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Pls dont go gay now jason with math behind Nl. Itssss so lol. I proved u all wrong. 2012 this was all talk how u need GTO play with math! And ifs and compleixon so jelous. How can someone win 300k in summertime by being crazy? Hart! Now we have plo. This is math u need IT. Every spot is ev every spot is at risk! But Nl come on morons. Last clown here starts to give a rane vs ur kj? So fkn what?! Thats hes style. I personaly hold any 2 in the mix of 30% starting hands. U got something going on.. And Patrick is a Nice fwllow only dude who is open about who he is here and give action. Wtf is swdens old alias? Compleixon i know because he cheated vs
Me. I wanna know if he was in the mix to. Patrick played me for hours 5/10 hu. The other Two might ceathed me! U can tell in private

07-23-2016 , 07:46 PM

#378

Vo2Max

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 303

Quote:

Originally Posted by n0hvn4me

I don't know about his other qualities, but op seems pretty good at the game

Sees like homework is done

07-24-2016 , 12:17 AM

#379

DennisGPunkt

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,326

Quote:

Originally Posted by scurra

As for KJ

We expect V to x/r 67, 2p, set and 7/6xdd hands otf very frequently. Meaning he troubles himself when he x/r Turn since our absolute strength will be a lot higher than his. That's not neccessarily bad for specific hands he has but for his strategy.
His Turnsize 98$ is a bit high for slowplayed 2p or turnt 45. 45 doesn't make sense to x/r regardless. Basically he's set or 67 (rare) and a lot of the time on hands like Q9dd Axdd Jxdd etc.

There is 2 problems with call turn.

One: Opponent will be able to cherrypick play River. Aka there might be river he will decide to bluff almost never but always valuebet and we are forced to call. On those Rivers our Turncall EV is ruined because we call a $100 x/r Turn and then most likely a $200 river bet with 0EQ. It's important to note that V will tend to x/r 7/6x type of hands on the Flop meaning he's left with bluffs on the River that don't have any significant value blockers -> therefor decide to check. Meaning we give those hands a free River by calling instead of raising.

So this means that effectively we are realizing less equity with our KJ than we should against his bluffs. He will cherrypick play us. We will hit a River. Make a bad call. We will hit a King or Jack end up calling against his valuerange exclusively. It's just not working well.

The key thing here is that V will not be able to 4bet jam our Turn 3bet with his sets since as I said earlier our absolute handstrength is too high. Meaning V will be forced to call his sets (he will never lead River) and call his flushdraws (he will only lead Flushd Rivers which we don't care about) for a total of $210.

Now we invest $210 instead of calling a raise and a most likely -EV riverspot for a total of $300, we realize way, way more EV. We take away all iniative from Villain. He can not lead unless he binks a flush which we are indifferent to.

So to sum up. We are realizing more EV against his bluffs. We are losing less money against the rare case of him having a stronger hand. We take away all iniative from villain.

ROFL

07-24-2016 , 01:45 AM

#380

953757584922009

banned

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 132

Come on Dennis its your turn. You cant say its awful and ROFL and then dont explain why

07-24-2016 , 01:51 AM

#381

DennisGPunkt

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,326

Quote:

Originally Posted by 953757584922009

Come on Dennis its your turn. You cant say its awful and ROFL and then dont explain why

We expect V to x/r 67, 2p, set and 7/6xdd hands otf very frequently. Meaning he troubles himself when he x/r Turn since our absolute strength will be a lot higher than his. That's not neccessarily bad for specific hands he has but for his strategy.

Good assumption then!

I also would add Skip and Wild Draw Four in his range. Not neccessary bad to x/r those, but bad for the overall strategy.

So to sum up. We are realizing more EV against his bluffs.

This is nice too. The new concept of EV realization. Would love to hear more about it.

Last edited by DennisGPunkt; 07-24-2016 at 02:02 AM.

07-24-2016 , 03:45 AM

#382

Tcarnage

adept

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 987

Quote:

Originally Posted by OurSurveySays

You think you're the best player in the world, the 500z regs probably underrate you you would have a huge edge here. I'll then on top give you an additional 1bb edge from what the judges consider fair. You can bet 19.5k vs 20k if you prefer. We can book it and start after this current prop is finished. Not sure why you'd ever turn this down.

Feel this line is good, lets make this happen

Quote:

Originally Posted by scurra

Yeah everything said on my part. I have no interest in betting Patrick. He's a scammer and a liar. I can move on with the usual stuff. But he will come back with a novel post. Ill get triggered by his dorkiness and end up replying. Im a stupid man.

Scurra isn't your propbet right now around $500 give/take anyways and without an escrow? Why not take a large 20k propbet with an escrow so pads cant "scam" you..

I'm guess the line is even and you could get paid $500 that you are "owed"

Did the $1,200 laptop you had to purchase hurt the bankroll to much? Have the graph stopped coming cause you stopped being on a heater of a lifetime?

U got 20k/month on slow months, think about the money you will make if u grind hard...

07-24-2016 , 04:10 AM

#383

scurra

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 263

Nah Im up 20k for the month and barely played so Im fine. Winning at 20bb/100 for the propbet. Lol at people here calling me out for spending 'only' 1.2k on a laptop. I wont bet Patrick until he paid the 500USD he owes.

Also dennis. You are emberassing urself. Im staking a guy on 50 who plays better than you. Stop deluding urself with the idea of being good.

07-24-2016 , 04:14 AM

#384

scurra

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 263

Also before u crimgecomeback. Post one hand I misplayed against you. Just one.

07-24-2016 , 04:24 AM

#385

b1ochemical

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,321

This thread is so ***** good, gotta keep coming back. Also, i love you scurra <3

07-24-2016 , 04:36 AM

#386

DennisGPunkt

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,326

Quote:

Originally Posted by scurra

Dude, given what you wrote you gonna be broke within 6 month maximum.

You are beyond clueless.

07-24-2016 , 04:45 AM

#387

scurra

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 263

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07-24-2016 , 04:53 AM

#388

LOLCh1pPorn

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,580

maybe you guys should play hu for a bit

07-24-2016 , 04:56 AM

#389

scurra

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 263

Like dennis would play me lol

07-24-2016 , 05:09 AM

#390

FeedmyKitty

banned

Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 140

07-24-2016 , 05:14 AM

#391

.isolated

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21,495

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimStone

This was teh bet.

This was booked.

This needs to be paid.

This. Somebody in this thread is a scammer and it's not Jason.

07-24-2016 , 06:15 AM

#392

Sedeete

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,124

First time in a very long time that I sub to a goal thread, but this seems worth it. Too much debating for a bit too long, but the banter is real and fun.

Let's do this OP. Show the world. I'm rooting for you!

07-24-2016 , 07:18 AM

#393

halcyon229

journeyman

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 278

Not playing winamax anymore, Jason?
Thought you were killing it there back in the day.

And I completely agree that Pads definitely should pay the 500 $. Seriously, his behavior in this thread / him welching on the prob bet would disengage me from ever doing business with him.

This is of course only my opinion, but before reading this thread I was a regular reader of Pads blog and thought he was a very nice guy and a great ambassador for the game.
Never expected that a blog by the one and only 1mpr0x would change my perception of Pads

07-24-2016 , 07:27 AM

#394

DennisGPunkt

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,326

Quote:

Originally Posted by scurra

Like dennis would play me lol

I wonder how much EV i would realize by playing you hu.

07-24-2016 , 07:30 AM

#395

JimmyRare

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,752

Quote:

Originally Posted by DennisGPunkt

I wonder how much EV i would realize by playing you hu.

So scared.

07-24-2016 , 07:35 AM

#396

b1ochemical

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,321

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyRare

So scared.

nope, he is so scurred*

07-24-2016 , 07:36 AM

#397

scurra

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 263

Quote:

Originally Posted by DennisGPunkt

I wonder how much EV i would realize by playing you hu.

EV = expected value. Realizing your expected value. Or realizing more or less than your expected value.
It's the same terminology as realizing Equity.
EV and equity correlate to numbers. Both can be realized. They effectively mean the same thing but Equity is a much broader term to use than EV when describing values.

How does this not make sense to you?

@haly, haven't been on Winamax in 2 years~. And yeah what's new. Patrick is a scammer and a liar.

Last edited by scurra; 07-24-2016 at 07:52 AM.

07-24-2016 , 07:41 AM

#398

DennisGPunkt

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,326

Quote:

Originally Posted by scurra

because its not the same thing.

gl dude.. you gonna need it.

07-24-2016 , 07:57 AM

#399

scurra

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 263

$100 River pot Check Check scenario

50% equity

50% equity correlates to $50
Expected value correlates to $50

I didn't say they are the same thing. I said they effectively mean the same thing.
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Stop talking strat Dennis.

07-24-2016 , 08:01 AM

#400

DennisGPunkt

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,326

Quote:

Originally Posted by scurra

$100 River pot Check Check scenario

50% equity

50% equity correlates to $50
Expected value correlates to $50

I didn't say they are the same thing. I said they effectively mean the same thing.
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Stop talking strat Dennis.

it doesnt get more right because you repeat it. But go ahead and keep educating your fanboiz with your wisdom.

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