Nit it up op and get back to a playable balance

Yes, I feel like grinding 2NL for an extended time period is looking to be on the horizon because this specific site only has 4NL full ring. With some rough math, I feel like 2NL 6 max profit is better than 4NL full ring profit. 6 max winrates are higher and it's 1.5 hands per hour more (90 vs 60.) But I'll probably post a thread about this to see others opinions. I'm also more comfortable with 6max, when I play full ring I really do have nitty stats like 12/8 compared to 6max where I can run as high as 32/25 comfortably (at 2NL especially.)

12 tabling 6max at 2NL with a 15bb/100 winrate for 15 days 4 hours a day is roughly ($192)

10bb/100 is roughly $128.

I think 10bb/100 is minimum at 2NL winrate.

So within 15 days my bankroll should be at a steady $200 again (probably get the remaining $40 bonus cleared too.)

So let's aim for $250 bankroll grinding 2NL before I start again at 10NL.

Ahhhhhhhh.....FML.

LET'S DO IT. GRIND 2NL UNTIL BANKROLL REACHES $250.



THE GRIND IS REAL.

I'm changing this to the following. Final change.

Goal of $200 bankroll. 3 hours a day, 12 tabling 6max 2NL. With a 15bb/100 winrate it should take less than 12 days maximum, including more bonus clearing.

12 days at 2NL isn't like the worst kind of hell I can imagine. Besides, everyone wants to know winrates at 2NL over an extended period of hands (50,000-60,000 should be a nice sample size.)

Played another 3 hours 12 tabling 2NL 6max. 25,000 hands total for the challenge. -$10 for this session.

Lost $15, 7 BI's. Bankroll at $50 ($5 bonus cleared.)

Downswing at around 20 BI's now. A player at 2NL was literally shoving ATC, every hand for over 30 minutes. This player got to a $24 stack doing this, finally busted out but crushed me as well.

Without this variance I would have been up for the night as I was at $70 bankroll before this player sat down and wrecked me.

Welp. This is a great start to a challenge. The grind is real..?
Hand 1

Pre Flop: Me(BB) with [T,K]
(UTG) folds, B(MP) folds, (CO) raises 7.08, (BTN) folds, (SB) folds, Me(BB) calls 7.06


Flop: (A,3,2)



Turn: (J)



River: (4)

Final:

(CO) shows [J,A]
(CO) wins 13.67

Hand 2

Pre Flop: Me(BTN) with [J,A]
(UTG) folds, Me(BTN) raises 0.07, (SB) raises 0.51, (BB) folds, Me(BTN) raises 7.13, (SB) calls 6.68


Flop: (8,J,T)



Turn: (K)



River: (A)



Final:
(SB) shows [2,Q]
(SB) wins 13.92

Hand 3

Pre Flop: Me(UTG) with [A,A]
Me(UTG) raises 0.07,(CO) folds, (BTN) raises 0.12, (SB) folds, (BB) folds, Me(UTG) raises 3.85, (BTN) calls 3.80


Flop: (9,3,J)



Turn: (J)



River: (2)



Final:
(BTN) shows [3,3]
(BTN) wins 7.44

Hand 4

Pre Flop: Me(BTN) with [6,6]
(UTG) raises 8.99, (MP) folds, (CO) folds, Me(BTN) calls 3.78, (SB) folds, (BB) folds


Flop: (J,2,2)



Turn: (3)



River: (J)



Final:

(UTG) shows [2,9]
Returns 5.21 to oh (UTG)
(UTG) wins 7.17

October 7th, 2016. 1.5 hours of poker. 1000 hands. Starting Bankroll $50. Ending Bankroll at $62. +$12. 26000 hands total for the challenge.

We did it! We booked a win! In 1.5 hours 10 tabling 2NL I am up 6 BI's!

It really feels great to have a winning session and to be up 6 BI's even if it IS 2NL.

Spirits are better and I think it's possible to beat 2NL for 20bb/100 with how some of the hands played out...I'll post a few funny ones later.

One thing I did differently was filter for highest VPIP/PFR tables at the top of the list then scroll down to find all the 2NL 6 max and join the ones at the top. Plenty of 40+ VPIP/PFR stat tables avg. Then if you go to 200NL, it goes to around 18-22. I joined a few that were 50+ as well but couldn't find 10 of them.

One thing that always feels good during a downswing is booking a win and dropping down in stakes 1 or 2 levels to get a fresh feeling and feel like you're crushing it.

THE GRIND IS REAL. LET'S GO 2NL LET'S GO 2NL LET'S GO! $200 BANKROLL WILL COME SOON!

GL op. Subbed.

October 8th, 2016. 4 hours of poker. 3000 hands. Starting Bankroll $62. Ending Bankroll at $66.35. +$4.35. 29000 hands total for the challenge.

Crazy crazy night. Took a beating just the weirdest things and coolers happening but ended up for the night cause after all it's frickin 2NL.

12 tabled 6 max , +$4.35 I can be happy with considering an hour before I stopped, I was actually down $3.

THE GRIND IS REAL.

October 9th, 2016. 2.5 hours of poker. 1000 hands. Starting Bankroll $66.35. Ending Bankroll at $82. +$11($5 bonus cleared). 30000 hands total for the challenge.

Opened up 4 10NL 6 max tables. My plan was to play super ABC, very TAG-NIT style. Probably running 19/15 for the session.

I think I finally realized 10NL doesn't have many TAGs or fish that know what squeezing light is, or squeezing with KQs, AJs, etc to isolate an uber-fish.

Every time I feel like a villain might be squeezing light and I get it in with JJ or 99, it happens to be QQ+ and rarely AK. But maybe it's just still a small sample size.

My main goal as the poster above wrote, I should nit it up and just build a bankroll.

A lower variance style is probably best for an aggressive bankroll ascension to begin with.

I also believe that taking out marginal situations will not net a +EV much more - such as playing 28/24, developing a 3 bet bluff, etc.

Basically it's 10NL and I'm beginning to see that players are not too aware of much of anything, except a few weak-tight players but they are too nitty to really do damage to me anyway...so...

Lots of fish at the 10NL tables to beat up on.

I'll keep toning down my LAG/aggression style because since I used to play 100NL and 200NL, I have to remember that 10NL and 25NL is probably just full of ABC TAG-Amateur or Passive-Fish.

In the future I will be less likely to GII with JJ, 1010, and AKo. I will either fold to 3 bets (1010 and maybe JJ villain depenedent) or flat AK to villains 3 bets and play poker postflop. Only to reduce variance and to keep my bankroll advancing.

LET'S SEE WHAT THE NEXT FEW DAYS BRING ALONG AS THIS IS THE THIRD POSITIVE BOOKED WIN IN A ROW.

Badly played hand due to forgetting equity in this specific type of spot.

Pre Flop: Me(CO) with [5,A]

Flop: (Q,8,J) (5 players)
(SB) checks, (BB) checks, (MP) bets 0.91, Me(LP) calls 0.91, (BTN) folds, (SB) folds, (BB) raises 3.80, (MP) raises 8.55, Me(LP) calls 8.55, (BB) raises 5.90, (MP) calls 0.24, Me(LP) calls 0.24


Turn: A (3 players)
(EP) bets 6.10, Me(MP) calls 1.41


River: (K)



Final:
diamanta99(MP) shows [T,Q]
Me(CO) shows [5,A]
Vezen7(BB) shows [8,8]

basically plugging in a range in equilab shows a NFD to be running quite thin. Big chance of a set being in the hand to begin with and also the non set hand could have had a draw with flush cards to take away my outs. And that's kind of exactly what happened.

Reason is of course vs a set, you lose a few of your flush outs because the board can't pair and then of course your A is no good vs an overpair like KK.

So I think a fold is best in this situation. One player was TAG, the other was WEAK-TIGHT. Vs their ranges, I am pretty dead.

I was playing this hand as a gambler and not thinking through it.

In a pretty normal and even a loose range 3 way, a NFD is pretty much 33% at best so that's kind of break even to begin with. With my interest in taking away these sort of full stack risks, It is not in my interest to play these spots.

I will remember this hand for a while.

Good posts, p0ker_n00b. Have been in some pots with you on Betonline. Good luck.

edit: words

Thank you! Say hi if you see me again!

October 10th, 2016. 2 hours of poker. 1500 hands. Starting Bankroll $82. Ending Bankroll at $158. +$72($5 bonus cleared.) 31500 hands total for the challenge.

6 tabling NL10.

Grinding 10NL a bit more tonight and having a spectacular night. Playing my A- game tonight, slipped up a few times on thinking about villain ranges to find a proper bet sizing but all in all, playing very well. I probably did gamble in one spot with flush draw plus gut shot but the villain had fishy stats and I feel a non-set was in the flop raise range so I jammed and sucked out but hey that's poker!

I would constantly check the lobby to see what the table vpip/pfr stats were and continue looking for juicier games as the tables switch out players on a regular basis, I would switch tables out as well and close out the table that had the most regs at them. More work but overall I think it worked out really well. I probably switched tables out more than 10 times in 2 hours.



As you can see my stats are quite interesting for a LAG-TAG type player. I can definitely play higher than 24/18 but the 3-bet % of 3 along with the 88 fold to cbet % and the 83% fold to steal shows I am playing really quite passive tonight and just letting go pretty quickly unless I hit nicely.

50% cbet also. My steal % of 43 is very low for me.

These stats are making me feel pretty comfy as I am not in too much stressful and big pot situations on the flop and I'm just flatting 3 bets with AK, QQ, JJ,etc and playing postflop.

Going to hit up the 25NL tables tonight as well, will post tomorrow how this goes!!!

3rd 25NL shot coming now!!! (After I get a monster and a Wawa sub!!!)

Bankroll at $230. Crazy day. Gotta another stack at $63 right now 4 tabling 25NL.

went from like $60 to $230 in one day. Sweet.

got it in with AA vs AK, also shoved $15 into a $6 river 4 to a straight and the other guy SNAPPED me off with KK, overpair to 9 high board LOL. Pretty ambitious! ( i Had nut straight)

got set in vs AJ on A83 board.

These villains have pretty Taggy stats but that KK call...oh gosh.

Have to remember Tag stats do not mean seasoned Regs...I tend to give too much credit to unknowns or players I don't know TOO well.

I'd say all in all there is only one other solid TAG at the tables right now. Basically the guy that shoved to my big squeeze with AK, he's pretty solid. He knows when to go for thin value and he pot controls IP to wet boards with TPTK type hands. I might try to see how much pressure I can put on him postflop to steal some pots...but not yet , I'm still...

NITTING IT UP.

October 10th, 2016. 2 hours of poker. 600 hands. Starting Bankroll $158. Ending Bankroll at $220. +$62. 32000 hands total for the challenge.

4 tabling 25NL.

Done for the day. 2:40am here!!

October 10th, 2016. 1 hour of poker. 300 hands. Starting Bankroll $220. Ending Bankroll at $140. -$80. 32300 hands total for the challenge.

Hand 1

Pre Flop: Me(CO) with [7,7]
(UTG) folds, Me(CO) raises 0.75, (BTN) folds, (SB) calls 0.65, (BB) folds


Flop: (9,7,2) (2 players)
(SB) checks, Me(LP) bets 1.31, (SB) raises 3.73, Me(LP) raises 7.49, (SB) calls 5.07

Turn: A (2 players)
(SB) bets 12.19, Me(LP) calls 12.19

River: 2 (2 players)
(SB) bets 10.31, Me(LP) calls 6.03

Final:
(SB) shows [2,2]

Summary. I had better set on turn, villain hit quads on river.

POOR ME.

Hand 2

Pre Flop: Me(SB) with [A,Q]

(UTG) folds, (MP) folds, (MP) folds, (MP) folds, (LP) calls 0.25, (CO) folds, (BTN) calls 0.25, Me(SB) raises 1.75, (BB) folds, (LP) folds, (BTN) calls 1.60

Flop: (6,A,3) (2 players)
Me(SB) bets 2.08, (BTN) calls 2.08

Turn: Q (2 players)
Me(SB) bets 4.67, (BTN) raises 10.50, Me(SB) raises 16.40, (BTN) calls 10.51

River: (3)

Final:
(BTN) shows [6,6]

POOR ME.

In hand 2, villain was a WEAK-TIGHT yellow player and the turn min raise made me pretty much VOMIT.

Kind of a mandatory shove over the top though with top 2 pair because I guess sometimes villain could have A3 or A6 or maybe i just want to tell myself that because I was actually just going to fold top 2 pair here vs this specific villain in full ring but whatever. Can't be results oriented, right?

GRIND IS REAL. BACK TO 10NL.

New step ascension to get myself into 50NL.

$150-$250, $200-$300, $250-$350, $300-$400....etc

Drop 2 BI's at 25NL, gain 10 BI's at 10NL. Drop 2 BI's at 25NL again, gain 10 BI's at 10NL again. Basically just keep a step ascension going until I reach 50NL. Then once I hit $400 bankroll whether through stepping it up through 10NL after multiple 25NL failed shots (three so far, yay.) - I may end up skipping 25NL to push into 50NL when it hits $400.

From what I remember, 50NL is not much different than 25NL at least at full flush poker. Contrary to the beliefs, I actually thought sometimes 50NL was EASIER. I've heard this elsewhere before too. But probably just in my own little world...Once it get's to 100NL then you start to face off against REGS that are somewhat more polished because they're the ones that made it past the micros into the 100NL and 200NL.

LET'S GO 50NL LET'S GO 50NL LET'S GO.

October 11th, 2016. 3 hours of poker. 1700 hands. Starting Bankroll $140. Ending Bankroll at $146 ($5 bonus cleared). +$1 (I'll take it!). 34000 hands total for the challenge.

8 tabling 10NL.

swingy swingy day.

Trying to get ace poker solutions to work nicely with sportsbetting by using a hand converter. Working kind of well so far but lots of hands didn't go through.

Today was basically me running into AA like it was my religion

QQ, KK, AK 2 times (A 70BB player limp shoved AA to my squeeze lulz when I had AKs), set over set vs AA (ouch.)

Played my A+ game today and crushed it with my value hands. All in all, I'm +$1 for the day so far, probably will play another session tonight.

Hand 1



Hand 2 PAYBACK







All the AA coolers I won't post as it's a given that it happens sometimes.

Very very happy to be positive for this sessions with all the AA insanity

Looks like I have a format for hand converter now that works very easily. So happy for this!

I guess this means I'll have a graph soon too. Been probably 9 years since I saw a graph of my play and that's when I used to play on Pokerstars...long time ago!!!

Stats I gathered from the thread so far (+$67 at 10NL after 20,000 hands with what I feel has been true run bad plus a bit of me being a donkey with hands like 99 and such. This is...about 3.35bb/100 so far. Pretty small sample but now I'm determined to keep reviewing my biggest pots lost and see if I did some more stupid stuff. )

The past 10 days has been the first time I have seriously played poker for about 6 months. So I expected donkey thinking for the first 20,000 hands or so while I adjust back to online play from casino play.

I think I'll stop playing full ring as it bores the hell out of me - 6/2, 9/3, 8/4, 12/6, 8/0 NITS are flooding the tables today and barely any fish.

October 11th, 2016. 3 hours of poker. 2300 hands. Starting Bankroll $147. Ending Bankroll at $146 ($5 bonus cleared). -$6. 36300 hands total for the challenge.

8 tabling 10NL. +$61 over 22300 hands at 10NL.

Biggest hands lost - Upon reviewing I would probably play them all the same as I did - I do not mind my lines at all for I had solid reasoning for each line I took.

Hand 1 - Villain is my most played opponent at 10NL so far. We are now beginning to make moves on each other and my raise in this hand could mean many many things. So I believe the flop 4 bet to a committing size could be a nicely loose range as well from villain. Hence my flop shove (plus I had top 2.)



Hand 2 - Villain is running 50/35 , 3bet% of 16, cbet% of 88 over 356 hands. I have seen villain cold shoving pre flop, sizing bets extremely awkwardly, potting with draws, etc. I made the decision to get sticky in this spot. Oh well.



Hand 3 - Villain is running 38/1 over 55 hands so villains limp, flat range here could be very wide so I shoved.



Hand 4 - if I remember correctly, a 3 is pretty much never in villains range here and the bet timing were awkard for the spot - Really didn't feel like I was up against AQ and so I felt it was total air. I already found 4 total airball triple barrels today so it's a pretty common theme amongst these 10NL players. Well, here it is (lulz)



Well there we go, those were the biggest pots lost. I hit a lot of monsters this session but couldn't get paid off, villains apparently didn't have anything to pay me off with this time.

GRIND IS REAL.

Ok guys, reviewing some hands here from the past 10 days, all biggest pots lost.

I downloaded EZVID software to record desktop video easily. I plan to now start making videos of all the spots in which spew/donkeytard/sleepdeprived idiocracy kicks in and to make a poker compilation that I will create every 2 weeks, bi monthly.

I will watch this video before every session every day and reminisce about it.

I will meditate upon my failings and donkey nature to improve.

I will not make excuses for shoving 99 preflop vs a 4 bet and seeing KK. Because I spazzed like a dumbazzz.

I will get better.

I will get back to the sane, calculating machine I once was.

THE GRIND IS REAL. MAKING NEW GOALS AND ADVANCING MY STUDY SESSIONS OF MY FAILINGS.

Nice updates buddy. Gl with this, i always plan on doing sth similar, but lazyness always win. Subbed!

Very interesting bit of information here. I went to sleep last night thinking that my current winrate of 3.35bb/100 although is better than most, and also knowing full well that I spewed, miscalculated bet sizing and the fact that I haven't really ever played 8 tables of 6max at a time...plus the fact I got back to poker very recently...well I'm kind of disappointed in it tbh. But it's my fault.

It's my fault. You have more in your control with poker than you realize. So fix it.

Well, looking at my last session of 2136 hands, there are only 18 hands that ended up being over 40 BB's invested into the pot (actually 20 because you're playing vs another villain.)

This means that 2138 hands were less than 20 BB's invested - funny how this works. You get AA 10 times, 5 times everyone folds, 3 times villain folds to your cbet and out of the 2 remaining times, you might get one street of value. Maybe 2 if you're lucky. It's very rare where hands go to showdown.

It's really interesting to see this. What this means is that creating that perfect flop value bet based on villains ranges is paramount to creating a larger pot geometry for later streets when you flop a monster.

Also finding spots to cbet with a smaller flop size vs different opponents is paramount to increasing your winrate. You do not want to invest too much on your cbet bluff. 50% pot is very different than 60% pot and even more so vs 75% pot if you can get away with it.

Lesson learned from this hand



villain is 38/1 over a decent sample.

My flop sizing I feel here is just horrible. You play 8 tables, you hear BEEP BEEP. BEEP BEEP because another table is wanting your attention. You glance over and see you have a set so you bet quickly without thinking of what sizing vs villain's range is maximally good. So you bet the normal amount.

I could have gone .95cents even $1 maybe an argument could be made for potting it on a flop like this.

Here is a range that villain would continue with.

All Ax clubs. 66. All 10x. A9. 910. 106s. 96s. 98s. 108s. JJ. QQ. JQ. KQ probably. 77 and 88 call flop bet. 67s calls.

Plugging this into equilab that is a ghasping 202 combinations that would x/call this flop bet for a $1, $1.05 if you wanted to be honest.

.78 cents is just terrible. These are the things that I already know to be true, but it's nice to reevaluate the little things.

One extra bit of elaboration here. Let's say every 5000 hands you make a better bet sizing 5 times which all in all equals $1.50 more. What you also need to take into account is that now the pot is bigger on the turn and it allows you to bet a bigger size as well!!! This pot geometry is probably the most important fundamental theory that you could ever learn in micro stakes poker.

By the river, if you make your flop bet bigger when you can and the turn bet bigger, sometimes you can actually jam the river and it won't look out of place.

Now of course there were only 5 ALL in pots in 2186 hands this session but my gosh, the value that is being missed with a 78cent vs a 90, 95, $1 bet is enormous!!!

This works in reverse for decreasing cbet bluff sizings. If you double barrel, your turn bet is now smaller too because you made the flop cbet smaller...

This is the heart of the theory for crushing micro winrates for more than 5bb/100.

Now I will filter all hands that were 30 BB's or more and review them every week and if I find anything interesting I will include them into my video.

Go for it!!! Give yourself a nice 6 month goal to go from 2NL to 25NL or whatever it is! Study books, find a skype study group, get a free coach, review your hands and develop your game!

Most people can do it.

Also as someone who has put in probably 400,000 hands lifetime online and hundreds of hours live at casino, I would say if you can beat 10NL online then you can absolutely crush the 2/5 games at the casino (I was making $48/hour over a 6 month sample).

If you can beat 25NL for any winrate at all, then you can probably do very very well at the $1,000 casino games for 5/10.

If you can beat 100NL online then you could actually consider playing poker full time if you are lucky enough to not have to use your bankroll to fix life situations.

I'm liking how you're analyzing your play op... I'm at about 8bb/100 at nl25 on ignition over about 40k hands and I'm looking to plug value leaks myself. Personally I've found that for my roll, even with a decent cash win rate, my hourly is way better playing $5-$20 tournies so that's what I'm starting to focus on rather than trying to do both. But as far as improving your play goes (pf play etc) there's no substitute for cash... Establishing a win rate at 100+ is the best way to print online.

Over the last 5 mos I've ran $25 up to about 5k but I've withdrawn a lot leaving me only about a $600 br at the moment. I'm with you on the grind and yes it is very real. Don't stop nitting it up... You seem to be developing a disciplined strategy for the stakes you're playing, and if you stick to it I see no reason why you won't get that br to where you want it. Glgl

nice updates, keep up the good work!

Thanks! That's a solid winrate with a 'nice' sample size. Earlier in the thread I think I said I was pretty sure I could beat 10NL at this site for 8bb/100 - I realize 20,000 hands is a pretty small sample because if I win $90 tonight in a 3,000 hand session that changes the winrate drasticallly.

I think I should forget about winrates for now and just improve my game and review one hand at a time, one session at a time, one day at a time, one week at a time and continue crushing my off the table study game.

Many of the highest winrates you see of micro players are

1.) Not moving up.

2.) Probably playing a lot more tables than I am.

3.) PokerStars winrates which I guess is more difficult cause it's Stars and not as soft.

All valid points.

October 12th, 2016. 2.5 hours of poker. 1800 hands. Starting Bankroll $146. Ending Bankroll at $141 ($5 bonus cleared). -$10. 38000 hands total for the challenge.

8 tabling 10NL. +$51 over 24000 hands at 10NL.

Brutal session. Got bankroll up past $180 with steady ABC poker, a few donations from insane stuff like fish just turning total airballs into bluffs when I had good hands and then also just value towning.

Last 30 minutes I sunk 5 BI's...reviewing hands now. Nothing that seems out of the ordinary to be honest, just dumb stuff.

Got 99 in vs A10o to a crazy fish that 5 bet bluff shoved me (Had notes on him so 99 was a clear solid play.)

AA vs 70 BB stack fish that hit flush on river.

A10 vs 50BB fish on A66 board, fish had a 6.

TPTK with AQs on xxQ board, 6 turn got snap min raised, then fish bet 1/2 pot on river so I called was like wtf this is weird. Fish had Q6o. (lulz)

Flush over flush...yay.

TPTK of xK8 flop, brick turn, 9 river - Villain had 70 BB's at start of hand and shoves river, had 98 for 2 pair after I was barreling hard.

Rivered a straight, villain flopped a boat and slow played it lol , but was like 50 BB's so w/e.

AQ on AQ8 flop, fish had 88, 50 BB stack.

I'll post one hand, biggest pot lost today below.

I felt myself getting a bit tilted so I quit. I do not get tilted easily and it was not great tilt, but I felt this "Oh FML...wtf is this &#&%(#*&%()#&%*#( seriously!???" attitude coming on.

GRIND IS REAL. AND PAINFUL SOMETIMES. THE PAIN MAKES IT MORE REAL.

FEEL THE PAIN.

So the timer was running down, I had plenty of action in other tables so I was trying to manage this decision while running other hands. I was churning it over in my mind...would this guy have draw bluff shoves, and would they shove a boat or quads?

I made the decision that boat/quads was not a combo. QQ, yes. KK/AA probably not, I expect this to be shoved in my face pre.

So anything other than QQ? Well...villain was 45/22 3bet% of 8.3 and cbet % of 88 over 125 hands. Just seemed like pretty fishy stats.

I gave a looser range of QQ, AKs, A10s, KQs, 98s, AdQd, KQo

With that range (basically a 4 bet flat range that isn't shoving) , it is 50 vs 50 equity and I have probably 23% equity to call. Clear call as played.

I think I gotta add in all the draws, didn't even add in the Axdiamond combos. Perhaps even spazzed out airballs (running into so many of them today.)

Even vs QQ I'm 21% here so basically any extra combos I can add I already get to the equity needed.

I'm happy with my call. Very happy actually.

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As you can see, donations are pretty common at 10NL. They WILL spew their stacks to you. Words of wisdom for the day. lol.

(Not even sure all the donations got filed into the tracker, I remember a couple other ones...)