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10-12-2011 , 07:48 AM
Sht you are a train!
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10-13-2011 , 07:12 AM
I played 8 hrs today and won $292. Today I played better than the last couple days and my reads were spot on. I had a good steak and shrimp dinner at Ellis Island. The Dew Tour is in town and is right down the street from where we are staying, I think it starts tomorrow so I'll definitely check it out.

Here are a couple hands-

1010 in the sb I make it 12 over 3 limps and get 4 callers including the big blind. 250 effective stacks.

Flop- K98
I lead out for 20 into 57. I had not been too active so my image is tight. I get one guy who tanks for a minute then calls, I put him on a draw.

Turn- 5
I fire 60 into 97 and he mucks.

Hand 2-

I've got KK in the bb I make it 15 over 3 limps, I get 1 ep caller. 150 effective stacks.

Flop- J75
I bet 20 into 30 and he min raises to 40. I tank call since to board is pretty dry and I can conceal the stregth of my hand.

Turn- Q
I check, villain bets 20. I tank for a little bit then ship it. He calls with AJ

River- 2

I also played a sick 3 way cooler hand luckly it only cost me about a 100. I flopped top set and checked it. The turn gave villain 1 2nd set and villain 2 broadway, no help on the river.

It was nice to book a winning day here in Vegas, plenty of more poker to be played. I am looking forward to the weekend and juicier tables.

October 2011

Total hours played- 38.5
Pace- 62
Average hourly winrate- $0
Winnings- $4

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 701.5
Average hourly winrate- $13
Winnings- $8771
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10-13-2011 , 10:20 AM
stop slowplaying! And make sure you always have the max buyin for the table. ie if it is 300, then always have 300 in chips in front of you
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10-14-2011 , 06:16 AM
I played 4 hrs today and won $683. I ran good today and caught some cards and got paid off nicely. Including what I won online, I have passed the 10k mark on the year which is pretty sick.

I got to see some bmx at the Mountain Dew Tour. There are a few more free events to check out the next few days.





There was also some indy cars rolling down the strip tonight they were very loud.

October 2011

Total hours played- 43.5
Pace- 67
Average hourly winrate- $16
Winnings- $679

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 705.5
Average hourly winrate- $13
Winnings- $9454
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10-15-2011 , 06:46 AM
I played 4 hrs today and won $280. I only played half the day again, I will put in full days tomorrow and Sunday then another half day on Monday before heading back to the Bay Area.

I am running hot, a big reversal from when I first got here. I did make one conscious adjustment, I decided to tighten up and not run any big bluffs. So I've mostly been simply betting for value and occasionally pushing everyone out on the flop when I know they missed.

Got to see some freestyle motocross, they did some backflips, hand stands and other cool tricks.



Here are a few more pics











October 2011

Total hours played- 47
Pace- 72
Average hourly winrate- $21
Winnings- $959

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 709
Average hourly winrate- $14
Winnings- $9734
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10-15-2011 , 07:59 AM
Nice streak bro! Hope you keep it up.
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10-16-2011 , 05:43 AM
I played 7 hrs today and won $335. Another solid winning day. I think I am very good at profiling new opponents very quickly by just watching a few hands, I think I get a read on most people before they figure me out. There are so many tables to choose from out here there is no reason to stay at a bad table for even 1 hand. I have been changing tables quite frequently. I enjoy walking from casino to casino as opposed to staying in one place all day. It breaks things up and gives me chance to clear my head.

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Originally Posted by the_quiet_assassin
Nice streak bro! Hope you keep it up.
Thanks man!

October 2011

Total hours played- 54
Pace- 77
Average hourly winrate- $24
Winnings- $1294

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 716
Average hourly winrate- $14
Winnings- $10069
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10-17-2011 , 03:01 AM
GL bro!

I'm gonna do something similar to you starting January 1st, except at 2/5, hoping to move up to 5/10 by 2013

Great Thread, keep it up!
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10-17-2011 , 06:54 AM
I played 7.5 hrs today and won $135. This was my last night. I got my fix of Vegas for awhile. I couldn't have hoped to run any better than I did. I keep my streak of always leaving Vegas a winner going, it has been 6 trips so far. I didn't give a cent to the casinos playing any -ev pit games or slots. I had a great time hanging with my buddy and also met a few people here. I probably won't be back until around New Years when I plan to be going with a bigger group.

Here is a hand I played-

I raise to 8 utg with J7, we are 5 handed and both behind me call, blinds fold. Stacks are 200 effective.

Flop- 953-
I bet 20 into 24 and one villain calls

Turn- 7
Perfect card to barrel so I bet 60 into 67, villain thinks then says "I know I'm good" and open mucks 88

Quote:
Originally Posted by mp2012
GL bro!

I'm gonna do something similar to you starting January 1st, except at 2/5, hoping to move up to 5/10 by 2013

Great Thread, keep it up!
Right on, glad you like the thread. GL with moving up to 5/10, that is where I am aiming as well.

October 2011

Total hours played- 61.5
Pace- 83
Average hourly winrate- $23
Winnings- $1429

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 723.5
Average hourly winrate- $14
Winnings- $10204
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10-17-2011 , 10:09 AM
Nice. You have passed your $10K threshold. You are well on your way to Vegas. Keep crushing. Nice aggression with the J7 on the turn. I like your style.
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10-17-2011 , 03:37 PM
About the J7 hand-
I like the raise if your table selection is as good as you say it is. it takes a very special kind of table to make J7s UTG with 100BBs a good idea. Even 5 handed I think i'd rather play it from one more seat down. Yes I'm nittastic.

The play:
Obv good C-bet the flop. Do you Cbet that large with made hands as well? Don't let that become a tell.
Turn play. What cards are you willing to barrel? a 7 seems like an odd barrel card because it almost definitely didn't give you the best hand unless villain has qtcc or something similar.
It also doesn't rate to have helped your opponent much, OR YOU. So are you bluffing 100% of turn cards? Has this villain folded made hands before? Has he folded draws on the turn?
it seems to me that any card 5-T should NOT be barreled as on this flop facing action those cards are going to help your opponent more often than you, and he won't be folding. Any 2,3,4, Q-A should be safer. I also don't think I'm barreling clubs because there aren't many worse flush draws in his range and he can value cut himself thinking is top pair is good or overpair against your 'scared' check.

Note- Remember that being results oriented works both ways. Just because you won a pot doesn't mean you can't learn from it.
Note2- Also nh, good read, nice pot.
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10-18-2011 , 03:33 AM
I'm having trouble reconciling "I couldn't have run any better than I did" with "I won $135" at 1/2 no limit. If you're running good and that's your win, you must be missing value somewhere IMO....
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10-18-2011 , 07:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerZombie
About the J7 hand-
I like the raise if your table selection is as good as you say it is. it takes a very special kind of table to make J7s UTG with 100BBs a good idea. Even 5 handed I think i'd rather play it from one more seat down. Yes I'm nittastic.

The play:
Obv good C-bet the flop. Do you Cbet that large with made hands as well? Don't let that become a tell.
Turn play. What cards are you willing to barrel? a 7 seems like an odd barrel card because it almost definitely didn't give you the best hand unless villain has qtcc or something similar.
It also doesn't rate to have helped your opponent much, OR YOU. So are you bluffing 100% of turn cards? Has this villain folded made hands before? Has he folded draws on the turn?
it seems to me that any card 5-T should NOT be barreled as on this flop facing action those cards are going to help your opponent more often than you, and he won't be folding. Any 2,3,4, Q-A should be safer. I also don't think I'm barreling clubs because there aren't many worse flush draws in his range and he can value cut himself thinking is top pair is good or overpair against your 'scared' check.

Note- Remember that being results oriented works both ways. Just because you won a pot doesn't mean you can't learn from it.
Note2- Also nh, good read, nice pot.
Thanks for the well thought out response. Opening J7 utg is a little questionable, I hadn't played a hand in a while and felt the J7 was thin but playable. All of the villains were playing kind of tight and definitely capable of making lay downs.

My standard cbet is between 1/2 pot and full pot (My most commonly used size is 2/3 pot), so my bet sizing shouldn't be giving away too much info about the strength of my hand.

I was actually planning to barrel the turn regardless just based on the strength of my fd plus with the reluctant call on the flop I knew I had some kind of fold equity. The 7 gives me 5 more probable outs if I get called by a better hand so I can't feel to bad if called. My turn bet is hard to call even by a 9 because he knows I am likely betting the last 100 on the river.

I always think over a hand after receiving new info at showdown. Did I take the best line? Could I have won more had I played it differently? Would he have folded to more pressure?

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Originally Posted by buckminster1
I'm having trouble reconciling "I couldn't have run any better than I did" with "I won $135" at 1/2 no limit. If you're running good and that's your win, you must be missing value somewhere IMO....
Maybe I exaggerated a little, I guess I could have run better. I just meant that I did run over EV because I only lost 1 all in the whole trip. Each time I got it in I was way ahead but I must have dodged atleast 1 or 2 outs every time. The 2k upswong is my best streak of the year.
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10-18-2011 , 08:41 PM
a good utg range is all pps and AK, sometimes AQ
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10-18-2011 , 09:30 PM
Okay, J7s utg was not questionable it was a clear fold pf. I need to study a little more on short handed play.
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10-19-2011 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pure_aggression
Okay, J7s utg was not questionable it was a clear fold pf. I need to study a little more on short handed play.

if you are going to be a big winner i think you have to be able to play multiple combinations of cards from every spot on the table.

no one knows what cards you have.

i 3-bet pre with 68o last night out of the SB ... got called by a straddler and got three streets of value on a Q64 flop. turn 2; river 9. i bet every street and wound up doubling up against a 4. know your opponents. i am not saying it was a great or even good play. it was table dependent and image dependent. got good action every time had anything the rest of the night at the table.
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10-21-2011 , 05:01 AM
I played 5 hrs today and lost $139. There was actually a 4.0 earthquake that hit Oakland during the session, pretty cool. I can't remember the last time I felt an earthquake. I didn't pick up too many hands. The hands I did play I flopped top pair and bet out then surrendered when later streets brought straights and flushes.

I got into 1 tough spot when I 3bet JJ vs a loose opener to 50 and got 4bet huge essestially making me either stick in my last 150 or fold. I decided to lay it down though it really could go either way. With queens in that spot I would probably stack off so I was right below the threshold.

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Originally Posted by ibelieveinkolb
if you are going to be a big winner i think you have to be able to play multiple combinations of cards from every spot on the table.

no one knows what cards you have.

i 3-bet pre with 68o last night out of the SB ... got called by a straddler and got three streets of value on a Q64 flop. turn 2; river 9. i bet every street and wound up doubling up against a 4. know your opponents. i am not saying it was a great or even good play. it was table dependent and image dependent. got good action every time had anything the rest of the night at the table.
You are right that what you hold doesn't matter unless you reach showdown. There are many times you can just play a situation and know that you are either going to get everyone to fold or just give up at some point without ever reaching showdown.

It is good to be skilled enough to manuever in tough spots oop, but sometimes there is just not much you can do besides losing the minimum.

October 2011

Total hours played- 66.5
Pace- 103
Average hourly winrate- $19
Winnings- $1290

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 728.5
Average hourly winrate- $14
Winnings- $10065
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10-25-2011 , 03:48 AM
I played 6 hrs today and won $125. The 2/4 game was very good today. Unfortunately I wasn't able to capitalize because of the lack of playable cards. I lost a big pot stacking off with Queens into Kings. I won a nice pot after flopping the nut flush and got paid by a baby flush. The action was just so sick probably the best line up I've seen in quite some time, I hope to see the same villains tomorrow.

Obviously I am way behind pace as usual to meet my 160 hr monthly goal. I just don't have it in me to play that much poker. 100 hrs seems to be my sweet spot so as long as I reach that I can't feel too bad.

October 2011

Total hours played- 72.5
Pace- 124
Average hourly winrate- $20
Winnings- $1415

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 734.5
Average hourly winrate- $14
Winnings- $10190
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10-28-2011 , 05:23 AM
I played 5 hrs today and lost $352. I felt good about the way I played. I was really focused and making good reads. I was flopping pretty good but got outdrawn in a few key pots. I think I could have sized my raises slight bigger in a couple spots something like 4x instead of 3x.

The tables were very dead for the first couple hrs but it only takes one action player to loosen up the whole table. A guy came in and started shipping stacks with bottom pair and stuff like that and the table was pretty good after that. He stacked a few people and they went on tilt.

Since 160 hrs is well out of reach for this month I'll just adjust my target pace down to reflect my ammended goal of hitting 100 hrs. I am checking out a couple rooms for rent that are a few blocks from the Oaks. Living closer will give me more time to grind and save me $12 per session I currently spend on transit. So if all goes well I will be in a much better spot to put in some serious time at the tables and grow my bankroll.

October 2011

Total hours played- 77.5
Pace- 87
Average hourly winrate- $14
Winnings- $1063

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 739.5
Average hourly winrate- $13
Winnings- $9838
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10-28-2011 , 06:32 AM
dude, u need to stop this bull**** of driving 3 hrs and playing for 2 hrs. If your gonna do that, just cut those days out, watch some FR NL videos from some good players on CR or something, and workout, and go in the next day and put in solid 6-8 hr sessions. You are just burning time and money doing that.
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10-28-2011 , 10:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmetheloot
dude, u need to stop this bull**** of driving 3 hrs and playing for 2 hrs. If your gonna do that, just cut those days out, watch some FR NL videos from some good players on CR or something, and workout, and go in the next day and put in solid 6-8 hr sessions. You are just burning time and money doing that.

AGREED
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10-28-2011 , 04:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmetheloot
dude, u need to stop this bull**** of driving 3 hrs and playing for 2 hrs. If your gonna do that, just cut those days out, watch some FR NL videos from some good players on CR or something, and workout, and go in the next day and put in solid 6-8 hr sessions. You are just burning time and money doing that.
You are absolutely right it is a huge leak, I've been waking up and leaving the house too late to get in full days. Relying on public transportation sucks because everything stops running at midnight so I am forced to leave when I should be staying in good games. It is ridiculous, I know, and shows a lack of self discipline. Closer proximity should mostly take care the problem. My work ethic was good in Vegas when the poker rooms were just a 30 min walk away.
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10-29-2011 , 04:47 AM
I played 5 hrs today and lost $506. I had another rough day in 2/4 game.

Here are a couple hands-

I've got J6 in the bb, 3 mp limpers and the sb completes I check. Effective stacks 215

Flop- 966
I lead for 15 into 15 and get 3 callers including the sb.

Turn- 3
I fire 75 into 75, folds around to the sb who c/r to 175. This villain doesn't bluff so the worst he could have here is a 6. My kicker isn't great but there are still a lot of 6s I beat. I sigh and shrug then stick in my last 121.

River- Q
he flips 63 nice hand sir.

Is there any way I could've gotten away here? I got home and stoved it, here are a couple scenarios, what do you think?


Board: 6h 6s 9c 3d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.500% 29.02% 08.48% 498 145.50 { Jc6d }
Hand 1: 62.500% 54.02% 08.48% 927 145.50 { 99, 33, A6s, K6s, Q6s, J6s, T6s, 96s, 86s, 76s, 63s, A6o, K6o, Q6o, J6o, T6o, 96o, 86o, 76o, 63o }

Board: 6h 6s 9c 3d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 11.832% 07.62% 04.21% 57 31.50 { Jc6d }
Hand 1: 88.168% 83.96% 04.21% 628 31.50 { 99, 33, A6s, K6s, 63s, A6o, K6o, 63o }

I pick up 1010 in the HJ with 5 limpers in front of me and pop it to 35. Only sb calls and loose villain to my immediate right calls both are stuck in the game for quite a bit. They are both relatively aggro and would no doubt 3bet with JJ+. sb has 180, mp has 202 I cover.

Flop-
882
sb checks, mp bets 60 into 129. sb looks uninterested. I study mp for a minute 8x and 22 are in his range but he wasn't breathing heavy or have a throbbing juggular so I don't give him credit for out flopping me. I put him on a fd or broadway cards, possibly a smaller pocket pair or a lone 2. I raise 100, he thinks for a minute then calls.

Turn-
4
Villain bets his last 7 and I go into the tank... jk I snap.

River-
6
Villain flips A9 nice hand sir.

Here is a graph of my 90 hr shot at 2/4.


I feel I am +EV in most line ups and I think I could probably make atleast 20/hr long term I just need to have my big hands hold up. I'll grinding 1/2 to rebuild and hopefully be rolled to take another shot asap.


October 2011

Total hours played- 82.5
Pace- 90
Average hourly winrate- $7
Winnings- $557

2011 YTD

Total hours played- 744.5
Average hourly winrate- $13
Winnings- $9332

Last edited by pure_aggression; 10-29-2011 at 04:55 AM.
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10-29-2011 , 09:18 AM
With the J6 hand, you bet too big on the flop and the turn and got stuck to call the AI on the turn. You could have bet a little smaller on the flop like $10 and alot smaller on the turn like $25 to control the pot size. As played you had no choice but to call on the turn. You could just c/c each streak, which is what I would have done. That's why i hate to play in the SB and BB. I almost never ever call in the SB just to complete pre if there is no raise bc I see no point in paying another $1 or another $3 in a 2/5 game just to see the flop. I realize this J6 hand you were in the BB so you had no choice but to call pre. I actually like it when people raise my blinds so I can just fold and stay out of trouble, or alternatively make a play and 3-bet to take it down. hihihh

As for the TT hand, you made the right play but got the wrong result. However, IMO in small stakes poker, reading your opponent is way way over-rated. IMO, what's more important is bet sizing, not physical tells. Villain could easily have JJ, QQ or a dry 8 with that big bet on the flop. You obviously made the right play by 3-betting on the flop. I play my hand closer to the vest so I would have probably folded here and wait for a better spot. But that's just me.
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10-30-2011 , 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by the_quiet_assassin
With the J6 hand, you bet too big on the flop and the turn and got stuck to call the AI on the turn. You could have bet a little smaller on the flop like $10 and alot smaller on the turn like $25 to control the pot size. As played you had no choice but to call on the turn.
I don't quite understand the math around the savings here if he's betting smaller. As played, he stuck $90 into the pot (flop+turn), rather than if, as you say, $40 (f+t) would be a $50 savings, but how does that make him less pot committed? Also, with $75 on the turn, betting 1/3, or $25, would give villain 4:1 for a turn call; good odds?

As for villain's call on the flop, and the raise on the turn, 99 was my first guess for him. You flopped "trips", not a "set", a big difference, and this is always worse. If he had 99, however, he's already flopped a Boat.

It sounds like your gut was telling you that you were beat (based on your knowledge of this foe). The gut is often correct, imo.
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