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10-14-2016 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cheltNAM
Every hand was misplayed. Villains played them fine, you should def drop out of uni
AJ was ok tbh

OP as much as I respect your confidence and tenacity, I really think you should listen to the guys in this thread and not put all your eggs into one basket with Poker. You could go ahead and prove us all wrong, but the chances of that working smoothly without you needing a backup plan is really really slim. Unless you have savings to fall back on, dropping out of uni without a backup plan is really going to mess with you in the future :/
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10-14-2016 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cheltNAM
Every hand was misplayed. Villains played them fine, you should def drop out of uni
This was pretty helpful. Ty man

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Originally Posted by Clanty
AJ was ok tbh

OP as much as I respect your confidence and tenacity, I really think you should listen to the guys in this thread and not put all your eggs into one basket with Poker. You could go ahead and prove us all wrong, but the chances of that working smoothly without you needing a backup plan is really really slim. Unless you have savings to fall back on, dropping out of uni without a backup plan is really going to mess with you in the future :/
Thanks man

Well... The title certainly did it's job.
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10-14-2016 , 07:35 PM
Think if I went wrong anywhere on the first hand it was ott calling the overbet. I didn't really know if villain would overbet turn with QQ KK AA and I really didn't expect villain to overbet turn with JJ...

I don't really see how I could play the second hand any differently.

3rd hand I dunno if I should fold. I mean I rather bluff catch with 66 than 77/88/99/ because I actually block some of his made hands with 66. I don't think this is a river spot where villain is always going to have value.
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10-14-2016 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by EaziiMoniezz
Think if I went wrong anywhere on the first hand it was ott calling the overbet. I didn't really know if villain would overbet turn with QQ KK AA and I really didn't expect villain to overbet turn with JJ...

I don't really see how I could play the second hand any differently.

3rd hand I dunno if I should fold. I mean I rather bluff catch with 66 than 77/88/99/ because I actually block some of his made hands with 66. I don't think this is a river spot where villain is always going to have value.
1st hand is a fold pre bro

2nd hand is fine

3rd hand is a fine pre, too, imo. Ignore your 11% bb vs UTG 3b stat as that's probably going to be 1/9 times or something similar that is ultimately insignificant, the 7% overall 3b stat you have on villain holds much more credence. You should then adjust that to the scenario; you're utg, so you lower it slightly. Once you've got a suspected range (~4-5%), you can take out 66 from your flatting range here.
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10-14-2016 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Clanty
1st hand is a fold pre bro

2nd hand is fine

3rd hand is a fine pre, too, imo. Ignore your 11% bb vs UTG 3b stat as that's probably going to be 1/9 times or something similar that is ultimately insignificant, the 7% overall 3b stat you have on villain holds much more credence. You should then adjust that to the scenario; you're utg, so you lower it slightly. Once you've got a suspected range (~4-5%), you can take out 66 from your flatting range here.
I don't know why it says 7% there my hud had 2k hands on him and he had a 3b of 12.2%

Also the AJ hand UTG was reg fish and SB was big fish.
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10-14-2016 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bertrand Russell
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Ty man
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10-14-2016 , 10:05 PM
Ok so i thought this was a troll thread but judging by these hands it's clearly not, As other guy in thread said every hand was miss played(agree). Start dropping back in uni followed by dropping out of zoom and doing some serious studying on this game if you plan to ever beat it long term. You got a heater over a small sample and your lack of knowledge of the game has fooled you to believe you can repeat these results. Not even sure if it's worth giving advice on these hands or just sit back with my pop corn and enjoy the butchering lol, quite comical though as in your mind villains are the ones making mistakes.
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10-14-2016 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
Ok so i thought this was a troll thread but judging by these hands it's clearly not, As other guy in thread said every hand was miss played(agree). Start dropping back in uni followed by dropping out of zoom and doing some serious studying on this game if you plan to ever beat it long term. You got a heater over a small sample and your lack of knowledge of the game has fooled you to believe you can repeat these results. Not even sure if it's worth giving advice on these hands or just sit back with my pop corn and enjoy the butchering lol, quite comical though as in your mind villains are the ones making mistakes.
But dude he has a 40k sample and crushes. Obviously knows what he's doing...
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10-14-2016 , 10:50 PM
**** it who cares drop out of uni. Just go for it, u just might make it. If it doesn't work out you can always go back to school. I'm sure in 6months you will find out if your going to make it. Just dont stop trying to have sex with those college girls and can you please tell me if they still shave downstairs I've been married for five years.
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10-14-2016 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by meale
But dude he has a 40k sample and crushes. Obviously knows what he's doing...
My bad thought it was 39k
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10-14-2016 , 11:14 PM
I'd give it another 4-6 months. Get good enough to actually beat 50z while being that much closer to finishing your degree if things go south.
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10-15-2016 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
Ok so i thought this was a troll thread but judging by these hands it's clearly not, As other guy in thread said every hand was miss played(agree). Start dropping back in uni followed by dropping out of zoom and doing some serious studying on this game if you plan to ever beat it long term. You got a heater over a small sample and your lack of knowledge of the game has fooled you to believe you can repeat these results. Not even sure if it's worth giving advice on these hands or just sit back with my pop corn and enjoy the butchering lol, quite comical though as in your mind villains are the ones making mistakes.
Hmm I got a feeling that you're just gona come here to tell me how bad I am lol. All your posts on this and other PGCs is basically telling people how they butcher hands and how much of an idiot OP is. If you wana give feedback on some hands that would be cool dude and if you're gona come here to tell me how bad I am thats w/e lol

Ty anyway..

If for some reason no one has caught on by now... The title was not a serious one...
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10-15-2016 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
Ok so i thought this was a troll thread but judging by these hands it's clearly not, As other guy in thread said every hand was miss played(agree). Start dropping back in uni followed by dropping out of zoom and doing some serious studying on this game if you plan to ever beat it long term. You got a heater over a small sample and your lack of knowledge of the game has fooled you to believe you can repeat these results. Not even sure if it's worth giving advice on these hands or just sit back with my pop corn and enjoy the butchering lol, quite comical though as in your mind villains are the ones making mistakes.
He never said every villain misplayed them. He only said the first villain misplayed it. Also JJ shouldn't be an overbet ott...


Why are every single one of your posts about how bad people are? You literally never give any sort of feedback. I've never seen you post like this to someone who players a higher stake than you. It's almost like you find threads where people player lower than you then you find misplayed hands then you just go off on OP.


Serious question.. Why do you constantly feel the need to put people down? You never do it to people that player higher stakes than you.. You always do it to people that player same or lower stake than you.
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10-15-2016 , 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
He never said every villain misplayed them. He only said the first villain misplayed it. Also JJ shouldn't be an overbet ott...


Why are every single one of your posts about how bad people are? You literally never give positive feedback. I've never seen you post like this to someone who players a higher stake than you. It's almost like you find threads where people player lower than you then you find misplayed hands then you just go off on OP.


Serious question.. Why do you constantly feel the need to put people down? You never do it to people that player higher stakes than you.. You always do it to people that player same or lower stake than you.
Serious question do you want to go back into the oven? thought i already roasted you enough after you cried and closed your thread. Nothing to do with the stakes either look at what this guy is considering to do and where his thinking is at (recipe for disaster). It's a public forum and yea if people **** up i want to laugh at them including you, now stop trying to argue with me man you have already lost on so many levels.
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10-15-2016 , 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
He never said every villain misplayed them. He only said the first villain misplayed it. Also JJ shouldn't be an overbet ott...


Why are every single one of your posts about how bad people are? You literally never give any sort of feedback. I've never seen you post like this to someone who players a higher stake than you. It's almost like you find threads where people player lower than you then you find misplayed hands then you just go off on OP.


Serious question.. Why do you constantly feel the need to put people down? You never do it to people that player higher stakes than you.. You always do it to people that player same or lower stake than you.

I heard about this guy and what he does like 2 weeks ago. Just put him on ignore or don't respond to him


Please no derailerino
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10-15-2016 , 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
He never said every villain misplayed them. He only said the first villain misplayed it. Also JJ shouldn't be an overbet ott...


Why are every single one of your posts about how bad people are? You literally never give any sort of feedback. I've never seen you post like this to someone who players a higher stake than you. It's almost like you find threads where people player lower than you then you find misplayed hands then you just go off on OP.


Serious question.. Why do you constantly feel the need to put people down? You never do it to people that player higher stakes than you.. You always do it to people that player same or lower stake than you.
I don't post much but I read the threads, and I have seen this mahsjdi guy abusing and slandering people across a lot of different threads...I've seen him create fake usernames to back himself up in arguments pretending to be another person.

I've also seen him abusing people for having a bad run and quitting poker not long before he himself had a great big cry following the posting of a tonne of lol badbeats and quit poker as well....

Go figure, a guy who criticizes others, is dishonest & a hypocrite, coming on threads taking the moral high ground.

This place is a ****ing zoo.
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10-15-2016 , 06:00 AM
GL Op,

quickest way to stop a derail

1. Post lots of hands and strat.
2. Ignore derail
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10-15-2016 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Fatboy54
GL Op,

quickest way to stop a derail

1. Post lots of hands and strat.
2. Ignore derail
Gona get on it ty
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10-15-2016 , 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by EaziiMoniezz
Last 2 days have been really annoying.






Such a setup... Poorly played by villain too imo.

Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2970025
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $25.00
SB: $24.75 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 4.0, Hands: 28
BB: $34.02 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 1.1, Hands: 286
UTG: $26.10 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 8, AF: 3.0, Hands: 122
MP: $30.59 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 1.4, Hands: 1935
CO: $25.00 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 15

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with J A
UTG raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) J 5 2 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.97, Hero calls $0.97

Turn: ($3.79) 2 (2 players)
UTG bets $4.70, Hero calls $4.70

River: ($13.19) A (2 players)
UTG bets $19.68, Hero calls $18.58 all in

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $50.35
Hero shows J A
UTG shows J J
UTG wins $48.35
(Rake: $2.00)




Vs unknown

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2970027
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $27.46
Hero (SB): $53.45
BB: $27.01
UTG: $24.13
MP: $34.46
CO: $18.53

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A J
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.00) A T 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $3.25, Hero calls $3.25

Turn: ($11.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $6.75, Hero calls $6.75

River: ($25.00) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $14.51 all in, Hero calls $14.51

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $54.02
Hero shows A J (three of a kind, Aces - lower kicker)
BB shows Q A (three of a kind, Aces)
BB wins $52.02
(Rake: $2.00)





What would you guys do here? Villain is aggro reg with 11% BBvsUTG 3b.


Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2970028
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $25.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 2.3, Hands: 717
SB: $25.10 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 22, 3B: 15, AF: 3.0, Hands: 218
BB: $57.97 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 2.1, Hands: 703
Hero (UTG): $28.50
MP: $67.11 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 17, AF: 0.0, Hands: 16
CO: $26.09 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 13, 3B: 5, AF: 2.0, Hands: 1383

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with 6 6
Hero raises to $0.62, 4 folds, BB raises to $2.25, Hero calls $1.63

Flop: ($4.60) 4 2 3 (2 players)
BB bets $2.85, Hero calls $2.85

Turn: ($10.30) T (2 players)
BB bets $6.39, Hero calls $6.39

River: ($23.08) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $46.48, Hero?



***** annoying. Think betting flop 1/3 and checking are both fine here. Just lol called river probably straight 99% of the time

Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2970031
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BTN: $21.92 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 5
SB: $25.00 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 9, AF: 2.1, Hands: 188
BB: $25.00 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 1
UTG: $25.00 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 1.8, Hands: 603
Hero (MP): $26.05
CO: $26.39 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 1.9, Hands: 1087

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with A A
UTG raises to $0.56, Hero raises to $1.93, 4 folds, UTG calls $1.37

Flop: ($4.21) A Q 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($4.21) K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.55, UTG raises to $7.11, Hero calls $4.56

River: ($18.43) T (2 players)
UTG bets $5.80, Hero calls $5.80

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $30.03
UTG shows J T
Hero mucks A A
UTG wins $28.68
(Rake: $1.35)
Hand 1:

How does villain play this poorly? 3bet or fold AJo to the utg open and be prepared to throw it away if he comes back over the top of your 3bet. As played he played it fine value betting (and getting) three streets of value after flopping the stone cold nuts & turning the second nuts against a villain who has called a turn overbet and doesn't appear to be ready to fold river...He probably suspects you have Ax nutflush draw after the turn call with perhaps a pair to boot and/or potentially pocket fives...Sure he could have bet smaller turn but really wasn't that bad.

Hand 2:

Your preflop call is fine. I think the entire hand is fine really, ul cooler imo.

Hand 3:

Villain is 3betting an UTG open, what is your sample size for the specific 3bet in bb vs utg stat? His overall 3bet over 700 hands is 7% which imo is fairly on the tight side and the fact that he is 3betting an UTG open would send alarm bells ringing in my head. I don't mind calling in position to set mine against big pocket pairs, but if I'm not folding the flop I am definitely folding the turn...He is continuing over half pot in a 3bet pot on a board that villain is only ever repping an over pair on, this would make me fold flop. As played turn is an easy snap fold, only a total spastic would take this line with a bluff at 25z. You are essentially calling turn hoping for one of 6 outs to spring up on the river and the 6 & 5 of clubs may not even be clean outs. Easy fold turn.

Hand 4:

You have 3bet him after he's opened UTG...What is he calling this strong range with that can check flop and check raise turn that doesn't have you beat? I can only see QQ & KK, and QQ is probably 4betting pre a decent amount of the time and if not probably leading turn a large amount of the time...He can't have QJ of diamonds as the Q diamonds is on the board, all of his JTs has you beat and on turn none of those combos are blocked, you're blocking the hell out of all of his AK AQ combos. He has 3 combos of QQ (and probably almost none given his line) and 3 combos of KK on turn which probably 4bets pre some amount of the time, after you check back flop and bet turn it looks like you have pocket AA, QQ or pocket KK so I doubt he's ever check raise bluffing in this spot, and what Jx combos can you check flop with and call the turn check raise? I feel that JJ continues flop quite often when checked to and would fold to the turn check raise almost always. As played you can't really fold river for this price imo, but it's definitely a crying call and I might even be able to get away on the turn given what I explained above...This is going to be JTs far too often.
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10-15-2016 , 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by porcine.pig
Hand 1:

How does villain play this poorly? 3bet or fold AJo to the utg open and be prepared to throw it away if he comes back over the top of your 3bet. As played he played it fine value betting (and getting) three streets of value after flopping the stone cold nuts & turning the second nuts against a villain who has called a turn overbet and doesn't appear to be ready to fold river...He probably suspects you have Ax nutflush draw after the turn call with perhaps a pair to boot and/or potentially pocket fives...Sure he could have bet smaller turn but really wasn't that bad.

Hand 2:

Your preflop call is fine. I think the entire hand is fine really, ul cooler imo.

Hand 3:

Villain is 3betting an UTG open, what is your sample size for the specific 3bet in bb vs utg stat? His overall 3bet over 700 hands is 7% which imo is fairly on the tight side and the fact that he is 3betting an UTG open would send alarm bells ringing in my head. I don't mind calling in position to set mine against big pocket pairs, but if I'm not folding the flop I am definitely folding the turn...He is continuing over half pot in a 3bet pot on a board that villain is only ever repping an over pair on, this would make me fold flop. As played turn is an easy snap fold, only a total spastic would take this line with a bluff at 25z. You are essentially calling turn hoping for one of 6 outs to spring up on the river and the 6 & 5 of clubs may not even be clean outs. Easy fold turn.

Hand 4:

You have 3bet him after he's opened UTG...What is he calling this strong range with that can check flop and check raise turn that doesn't have you beat? I can only see QQ & KK, and QQ is probably 4betting pre a decent amount of the time and if not probably leading turn a large amount of the time...He can't have QJ of diamonds as the Q diamonds is on the board, all of his JTs has you beat and on turn none of those combos are blocked, you're blocking the hell out of all of his AK AQ combos. He has 3 combos of QQ (and probably almost none given his line) and 3 combos of KK on turn which probably 4bets pre some amount of the time, after you check back flop and bet turn it looks like you have pocket AA, QQ or pocket KK so I doubt he's ever check raise bluffing in this spot, and what Jx combos can you check flop with and call the turn check raise? I feel that JJ continues flop quite often when checked to and would fold to the turn check raise almost always. As played you can't really fold river for this price imo, but it's definitely a crying call and I might even be able to get away on the turn given what I explained above...This is going to be JTs far too often.


H1- Villain was reg fish and SB was big fish, BB seemed passive and hadn't 3b sqzed once in hand sample. JJ isn't a good hand to overbet turn with I mean he blocks my calling range so ***** hard I don't even know if I call turn with NFD. River is annoying since draws missed and I block hands he is tring to rep

H3 - I don't know why villain has those stats on my HUD I had like 2k hands on him he hand an overall 3b of 12.2 and 11% BBvsUTG I don't remeber exact sample

H4: I guess betting flop 1/3 is better than xing

Ty for analysis
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10-15-2016 , 03:12 PM
Re the 3bet stats - It's irrelevant, he is 3betting against an UTG open and his range should be strong even with an overall 3bet of 12%. You won't have a big enough sample to look at position v position specific 3bet% over 700 hands, this number isn't going to be accurate enough until sample sizes are larger.

On hand 1 you may have a point that he's bet too large turn. That said, I think you played the hand worse than he did and should be 3bet folding or open folding this preflop.
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10-15-2016 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by porcine.pig
Re the 3bet stats - It's irrelevant, he is 3betting against an UTG open and his range should be strong even with an overall 3bet of 12%. You won't have a big enough sample to look at position v position specific 3bet% over 700 hands, this number isn't going to be accurate enough until sample sizes are larger.

On hand 1 you may have a point that he's bet too large turn. That said, I think you played the hand worse than he did and should be 3bet folding or open folding this preflop.
I had over 2k hands on him I really don't know why it says 700 there

I really thought calling pre in hand 1 is fine with villain being weak and SB being a big fish.

Ty for feedback
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10-15-2016 , 03:47 PM
he can always reenter uni, so what lol
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10-15-2016 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kanaxis
he can always reenter uni, so what lol
I didn't say when I was dropping out . I could be dropping out in a year or two
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