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12-07-2011 , 10:12 PM
I played 13.5 hrs today and lost $14. I put in a pretty lengthy session, was down almost 400 at one point so the end result is not too bad. I was reading some inspiring posts on this forum and kind of decided I want to work harder at playing longer and improving my play so I can move up. I honestly didn't play that well today but also wasn't picking up to many playable hands or flopping much. Toward the end of the session the game was excellent so I was compelled to stay and try and recoup some losses.

Here are a couple trainwreck bluff attempts-

4 handed, I'm in the bb with K9 loose player utg raises to 10 others fold I call. Effective stacks 120

Flop- A72
I check villain bets 10, I had been folding a lot pf so I felt I could rep an A so I c/r to 25, villain calls.

Turn- 8
Seems like a decent card for me as I pick up the 2nd nut fd and if villain has a lower pair than the A I could have overs. I check he bets 30, I c/r jam for 55 more. I should have realized stacks weren't really deep enough to have virtually any fold equity. Well it turns out I run into a brick wall as he snaps with A9, I'm drawing dead nh sir.

I think this line was slightly better than that last hand-

I'm btn with 86 have been folding everything for 3 rounds straight, 1 limp in ep, loose active player raise to 13 from lp which is a little bit smaller that he had been raising with premiums, I make it 40. The rest fold he calls. Effective stacks 200.

Flop- Q74
He checks, I bet 40 I was thinking that after folding for so long it must look like I have to have a hand here. Villain tanks for a bit then says "well I guess I'll give you the rest" and c/r 100 on top. I snap fold and he slaps down A10. nh sir. I don't know if he had some type of read on me or was just super tilted (I think he had been losing quite a bit).

So I guess I picked to wrong opponent to try and pull that move on, I obviously did not try and bluff him the rest of the night. I did end up sending him home when he squeezed pf to 110 pf over my 10 open and 4 callers. I stick in my 210 stack with AA and he calls.

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Originally Posted by JediPoker
Been following off and on, so you live close to the Oaks now? How far is your commute?
Yes, it is only about 15 minutes.

December 2011

Total hours played-34
Average hourly winrate- $13
Winnings- $440

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 918
Average hourly winrate- $11
Winnings- $10221
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12-08-2011 , 11:40 AM
I played 4.5 hrs today and lost $61. For the second session in a row I found myself digging a hole at the beginning of the session and trying to climb out for the rest of it. It is much less satisfying when I win a pot knowing I am am just offsetting loses that should have been avoided. I have really played sloppy lately and I am disappointed with my performance (breaking even over the last 200 hrs).

December 2011

Total hours played-38.5
Average hourly winrate- $10
Winnings- $379

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 922.5
Average hourly winrate- $11
Winnings- $10160
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12-08-2011 , 01:14 PM
Why do you play 13.5 hours session? That can't be +EV any way you slice it! You need to set a hour limit per session so that win, lose, or draw, you need to stop at a certain hour. For me, my limit is 8 hours, but I rarely ever play that long!!!! When I do play 8 hours session, I hate myself as I drive home bc I am tired and worn out!!!
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12-08-2011 , 02:52 PM
I just ran threw this thread, looks awesome. Cliffs? What limit are you playing now?
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12-09-2011 , 04:56 PM
I played 2 hrs today and won $221. I avoided any major mistakes and booked my best session of the month. I've kind of forgot about taking days off so I think that's what I need to do to clear my mind and come back refreshed for next week.

I'm also looking forward to spending time in Vegas on NYE, it was a blast last year so it should fun again this year with a few friends to hang with.

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Originally Posted by the_quiet_assassin
Why do you play 13.5 hours session? That can't be +EV any way you slice it! You need to set a hour limit per session so that win, lose, or draw, you need to stop at a certain hour. For me, my limit is 8 hours, but I rarely ever play that long!!!! When I do play 8 hours session, I hate myself as I drive home bc I am tired and worn out!!!
I was probably playing my C game but there were multiple big stacks at the table playing their F game so the game was just too juicy to quit. I really don't like playing longer than 8 hrs, but when there are nice people trying to stuff franklins in my wallet I stick around.

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Originally Posted by Rany
I just ran threw this thread, looks awesome. Cliffs? What limit are you playing now?
Cliffs-
-grinding 16 tables of micro stakes on FTP until BF
-unable to find meaningful employment so I took a shot at the live grind
-been to Vegas a few times with good experiences and think it would be a nice place to live

I'm at 1/2 and 1/3 for now as I hit a downswing/ breakeven stretch and my bankroll has dwindled.

I'm going to write a nice detailed review of my year with a bunch of various stats and graphs at the end of the month.

December 2011

Total hours played-40.5
Average hourly winrate- $15
Winnings- $600

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 924.5
Average hourly winrate- $11
Winnings- $10381
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12-11-2011 , 05:15 AM
I played 5 hrs today and won $251. I ran good today winning a big pot AA vs KK aipf and and cracking KK with 1010 aipf (50 effective stacks). I managed to avoid any huge costly mistakes which I think is the key to getting out of this slump.

December 2011

Total hours played-45.5
Average hourly winrate- $19
Winnings- $851

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 929.5
Average hourly winrate- $11
Winnings- $10632
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12-11-2011 , 06:07 AM
At the risk of asking for too personal of information: I believe you said you moved closer to the oaks so I'm guessing you aren't living with your parents anymore (no more rent free living). So my question is can you give us some cost of living/expenses factored into winnings so we can get a good idea of where your BR and I guess true "net hourly" are at?

lots of threads out here.. correct me if I am wrong on any of this information...

Gl man
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12-11-2011 , 07:33 AM
Pure, I hesitate to ask, but would you be interested in a couple hours of free coaching?

I was a 2.5ptbb/100 winner at 100NL over a million and more hands, and when I played well (on stakes) I was more like a 7ptbb/100 winner over those few hundred thousand hands.

If you are, PM me.
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12-12-2011 , 01:27 PM
I played 4 hrs today and won $152. I picked up AA a couple times and did get some chips in the pot pf and got donked into on the flop but I couldn't get much more than that.

I'm feeling a little more confident in my reads again and this month is shaping up to be better results wise than my last 3 sub par months so long as I don't get doom switched.

I also noticed an odd coincidence, I won exactly 784 in November which is the same amount EVhero (Canadian mtt grinder with a youtube channel) won. I just thought that was weird.

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Originally Posted by effrum
At the risk of asking for too personal of information: I believe you said you moved closer to the oaks so I'm guessing you aren't living with your parents anymore (no more rent free living). So my question is can you give us some cost of living/expenses factored into winnings so we can get a good idea of where your BR and I guess true "net hourly" are at?

lots of threads out here.. correct me if I am wrong on any of this information...

Gl man
I'm renting a room for 550/mo. I have been trying to keep my over all expenses around 1k/mo.

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Originally Posted by gimmetheloot
Pure, I hesitate to ask, but would you be interested in a couple hours of free coaching?

I was a 2.5ptbb/100 winner at 100NL over a million and more hands, and when I played well (on stakes) I was more like a 7ptbb/100 winner over those few hundred thousand hands.

If you are, PM me.
pm'd

December 2011

Total hours played- 50
Average hourly winrate- $20
Winnings- $1003

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 933.5
Average hourly winrate- $12
Winnings- $10784

Last edited by pure_aggression; 12-12-2011 at 01:35 PM.
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12-12-2011 , 01:43 PM
solid read, best of luck
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12-13-2011 , 06:29 PM
I played 5 hrs today and won $85. I was at a great table the whole session.

Here are a couple sticky spots-

The pot was straddled and also a blind minraise (1/2/4/8) I pick up 1010 in mp and make it 45 over a caller and an all in for 7. It folds back to the guy who put in the dead 8 and he intsa raises 100, he looked super excited. Folds to me, he has 46 behind and I tank fold. Sure enough he had picked up AA.

Straddled pot, 2 ep callers and I raise to 20 with AK, lp tilted villain goes all in for 90, straddle calls, ep short stack calls. I have 180 left and straddler covers, I sense he was pretty strong but with the 2 others in the pot with likely mediocre hands I decided I had to go with it and ship in the rest.

The board runs out AK1063, shorty takes the main with QJ, and I won the rest and made like 170.

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Originally Posted by Scruffey
solid read, best of luck
TY

December 2011

Total hours played- 55
Average hourly winrate- $20
Winnings- $1088

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 938.5
Average hourly winrate- $12
Winnings- $10869
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12-14-2011 , 10:45 AM
Looks like a decent December so far. Do the games get fishier around the holidays or do you think you're playing better or running better?
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12-14-2011 , 01:51 PM
Nice. Keep up the good work!!!
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12-14-2011 , 02:02 PM
gl man
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12-16-2011 , 09:33 PM
I played 5 hrs today and won $46. I didn't play any big or interesting pots. I'm going to try and play a couple long sessions this weekend.

December 2011

Total hours played- 60
Average hourly winrate- $19
Winnings- $1134

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 943.5
Average hourly winrate- $12
Winnings- $10915
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12-16-2011 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyCopter
Looks like a decent December so far. Do the games get fishier around the holidays or do you think you're playing better or running better?
No, I haven't noticed a difference in the games. I am just running better and making a few less mistakes.
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12-18-2011 , 07:44 AM
I played 8 hrs today and won $297. I got in a solid session, played a little 1/2 and a little 2/4. My reads were on point which allowed me to wiggle out of some tough spots.

I just wanted to mention tilt for a minute. I really think I have almost entirely eliminated it from my game. I think it is partially from having taken every kind of sick beat imaginable and understanding that losing pots is a big part of the game. Also the slow pace of live play has made it easy for me. By the time the next hand is dealt any fleeting feelings of tilt are already gone. I know when I played online 500 hands/hr, the beats would sometimes compound and there is no 1 minute break to wait for the next deal it is either keep on going or start to exit all the tables and I did struggle sometimes. Now I see it happen just about every session, a player (sometimes an otherwise good player) starts taking 1 or 2 beats and then they just starting loosening up and playing terrible.

December 2011

Total hours played- 68
Average hourly winrate- $21
Winnings- $1440

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 951.5
Average hourly winrate- $12
Winnings- $11221
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12-18-2011 , 12:36 PM
OP, mad respect for putting in so many hours in very boring live poker.

Keep it up, following
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12-18-2011 , 12:44 PM
Nice post about tilting. You just have to treat poker as a long journey so don't let any one hand deter you from your journey. Keep trucking my friend!
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12-18-2011 , 02:21 PM
Great December so far. Keep it up!
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12-19-2011 , 10:35 AM
I played 3.5 hrs today and won $192. It is nice to wrap up the year on a heater. The 2/4 line up was excellent but the game didn't last too much longer after I arrived.

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Originally Posted by McShipit
OP, mad respect for putting in so many hours in very boring live poker.

Keep it up, following
Right on.

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Originally Posted by the_quiet_assassin
Nice post about tilting. You just have to treat poker as a long journey so don't let any one hand deter you from your journey. Keep trucking my friend!
You are absolutely right.

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Originally Posted by Dan_The_Pro
Great December so far. Keep it up!
Yes, thank you.

December 2011

Total hours played- 71.5
Average hourly winrate- $23
Winnings- $1632

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 955
Average hourly winrate- $12
Winnings- $11413
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12-20-2011 , 08:39 AM
I played 3 hrs today and won $109. I played alright except for one hand where I made a ridiculous fold on the river with 3rd pair to a small bet into a dry side pot. That was definitely a face palm moment.

December 2011

Total hours played- 74.5
Average hourly winrate- $23
Winnings- $1741

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 958
Average hourly winrate- $12
Winnings- $11522
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12-20-2011 , 11:23 AM
Why is opponent betting into a dry side pot with air on the river?
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12-24-2011 , 06:40 AM
I played 7 hrs today and won $60. I've been a little sick the last few days so I didn't feel like playing. Today I started out down 200 but managed to scrape it back, the action was somewhat thin so I was bouncing around tables trying to find a good spot.

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Originally Posted by DonkeyCopter
Why is opponent betting into a dry side pot with air on the river?
I'm not sure I thought it had to be a value bet but I mucked getting like 6 to 1 and he won the showdown vs shorty with 4th pair... terrible fold.

December 2011

Total hours played- 82.5
Average hourly winrate- $22
Winnings- $1801

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 966.5
Average hourly winrate- $12
Winnings- $11582
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12-25-2011 , 07:01 AM
I only played 1 hr today and won $109. I just thought I would take it easy today so I just played a quick session. Merry Christmas to everyone. By the way, don't buy into all that consumerism and materialism and bull**** marketing that is fed to you. The holidays should be about friends and family.

I am still confident I can hit 1k hrs played by the end of the year. I'll post a bunch of compiled stats too because I find that stuff interesting. I wish there was pt3 for live poker... maybe someday.

December 2011

Total hours played- 83.5
Average hourly winrate- $23
Winnings- $1910

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 967.5
Average hourly winrate- $12
Winnings- $11691
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