P attitude is extremely tilting, enough with the judges bull**** to find a way out, the bet was pretty clear, just pay the man his $500 and stop ruinning this thread.

Just pay the $500. Your pride is stopping you from thinking rationally.

Pay the man his 500 $.

A+ troll

Just searching now for all of Jason's different 2p2 accounts. Currently on 4 and this one with an interesting name "I got scammed" arguing with complexion (joris) the guy I spoke about who told me he scammed him. Arguing with all micro gaming regs there.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/376345/

Assuming it's an ironic name after somebody accused Jason of acting unethically. Who would have thought. It would be a lot easier if he just had one account and then everything was there for everybody to see. Having to go through hundreds of pages of different threads to find different posts with all the controversy. Fun way to spend my holiday but I've been given a 24 hour coir down from Jason before he posts on NVG calling me a scammer with my real name. He doesn't give me his real name Ofc.

I have sent some screenshots to a 2p2 member, I think he will post them now in the thread. The full conversation from Joris and some others.

I'm not making a secret that I had multiple accounts with low postcount on here.

The "I got scammed" account is mine. So what? There was an issue with Microgaming not transfering funds back into accounts after servercrashes and I posted it. I'm such a shady person.

Is the poker thing coming back OP? Very enjoyable thread until derail!
EDIT: Ohh, I just now realized I missed a few actual poker posts not too long ago in the midst of it all. Well done OP!

Also, again there is nothing wrong with the posts I made. I'm just trashing Joris and imfromsweden. Who coincidentally are also the only 2 guys siding with you in this whole thing.

And again.

[7/21/2016 11:16:58 PM] joris: Patrick should not have posted implying that I accuse you of scamming me as I didn't tell you that I think you did or him.



Is your last attempt to save face really to try and get me banned here for multiaccounting? You're such a weak little thing

Each account you started again a new one because people were calling you a scumbag though. Why would you keep creating these new accounts? This last one I saw Joris (ironically) is calling you out for making fake graphs and then you end the account and make a new one where you don't post any words just how much your bankroll is trying to get to 100k. I guess it goes down and down and broke and then you start a new one.

The whole Joris thing with you getting staked by him just makes no sense to me thiugh and you might be right lol. Why Joris would ever stake you after he is constantly calling you out in these threads just makes so sense to me. He thinks you're a bad player and thinks you're not trustworthy. So when exactly and why did he stake you and then he thought afterwards you scammed him? He didn't make a 2p2 thread or post in negative feedback thread or anything like that I don't think and I can't find the trail from you because you have all these different accounts.

It's all ****ed up.

Anyway I sent screenshots to apotheosis he will post some today after his session. Need a big beer.

Edits not sure who Ted mosby is but his post here sums up what everybody at the time on micro gaming and what everybody was telling everybody about you.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1478

I never made a new account to "run" or hide from you guys. Even in that account you posted I immediately made a comment saying "IamJesseP is so bad" which was my screenname back then. I just don't care for this whole persona thing. I was a huge troll back then. And who can blame me? You, IFS, and Joris are 3 of the biggest dorks I know.

And regarding the other account you've linked.

imbadd

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...35/?highlight=

this is one of the best blogs on 2+2 and yes, it was mine. And I even stated in the high stakes NL thread when somebody posted hands of me that that's me. I was never trying to hide my identity or whatever. I'm legit. You're a fraud.

And Apotheosis. You asked me to add you on Skype a few days ago. I ignored that. Then you post a hand of me like a salty bitch and start posting screenshots siding with Patrick. Because I didn't add you? You guys are so salty.

You can all come. I'll take each and every one of you down one by one. I have buried Patrick, Dennis, IFS and Vo2Max in this thread. And I'm not even trying. They are doing it themselves. Offering themselves and their rep as a sacrifice to me because they know I run this game now. Peasants

Also:

[8:25:48 PM] Jason: Okay so you're a liar.
[8:25:48 PM] Jason: Good
[8:25:50 PM] Patrick: But I think as you posted it and with the exact terms reading it back
[8:25:54 PM] Patrick: I'm probably in the wrong
[8:26:11 PM] Patrick: Like I said, post the guys from the buda group like you said you would before
[8:26:20 PM] Jason: you are probably in the wrong?
[8:26:21 PM] Patrick: I send the $500 and then we just don't speak further
[8:26:23 PM] Jason: probably?
[8:26:49 PM] Patrick: I think taking the bet and the way you worded it I saw it exactly the same way as boba fett
[8:26:59 PM] Jason: You are shooting yourself in the foot here Patrick. You can't just admit you are wrong and that you lied and then demand something for the bet you lost.

[7/21/2016 8:48:15 PM] coopah: massively rooting for you in your latest 2+2 thread bro. and **** what pads said, what a ****. always chimes in with useless pathetic posts with no substance
[7/21/2016 8:48:58 PM] coopah: I tried to log in to 2+2 to post but I cant remember my email or password
[7/21/2016 10:05:33 PM] Jason: Thanx bro.
[7/21/2016 10:05:40 PM] Jason: Hes obnoxious
[7/21/2016 10:17:40 PM] coopah: can say that again, true drama queen. could have easily just pmd his little bum buddy IFS about it, and its not as if he really cares about mixgrill losing $1k or whatever especially when you said action is over
[7/21/2016 10:18:26 PM] coopah: hes always hated other people having the lime light, and hes basically come to your thread to take that
[7/22/2016 12:27:12 AM] Jason: the guy took a $500 bet knowing he would lose it
[7/22/2016 12:27:20 AM] Jason: just to save face for a couple more hours. fukken lol.
coopah sent an image.
[9:06:01 PM] coopah: Looool
[9:06:45 PM] Jason: Yeah that's kinda mean for me to quote you in but I figured you wouldn't care
[9:06:54 PM] coopah: I dont lok
[9:06:56 PM] coopah: Lol
[9:07:03 PM] Jason: we agreed to keep the chat private. so that's even more pathetic that he hits you up about this
[9:07:17 PM] Jason: guy is such a scummy pce of ****.
[9:07:37 PM] coopah: Whats the latest, is he paying u the 500

I didn't post all the chatlogs previously because I'm not a cheap **** but if you want to take this any further Patrick I'll ruin you here.

[8:19:58 PM] Jason: Why would someone I scammed
[8:20:01 PM] Jason: not want to come forward
[8:20:03 PM] Jason: and demand the money
[8:20:04 PM] Jason: in private
[8:20:05 PM] Jason: ?
[8:20:08 PM] Jason: you're so delluded
[8:20:14 PM] Patrick: Because of the way you are being here?
[8:20:21 PM] Patrick: And he way people turn on people
[8:20:28 PM] Jason: LMAO
[8:20:31 PM] Patrick: People don't like to be in the public eye like you

Come on it wasn't Joris, ifs and I. I barely knew Joris at all. Everybody itt at the time knew that you:

1- kept randomly making new 2p2 accounts including one called "I got scammed"
2- kept lying about who you were
3- kept purging graphs
4- Joris posted to regs informing them (I assume, I wasn't friends with him so no reason to only post to me) that you had scammed him (God knows if this is actually true
5- you constantly went broke playing way too high
6- regs were warning eachother about you and telling eachother to not trust you etc

Chris will post a 10 screenshot conversation from Joris which makes it undoubted that he definitely told me you either scammed him or ****ed him over somehow. Everybody in all of the micro gaming / ps threads assumed at the time and told you you were a pos. I also sent Chris some screenshots of somebody venue reputable who you know well but doesn't want to be posted about in the thread telling me I should post and warn people not to do business with you. He will post cropped version in the thread.

You know very well what your image was between micro gaming regs, everybody know about it and you can say you didn't care but we all know you did otherwise you'd just have one account and troll off it. You constantly said how you were crushing higher stakes and that you were the best reg playing mid stakes cash and 5 years of assumingly 200k+ years you're not rolled to play higher than 500z. I don't care about that but everything that comes out of your mouth is a lie, you shouted louder and louder that ifs went to PokerStrategy for a 9-5 because he couldn't beat the games anymore and you said it again and agai a s fact when it's so far from reality. Living in Gibraltar for 2-3 months on an internship is far different, but why should he or anybody else explain themselves to you.

I posted initially in the thread because Joris has told me you had scammed him and many other people all spoke to me and I spoke to them about how you cannot and should not be trusted. Respected members of the community even suggest I should post, but for whatever reason want to stay anon. There was more speculation about you taking more action etc for the bet and I figured that as you have past record of doctoring graphs and what I thought was 100% fact that you had scammed Joris I think I obviously had to post.

I've no idea how good you are at poker or not. I don't care to be honest. I cared about posting to help Donald and didn't want mixgrill to get ****ed over, that was that. You were one of the guys with the worst reputation 3-4 years ago and were really bad at poker now you're here wanting to crossbook under a new screen name. Of course I'm going to ****ing post and for anybody who doesn't us eternal that just doesn't get it, that's fine, we just think differently about things. When so many people comprehensively post that I'm wrong it's very likely that it's right though, littlegoliath, tinstone and others aren't deluded people and they get it. All I wanted was for people to read a full thing from me explaining it all and why I took the bet. I came into here with good intentions, I wanted to warn this community that I've done $700k+ in successful trades that I suspected this guy of being a scumbag and was in my eyes a confirmed scammer. Did multiple people come to me and say "Jason scammed me" I really don't know. And if that technically makes me lose the bet then ok I send $500 and apologise.

Chris will post all the screenshots later and show exactly from Joris why I would think he definitely was scammed by you and also from people saying I should "warn people not to do financial dealings with you"

I have spent (and i recognize you have spent too) countless hours on this ridiculous thing. I'm happy for it to get over.

Op would be one of the last people I would ever do business with and would advise anybody and everybody not to touch him with a barge pole. If the question was "does dozens of people think he is a scumbag/can't be trusted" I would win, the fact of the way it was worded I accepted stupidly and that's my fault.

Apologies for dragging it out this long. My bad.

[11:54:03 PM] Jason: Answer one question
[11:54:03 PM] Jason: patrick
[11:54:10 PM] Jason: After all this why did you ask me to produce strategy videos for pokerstrategy.com?
[11:54:47 PM] Patrick: I can't remember any of that
[11:54:52 PM] Patrick: But
[11:54:57 PM] Jason: u gotta be joking
[11:54:59 PM] Patrick: Having the bad guy creating content is good
[11:55:09 PM] Patrick: Having somebody who people will come to watch is good

Hold this L!!!

Lol, I'll posts the screenshots later when I have time to format the post but to say that "I asked you to add me on skype and then posted a salty HH in here because I was mad you ignored it" is taking things out of context to begin with and then straight up wrong thereafter.


I asked you to add me on skype because we were playing together and you asked if you should start playing PLO (I assumed because you were serious and knew I had began to play). I wasn't prepared to have a lengthy discussion in the stars lobby tables while multitabling with hotkeys on so I gave you my skype so that you could pm me later if you so wished because I was willing to answer any questions you might have.

I was then pmed a link to the thread by bit2easy because he thought it was a great read. Incidentally I mentioned to him at the time that you had pmed me at the tables asking about PLO and I had tried to help you but you didn't follow through, so I was concerned you missed my message. And now after reading the thread i was unsure if that was the case or if you were just trolling.

I then posted the hand not because I was salty ( i still half assumed you had just missed my response) but because the thread had been derailed by the pads issue and I thought the whole spirit of the thread was to berate/bash/ make fun of the **** hands that regs play every so often (which I believe I had mentioned in the post). In addition to that you had just openly challenged a few people that you posted HHs of to post a single hand of you playing like **** and I happened to have that one so I posted it for the lols. Was I wrong to do so? Is this one of those threads where OP can post whatever and bash people but the second anyone posts anything bad about him all of the sudden its way out of line?

To be quite honest, there's not much more to say really. I was looking forward to a fun thread from someone that I thought had some balls and was a little brash but it's clear that's just not the case. It's obvious at this point that you're not just someone with a little chutzpah but rather you're actually mentally ill.

I know you'll argue and protest and do w/e to convince yourself and the chorus of 25 NL grinders you've got convinced of pads being a scammer that you're actually reasonable but that's to be expected. After all, if crazy people were self aware enough to know they were crazy then they wouldn't actually be crazy.


Also, shame on the community for throwing pads under the bus. Pads had legitimate reason to believe that jason was at least shady and had friends with money on the line and now that hes failed to provide a notarized letter from an attorney saying that's the case, everyone is jumping down his throat. Meanwhile, on this same site is a thread about Brian Hastings doing shady **** and 300 pages worth of posts of people witch hunting trying to figure out who knew, who may have known and who should have known and trying to blame them all. If you genuinely think pads has nothing better to do than join random threads and call people out for being shady then you're out of touch with reality.

This will be my last post in this thread other than to post the proof of two people contact pads on skype about you having a shady past that likely involved a scam and the other also remembering something had gone down and recommending that pads post.

hahahah. yeh its awesome having a suspected (youre the one suspecting him) scammer creating content for you and you paying him. jfc pads u come across awful in this whole thing


lol coopah, forgot he eXisted. was even more of an emotional wreck than OP

I'm ****ing brutal with computers and this is already taking up more of my time than it truly merits.

I've also spoken with pads and jason. I have two skype convos from pads, one from joris where he's 100% sure that he and jason had a staking problem and he's pretty convinced there was more to it than that but its >5 years ago now and he simply cant be bothered to dig deeper.

The other is a conversation between pads and another person where after the other person uses the thread to confirm that jason is indeed who they think he is he remembers jason being involved in some shady stuff and recommends that pads post to warn others.

This was the basis for pads original post which I believe is sufficiently warranted.

Regarding the bet itself, pads failed to produce evidence showing people claiming that they were specifically scammed. As such, pads has agreed to pay the 500$ to resolve the issue.

Come on man, you know why he posted in the thread originally. Cause subconsciously or maybe even consciously, he wanted to rain on scurras parade, hes a little salty Jason is getting some shine, he wanted to bring him down a peg. He pretended he didnt know who OP was, then posted about a scam he didnt even know the details to. If he was that concerned he could of PMed the people in the prop bet, but he wanted to post in the thread...cause hes a hater.

I can't tell if you're trolling or not. On the assumption that you aren't...

Is there some previous history between the two of them that I'm not privy too> that would lead pads to specifically target this guy? Or is that jealousy based on the idea that pads simply can't tolerate the fact that there's another popular PG and C thread? I'm genuinely not sure which you're claiming.

A few people have said this itt that in jealous of jason.

I can promise that's not the case.

Our dispute is over, we fixed it on skype and will have a little nl500z prop bet between us in "7-10 days"

Good news for the 500z regs I'll come back and donate for 20,000 more hands

I will actually not propbet you. Can't be bothered being in any further personal contact with you. You are one of the most deluded people I've come across. Nobody in this thread backs you besides that dork Apotheosis who's ego was offended because I didn't add him on Skype. Nice.

Patrick has admitted he was wrong and will send me $500 on Sunday.

I don't care if apotheosis posts all that "evidence". Go ahead. But after that. Let's move on.