I've made $150 so far in the last month. Trying to get $320 though before I quit.

So you 'made $150' as in you've already sold a heap of play chips and have $150 of real money?

ya it's in my bank account.

Cash it out and rub it on your titties

Obviously the best thing to do at this point...!!! Enjoy dem mad stacks!

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This definitely is an upswing for only 6k hands, but even at the highest stakes (25k/50k 6max deep), anyone decent can beat the games at 10-20 bb/100.

Just started trying this out, stars seems a lot easier, full tilt is full of nits at 5/10

I found this thread a few weeks ago and decided to dust off the old account and practice some 4 tabling, being a 1-table recreational small stakes MTT and SNG player on Carbon.

When I ran through the FTP 5/10 full ring tables I found 2-6 players all-in preflop on what seemed like 70% of the hands. At 25/50 it dropped down to 1-4 players all-in pre on ~40% percent of hands. I wouldn't exactly call that nitty, though it could be looser on Stars for all I know.

I'm playing 300/600 ATM on a 2M roll and this is the first level that I've noticed what I would call nits, which to me would be a VPIP of <15% 6 handed and a single digit VPIP in full ring (300/600 is almost all 6 max though).

No money in play money, everyone's solid.



Zy

Okay, due to a variety of things, I dropped off of play entirely until today. I went up 1.5 million on FTP today at 1k/2k and it continues to be trivially easy. I honestly don't think I want to play 6-max at all anymore though, the last downswing is still pretty fresh and the abundance of information in full-ring just makes the game feel better for me.

At any rate, another piece of information for you play money grinders out there, it seems that PokerStars is now offering high stakes play money games as well. REALLY high stakes too. The largest stakes for full ring seem to be 50k/100k and the 6-max tables top out at 500k/1Million. There is NO equivalent to King of the Hill however, as the heads-up stakes top out at like 100/200. Furthermore, there are bunches of uber-high stakes games going for Omaha as well, which may interest people because there really isn't much action going down on Full Tilt. The negatives of course are the limit to 5 cash tables (or 1 ZOOM table), 3 SnGs, and any number of MTTs running simultaneously (MTTs are useless mostly though because there are never enough of them running at large play stakes).

Now I don't know how the market for Stars chips is, but I always kinda assumed that the reason there wasn't any market for Stars chips was because the max stakes were really low and the max amount (20 million) was similarly low. Now that those issues have been ironed out, and because you can transfer play money very easily from one person to another without chip dumping, you might should give Stars a bit of action too. I just started and I have gotten up to 170k from the 1k that they give you.

FYI, while I didn't have a particular money goal, I have now decided that I want to buy an off contract Nexus phone (I stepped on my 4G LTE phone, so I am working of an old ass iPhone 3GS right now) with whatever I can win from selling these play chips off, so my tentative goal now is to accumulate enough play chips to grab $350 + tax. Go me!

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I used to play the play money tables. I only ever played the 6-Max games so I went from 25/50 all the way up the the KOH. Three hours a day 5 days a week and I normally won 80 million on the 6 -Max deep tables. Couldn't sell as fast as I won unfortunately. I then played HU on KOH when you could buyin for 100 million. I was ok but then they cut the table down and I found that I wasn't good at playing HU 50 BB deep.

My Impression of 6 - Max

25/50 - This level is very easy. Just play like a TAG and don't slow play ever and you win big

300/600 - You raise and all of a sudden you get folders. It took me by surprise first!. Top pair on the flop isn't the nuts at this level

3000/6000 - I found it about the same as 300/600. Players folded at bit more when you raised

25,000/50,000 - There is a massive jump in class at this level. This level is between nl$10 and nl$25

50,000/100,000 - Another big jump in class here. I would say all the winning players here can beat nl$50 Hu and some can beat nl$400 and perhaps higher


I decided to go back to basics due to poor showings with 50BB stacks. I played some hands at all levels. Play money win rates are always bigger due to the lack of rake. I think my HU game is getting better and I have enough bankroll from play money to take some shots.



5/10


25/50


100/200


300/600


1000/2000


3000/6000

just fyi, at 3k/6k theres no way you won 300bb/100 hands. Something ****ed up there. achieving that winrate is impossible even against complete noobs.

If you are winning that much, then that means for every 15 hands you play, you win 45 bb. How can you sustain that for 5k hands even on a sick heater...

My Bad

The 1000/2000 should be the 3000/6000 54.54 BB/100

The 3000/6000 should be the 5/10 271.27 BB/100

The 5/10 should be the 1000/2000 75.56BB/100

It seems I did run well.

Its incredible that I dropped 30 buyins on this graph at hand 2,300.

Still haven't played a ton more, as life keeps getting in the way. However, I can say that I cashed out 25 million chips for $100. Transaction went just fine and is in my bank account. Not bad for just playing for fun and all. It has kinda stalled my ascension however, so I will be stuck on the 1k/2k tables for awhile yet still, but there isn't much a rush and truthfully there just isn't enough action at the 10k/20k tables for it to be a big deal.

I am still working the Stars roll upward. I now have about half a million in chips. The hardest part seems to be the limit of 5 tables.

thats interesting 25m for $100. any tips on the transaction process? I was using paypal for the most part, and rly judging buyers with care.

i think 1k/2k is hard, so im impressed u are beating that lvl at a good pace.

I realized how the playchip pyramid worked.
at like 1/2 all the way to 100/200 => complete valuetowns
at like 300/600-10k/20k => nits (they moved up b/c their nit style valuetowned the lower stake noobs) SO BORING TO PLAY WITH!!!

at like 25k/50k, aggro fish/life time players (those who had winning style against 10/20k nits, but still sucked at poker since its play money OR played for so long with 2bb/100 winrate that they managed to move up over years of playing)

Full Tilt - |50000/100000 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 199.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (SB): 220.53 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J Q

Hero raises to 2 BB, BB raises to 6 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 2 players) K T 6
BB bets 7.5 BB, Hero raises to 20 BB, BB calls 12.5 BB

Turn: (52 BB, 2 players) 6
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (52 BB, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets 37 BB, BB raises to 96 BB, Hero raises to 194.53 BB and is all-in, BB calls 77.5 BB and is all-in




Pretty sick one. 1st hand versus this guy on KOH too, its always good to establish an invincible image at the getgo.

do sites like tiltchips really pay out?

Yes, many sites actually DO pay out.

1k/2k is a joke honestly. It is very, VERY easy. First of all, I don't know when you are playing, but there are plenty of insanely fishy players on those tables. Moreover, you DO have very nitty players but they are pretty easy to avoid because of how nitty the players are.

There are plenty of opportunities to valuetown the **** out of opponents, but this level is also filled with opponents that roll stats like 29/3 (call way too much and don't raise often enough) and have insanely high fold-to-cbet numbers. These guys don't require valuetowning. If you get into virtually ANY flop with them you can cbet half-pot to 3/4's pot and expect a fold when they don't hit their hands, which is most of the time. Position doesn't even matter. If they stick with the hand and you don't have a set or better, stop playing it any further (though most often they will raise their made hands immediately, as they only get chips from the whales on the site).

If it wasn't for the fact that I decided to cash out $100 worth, I would have been pretty close to playing those 10k/20k tables. Honestly, they don't look that much more difficult. If you find them hard, then you are just leveling yourself a bit. Just go for fat-value hands, stay out of the way of nits when they get into the hands, and cbet all the 29/3 donks off their hands like 85%+ of the time.

Yeah I realized its not hard, maybe I just encountered reallly nitty tables.

I mean as a HU and short-handed player, I just cant stand full ring nit fest. Like in order to play well I need to get reads on ppl, but at the same time I want to play hands and bluff lol. Mostly the button moves around so slow in fr that I never get an opportunity to steal.

Obv playing like 8 tables will solve that problem, but then I'd rather just 4 table 6max 25/50k, it is same number of hands/hour anyways with better winrate.

One billion Started on December 5th, 2012 at 1k. Reached 1 billion in ~11 months. now what to do with all that play dough...

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purely for the historical record and the most thinly of veiled brags: i rang up a billion in FTP play money winnings in just under seven days. shippppppp.