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Old 07-21-2016, 12:39 PM   #201
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I never made any apart from maybe joking death threats to anyone. Prove that I made death threats or name the person I threatened.

I again propbet 500 usd. Do you accept?



Im on my phone. Tilting to type.
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Old 07-21-2016, 12:41 PM   #202
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What would my motive for saying that OP is shady be? I have almost 10 years on this site and 10k posts, I wouldn't just decide to randomly lie one day for the lulz I just wanted to warn anyone who was about to bet against OP to be careful, I know how much it sucks to get scammed. But whatever, I've said my part, you're all free to do/believe what you like.
Hi man i don't blame you for posting. It's your right, but isn't too obvious that right after oursurveysays post... you are the next one? Your last post was in January...
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Old 07-21-2016, 12:51 PM   #203
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Hi man i don't blame you for posting. It's your right, but isn't too obvious that right after oursurveysays post... you are the next one? Your last post was in January...
Patrick linked the thread and asked if I thought OP was Jason or not, doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't post lies about anyone just for the heck of it. But w/e not gonna feed more drama, ppl have been warned already.
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Old 07-21-2016, 12:51 PM   #204
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So Imfromsweden u knew I was a scammer for years but u didnt call me out on it? U never pmd me about my shady dealings.. weird. U had my skype all this time but nothing. I remember u whining about girah scamming u and I even offered u help back then if i remember correctly lul
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Old 07-21-2016, 12:51 PM   #205
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Like a virtual version of Jerry springer bunch of n1gg@s talking smack without thinking...
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:13 PM   #206
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This is the guy I "scammed". Was on my phone so couldn't post it.

[7/21/2016 10:59:53 PM] joris : ust read your thread. Didn't realize until 5min ago that Patrick has posted anything ( had gone to bed )
[7/21/2016 11:05:00 PM] joris : Since my name has been mentioned I guess I have to post something so I will do that today. I'll just post the facts that I already stated here and that I do not claim you scammed me or owe me anything unless I find that chat logs and am able to have evidence proof otherwise. I will also post that the only thing/list of events that I remember about that time is that we had a staking deal that ended badly, you sent me back (some) money, you didn't agree with things and were unhappy, I spoke with Patrick about you, and you dissapeared from skype and from Facebook. Those things are just factual and again I will make sure to post that unless I find chat logs/proof that I don't claim you owe me anything
[7/21/2016 11:08:18 PM] Jason: I mean I didnt disappear. We probably had a dispute and I ended up deleting you later on.
[7/21/2016 11:08:44 PM] Jason: I never ran frm you or anything. For 5 years straight you had the option to contact me about this.
[7/21/2016 11:12:41 PM] Jason: Also dont make it sound like I didnt send you the full balance. No matter what happened. When you stopped the staking I sent you everything
[7/21/2016 11:15:11 PM] Jason: This is so stupid.
[7/21/2016 11:15:52 PM] Jason: Dont u think if I actively stole money from you or betrayed you you would remember what happened?
[7/21/2016 11:16:05 PM] Jason: Or you would got other ppl involved back then?
[7/21/2016 11:16:17 PM] Jason: Or called me out in the mg 2+2 thread?
[7/21/2016 11:16:58 PM] joris : Patrick should not have posted implying that I accuse you of scamming me as I didn't tell you that I think you did or him. Unless I find chat logs/proof that that is what happened then I would have never accused you of anything. You definitely deleted me from FB/skype and I never heard from you after. The fact that I have never tried finding you all that time does make me think that final balances were settled, but I also remember you being a giant pain in the ass/ arrogant and there being a dispute that ended with you saying some unpleasant things before deleting me.

It wasn't my goal to say anything of this in public, I contacted you since I saw your name in the 2+2 thread and wanted to talk to you. I asked Patrick if he remembered the details/ had chat logs. I am not sure why he posted about it on 2+2 instantly.
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:16 PM   #207
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Patrick. Now. Post proof of multiple people contacting you claiming I scammed them or send me $500 on Pokerstars. Ja$onb.

I have never in my life scammed anyone or done anything that would betray my own pride. Send me my money and get the **** out
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:17 PM   #208
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anyone else not interested in the soap opera but wants to read about the turn 3b with KJ? or just me? scurra u said u were gonna be a good king, plzzzzz
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:34 PM   #209
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I'll comment on KJ and school dennis after Patrick admits that he's been a pussy all his life and that he lied about people contacting him claiming I scammed them and sends me the $500 he owes me.
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:42 PM   #210
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Hello all,

First of all I would like to say that it was not my intention to make this public. Unfortunately now that my name has been mentioned by Patrick I don't really have a choice. I have no intention to create more drama so I will try to just be factual as much as I can.

The other day I stumbled upon this thread and saw the name Jason somewhere. Along with the style of writing this made me wonder if OP was the same person I had personal dealings with several years ago. I PM'd him/ sent a skype request and it turned out to be him. Five years ago ( I don't know exactly how long ) I spoke with Jason and Patrick very regularly on skype. I ended up staking Jason for a period and he ended up violating the terms that I had made ( He was asked to not play more than a certain amount of tables and played way more ). I ended up ending the deal and demanding he would pay me back the money he had lost during the stake. He was very unhappy/angry over this and our relationship ended with him saying some nasty things and deleting / blocking me from skype and facebook ( he says he never blocked me but I never saw or heard from him again nor did he ever come online again ). The following is a list of what I believe to be facts :

*He sent me a certain amount back. I do NOT remember if this was the whole amount he owed me or just whatever was left of the roll.
* He was a very arrogant/angry young man who made new 2+2 accounts regularly for whatever reason ( I do not remember exactly so not speculating )
* I spoke with Patrick repeatedly back then about the issues I had with Jason.

I have told Jason and Patrick that I have no intention of accusing OP of scamming me five years ago and not paying me back unless I am able to provide proof. In my mind I remember things ending badly with Jason and him not paying me back fully and Patrick seems to share this thought/remembers me saying this. This however is just a memory and without me being able to provide chat logs it will never be more than just that. Again, it has not been my choice to make this a public matter, but since Patrick and Jason have both posted about this repeatedly in here I had no choice. When I contacted OP last night it had been my goal to ask him if he remembered what happened between us years ago, congratulate him on being in a better (mental) place in his life, and hope that he had grown as a person and if he remembered not paying me back to just do so ( a very optimistic mindset obviously ). We are talking about a maximum amount of $2k, so it's not life changing money. At the same time I also reached out to Patrick to ask him if he still had the chat logs from back then and to ask him if he remembered exactly what happened. I did not say or imply that Jason scammed me. I only said that years ago I had had a dispute with Jason and if he remembered anything/had chat logs/ had any info. Patrick then took it upon himself to post in this thread as he felt compelled to at least warn people that Jason might be a shady character. Although I regret being involuntarily involved in this public matter now, I can fully understand why he would feel the need to give people a heads up. Based on my unpleasant dealings with OP I would warn people to be cautious myself.

Sorry for the drama.
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:45 PM   #211
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Im just here to make fun of dennis too he's my friend but this is funny
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:51 PM   #212
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What would my motive for saying that OP is shady be? I have almost 10 years on this site and 10k posts, I wouldn't just decide to randomly lie one day for the lulz I just wanted to warn anyone who was about to bet against OP to be careful, I know how much it sucks to get scammed. But whatever, I've said my part, you're all free to do/believe what you like.
Hate to break it for you, but you dont become reputable just because you got x ammounts of posts and been member y ammount of years at a internet forum. This means nothing in real life lol, like are you serious? Obv you guys got some kind of history.

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What are you talking about. I said I remembered 100% that a respected guy messaged me on skype warning me that you had scammed him. I didn't try and change the topic. I didn't remember the details 1) because it was a long time ago and 2) because it wasn't surprising.

I felt 100% deep down at the time of posting that the community should have known about the situation when more and more people were trying to make bets.

What do you mean as proofs? Almost every single person on micro gaming were warning eachother about you at the time for being shady and lots of stories true or not we're going round about you because of the way you were. Ifs wouldn't just make up about you making death threads to people, why the fkn would he do that????

Even the retired vo2max who nobody has seen since clearing is all out on micro gaming has reappeared and remembers after all the Hookers and blow what you were like back then.

Again the reasons why I posted

1- you were on another 2p2 account, I remembered you having many of them with lots and lots of drama and were trying to make bets without people seeing things
2- I as everybody else from back in the day know how much of a nutter you are
3- a respected long time playing pro messaged me saying you scammed him in skme stsking deal that I (rightfully imo and still possible) took as gospel
4- many people wanted to bet against you including friends of mine

Again.. Previously I thought you were just a young kid who was a little bit socially unaware online. Now you're (obviously) older and nothing seems to have changed, i really really really suggest you speak to Elliot roe or somebody, you're obviously talented at poker if you're able to win against line ups with Linus etc. what's the worst that can happen from doing it? It's an hours commitment and I'm paying.
Lol, you just debatably made up that jason is a scammer. If you are "close to best friends" or whatever you said earlier, it would make sense for him to make stuff up. I haven't been around poker for a long time, but even I know this is typical ****ty poker player behaviour to protect your friends.

Why are you still arguing instead of bringing your sources to the thread?
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:53 PM   #213
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Compare Complexion's Post to the skypelog I had with him. I mean Patrick and him are buddies. They are both trying to save face. That's all really.
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:55 PM   #214
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can we please go back to flaming and dkswinging? enough of this aids already jeez
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Old 07-21-2016, 02:03 PM   #215
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Sorry for the drama.
Don't be, we are all great full for this entertaining piece of drama. Quite the good read tyty.
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Old 07-21-2016, 02:03 PM   #216
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Hello all,

First of all I would like to say that it was not my intention to make this public. Unfortunately now that my name has been mentioned by Patrick I don't really have a choice. I have no intention to create more drama so I will try to just be factual as much as I can.

The other day I stumbled upon this thread and saw the name Jason somewhere. Along with the style of writing this made me wonder if OP was the same person I had personal dealings with several years ago. I PM'd him/ sent a skype request and it turned out to be him. Five years ago ( I don't know exactly how long ) I spoke with Jason and Patrick very regularly on skype. I ended up staking Jason for a period and he ended up violating the terms that I had made ( He was asked to not play more than a certain amount of tables and played way more ). I ended up ending the deal and demanding he would pay me back the money he had lost during the stake. He was very unhappy/angry over this and our relationship ended with him saying some nasty things and deleting / blocking me from skype and facebook ( he says he never blocked me but I never saw or heard from him again nor did he ever come online again ). The following is a list of what I believe to be facts :

*He sent me a certain amount back. I do NOT remember if this was the whole amount he owed me or just whatever was left of the roll.
* He was a very arrogant/angry young man who made new 2+2 accounts regularly for whatever reason ( I do not remember exactly so not speculating )
* I spoke with Patrick repeatedly back then about the issues I had with Jason.

I have told Jason and Patrick that I have no intention of accusing OP of scamming me five years ago and not paying me back unless I am able to provide proof. In my mind I remember things ending badly with Jason and him not paying me back fully and Patrick seems to share this thought/remembers me saying this. This however is just a memory and without me being able to provide chat logs it will never be more than just that. Again, it has not been my choice to make this a public matter, but since Patrick and Jason have both posted about this repeatedly in here I had no choice. When I contacted OP last night it had been my goal to ask him if he remembered what happened between us years ago, congratulate him on being in a better (mental) place in his life, and hope that he had grown as a person and if he remembered not paying me back to just do so ( a very optimistic mindset obviously ). We are talking about a maximum amount of $2k, so it's not life changing money. At the same time I also reached out to Patrick to ask him if he still had the chat logs from back then and to ask him if he remembered exactly what happened. I did not say or imply that Jason scammed me. I only said that years ago I had had a dispute with Jason and if he remembered anything/had chat logs/ had any info. Patrick then took it upon himself to post in this thread as he felt compelled to at least warn people that Jason might be a shady character. Although I regret being involuntarily involved in this public matter now, I can fully understand why he would feel the need to give people a heads up. Based on my unpleasant dealings with OP I would warn people to be cautious myself.

Sorry for the drama.
Okay so to sum this up. You don't really remember if I scammed you or not? You are not accusing me of having scammed you. You decided to not contact me about this until 5 years later. You could have contacted me about this on 2+2, via Patrick, ifs or at the tables. You didn't.

On top of that you are making things sound quite differently in your 2+2 post compared to our private skypelogs.

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Old 07-21-2016, 02:29 PM   #217
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You don't come off as the best human in the world. Still gunning for best poker player at least
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Old 07-21-2016, 02:30 PM   #218
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lolz
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Old 07-21-2016, 02:36 PM   #219
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So OP doesn't want this because it makes him look bad.

Patrick regrets this because it makes him look bad.

Joris looks calm and pretty GTO, but still doesn't want this.

So why not have a mod delete this nonsense?

As for d7/Mixgrill, surely betting with strangers with 20 posts without any third party vouching or escrowing is just plain -EV decision making no matter what?
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Old 07-21-2016, 02:41 PM   #220
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D7/Mixgrill know me as a player since 2014. I have immediately contacted both after Patrick posted here and offered them to void the bet despite me being up big at the moment.

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I am willing to propbet 500 usd that Patrick did not have multiple legit people contact him claiming I scammed them.

You just claimed this Patrick. Do you accept the bet or admit that u lied about this?
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Rofl, booked then..
Thread will continue once Patrick has either provided proof or settled this bet. I'm out.

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Old 07-21-2016, 02:52 PM   #221
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lolpatrick


potentially destroyed some of his ev in future propbets aswell. scummy
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Old 07-21-2016, 03:07 PM   #222
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I see nothing wrong with what pads did, he let people know op has a shady history(staking deal gone wrong, death threats not only to players but sites reps, multi accounting on 2p2 who are more than enough to raise red flags) and people who bet against him should most likely get a third party to hold to bet money, simple as that. Then op tries to move focus from his history of bad dealing on to pads and joris and make them look like the bad guys, altough they said multiple times this is 5y old stuff and details are a bit vague, take everything with a grain and salt!
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Old 07-21-2016, 03:19 PM   #223
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This is very lol. Dosent matter for me. I dont belive scam found place. But i do belive some euroes missing. Anyway let jason be jason now and move forward. Dont belive that a guy so eager to Get everyones attention would scam on top of that. If so he would be braindead. And he is clearly not deluded or is he?

Time will tell... This Patrick boy havent done anything wrong either.

Scammer or not u got a temper and hart son! Gl may the action around u live long
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Old 07-21-2016, 04:04 PM   #224
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thread was awesome 'til all this 5 y/o potential shady business derailed it, but even that was worth a read for the phrase "pussy minded orangejuice drinking phaggot" which is solid af.
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Old 07-21-2016, 04:10 PM   #225
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I see nothing wrong with what pads did, he let people know op has a shady history(staking deal gone wrong, death threats not only to players but sites reps, multi accounting on 2p2 who are more than enough to raise red flags) and people who bet against him should most likely get a third party to hold to bet money, simple as that. Then op tries to move focus from his history of bad dealing on to pads and joris and make them look like the bad guys, altough they said multiple times this is 5y old stuff and details are a bit vague, take everything with a grain and salt!
This death threat thing. The story about that was that I had a blog on PS and I said something like "First I will move up to 1k and then I will execute Korn and take over pokerstrategy" - Korn was the admin of Pokerstrategy.com back then. Obviously I wasn't planning on actually executing Korn.

But look at how imfromsweden twists it lul
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And a lot of death threats against the CEO of Pokerstrategy after the coaching thingy didn't work out, that I remember distinctly
As for coaching didn't work out. I was the one turning down PokerStrategy. I was asked for doing interviews and producing strat content multiple times. One time by Patrick himself and I turnt down every single time.

Look at Patrick trying to act cool with vo2 "you crazy crazy bastard 2012 was siiick <33333" and vo2max doesn't even know who the **** he is. I mean don't you see what a try-to-be-cool-with-everyone little ***** that guy is?

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