pots when you are playing 2P+ hands.

If you have people pre flop raising 60+%, wait for hands and punish them with 4-5x 3bets.

Play less hands... and play in POSITION

lol bro if you've read thousands of articles like u claim u have and u cant beat micros I'd seriously REALLY advise you to consider this next piece of advise i have for u : QUIT!

I feel your pain man, was there myself a few months ago. It can be expensive, but getting some coaching changed my game and got me winning again. Also sticking to 1 format and trying to beat it has helped, as I find the development easier than trying to adjust to different games all the time.

I simply don't understand what i am doing wrong... I know the text book about position, about keeping the pots smalls with small hands etc..

About the math of the game... I studied economics lol. Large years ago when me and my friends started playing poker i was the first talking about the odds, pot odds, EV etc...
About game psychology... Well, i love psychology and i'll even take a degree on it, starting this year.
True that my life nowadays is a freakin mess and that puts my thinking with a "steam" tag, and that's why i go out with friends, hit the gym or go for a run, but well, maybe i don't have the cold head i need for poker.
I can't just understand what's happening.
I am sooooo afraid of poker right now that only the nuts gives me confidence. It seams that even if i hit my hand there is always some one with a better hand. Chances to hit 2 pair with the hole cards is 2%, attending the amount of times i am breaking my heads against this with over or top pair... I am starting to be afraid of even the freakin flop.

I really like poker and i would like that poker would be part of my life style but... I think i need to have courage to understand that maybe the best is just to let it go...
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Thank you all for hearing my blablabla boring talk lol.

Is there something like this in the forum:

PPl coaching for a share in the profits of their studants. some kind of contract, somehow...?? I would like to try something like this

+1

Hypers barely qualify as poker. SNGs all together are barely poker.

Op, I would sign up for a training site. Or atleast get some 7 day free trials. DC is the best value by far.

Pain is only temporary but quitting lasts forever!

hey,

If you really want to take poker serious, you ll need to make some sacrifices. Why don't you participate in a training site. Its super interesting and a very good learning experience. You ll have to pay something like 80 bucks for 3 to 4 months, but if you play like 5nl you ll earn that back in no time.

that would be my advice i guess..

what do you exactly do in a training site?

You train/practice by watching poker videos by [mostly] winning poker players and, thus, hopefully improve your game.

Regardless, I'm not sure why you decided to post this here in PG&C but it sounds like you have quite a bit to learn about poker. You should probably start by posting hh's you feel unsure about in the relevant forum.

AFC my advice to you would be to first of all CHILL the F*** OUT. If beating poker was natural everyone would be smashing it with blogs about crushing the nosebleeds

Fact is: some people learn quicker than others.. But everyone when they start sucks.

I would suggest to you to go to a training site first like deucescracked or dragthebar, cardrunners etc. But mostly deuces cracked since you can download as many vids as you like. Then study them like you studied for your entrance exams. I'd fiest reccomend watching school of taj as this is literally a 'learning how to learn' series. It will teach you how you should approach poker.

Next you can either start at 6max or fullring. Now most people will tell you 6max blah blah blah its where the money's at but I would suggest you start at 2nl FULLRING. Play between 1-4 tables and get a hud if you don't have one. Your aim here will be to just play nit. Look for scriggles famous guide in the fullring section, and follow the hand selection he preaches, because although not optimal, it is defs good enough hand selection for you to beat 2nl at good clip.

If none of the above advice works and you still want to pursue poker I would suggest getting a good microstakes coach. As you previously said you have played/studied many hours so there are probably many facets of your game that are leaks but you don't perceive them as such because you have been doing them so long they are 'standard for you'

I am more than happy to help you with specific hand advice, but I would suggest posting in the micro forum (although don't trust eveything you read!) There are many posters that can offer you advice that at the least will help you beat the micros

AFC if you live this game dont quit change your psico.. what im saying with this.. change the way you think poker, the way you think your opponents all of it.. start a new way of playing poker and maybe results will come. and always, have fun!

1-Really, really thanks for all your answers
2-Sigend up for DC
3- I am making a new approach on poker or so i think. let's see how it goes