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06-26-2016 , 04:02 AM
I wouldnt send to anyone except several friends/regs at 100s.

Ive got disconnected big time 4 times and 3 out of 4 occasions fellow regs blinded me out without mercy.

That was kinda long time ago when I was still living in Thailand. Those 3 regs play 60s or 30s nowadays. So it says something

The only guy who sent me back 100 usd is still a crusher at 100s.

And yes its abarone68 of course
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06-26-2016 , 04:05 AM
Lots of solid points made in the last few posts, going to highlight a few that I wanted to respond to.

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Thanks for the thorough answers.
^^^

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Originally Posted by Clayton
wait for nobody. just a negative freeroll showing common courtesy
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Originally Posted by squire1888
we make no money by bein a nice guy at the tables
These are sad things, right? It's sad that showing common courtesy (and trying to be 'nice') can only backfire in this industry. Could make the same 'negative freeroll' point about offering advice to fellow poker players, whether it be stuff about the actual game or off the felt.


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Originally Posted by brngny
that game could be a million dolar spin rather than 10x
Yeah this was 'only' a 10x, I don't know if I would have sent the same amount of equity if it was the 1M. I would guess not, which makes me a hypocrite.

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Originally Posted by ibavly
Just don't accept if someone else tries sending you back when you dc.
Solid idea, going to go with this.
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06-26-2016 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by noonetwotwo
I wouldnt send to anyone except several friends/regs at 100s.

Ive got disconnected big time 4 times and 3 out of 4 occasions fellow regs blinded me out without mercy.

That was kinda long time ago when I was still living in Thailand. Those 3 regs play 60s or 30s nowadays. So it says something

The only guy who sent me back 100 usd is still a crusher at 100s.

And yes its abarone68 of course


Wasn't totally sure you'd understand what it was for, but felt I should send anyway. I think I even wrote about my plan in the chat.

Also, the player in question who I sent back to in my first post reached out to me and thanked me. I'm a sap, that sort of thing means a lot to me.

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Originally Posted by squire1888
does ur mtt stable specialize in the crushung of the $11 phase mtt
Haven't shipped it yet, but we've got one 2nd and two 3rds. Maybe this Sunday we'll take it down!

In other news, I've now finished all three legs of the freeroll. No money for anyone!



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Originally Posted by acbarone
1) [x] Gym x16
2) [x] 120+ hours at the tables
3) [x] 3,500 Spins
Should reach 5,000 Spins tomorrow. Might go for 6,000 in June because the GF is working 12 hour shifts each of the next five days.

#finishstrong
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06-28-2016 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by acbarone
These are sad things, right? It's sad that showing common courtesy (and trying to be 'nice') can only backfire in this industry. Could make the same 'negative freeroll' point about offering advice to fellow poker players, whether it be stuff about the actual game or off the felt.
offering advice a little different from disconnects, i wouldn't go as far as that in terms of it being black and white. the simple fact is that if you show decency as a human being re: disconnects, you wait for everyone and probably 5% wait for you (maybe I am overly pessimistic, I wonder what the actual percentage is). so you look at the monetary difference and ask if that amount is worth preserving your idea of humanity.
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06-28-2016 , 02:08 PM
mersenneary used to say it best. part of being good at online poker is the online part. their fault for no backup
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06-28-2016 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Pulaski
mersenneary used to say it best. part of being good at online poker is the online part. their fault for no backup
This

I wait for like 3 ppl in my games
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06-28-2016 , 06:13 PM
If nobody ever sends back, everyone is responsible for their internet connection and there's no negative freeroll.

I think it's actually better for "humanity", because it will lead towards more secure internet connections during games and people being more responsible on crappy internet connections (I always go back to the Bjorni incident with Plauzee as an example).
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06-29-2016 , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by acbarone
#finishstrong
So much for that.

Dropped $3k yesterday and another $5k today, both with a 3% EV ROI.



Ho hum, barring some massive bink it looks like another month way under. If so, it'll be the 10th month in a row of not reaching the red line.

I don't want to spend too much time focusing on the runbad (because seriously, what good does that do me?) but today a reg complained in chat about how bad he runs and I nearly lost my mind. There's no Spin reg on Stars who's more below EV than I am over the past year or so. That isn't hyperbole, I mean it 100% literally and it can be backed up with actual data. Can't tell what the exact amount is at the moment because RIP tracking site, but it was $80k at the start of the month and can add another $15k or so to that total for June. Six figs of lost equity, here we come.

Since Sept, not including June:



Welp, two more days left in the month. Could grind more tonight but it's late and I'm going to try and recharge my batteries for tomorrow. Never easy to get back on the horse after a rough day/downswing, but eventually this stuff turns around and I can't reap the benefits if I'm not at the tables. And who knows, maybe tomorrow we bink (Or run at EV, I'll settle for that too ).
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06-29-2016 , 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by acbarone
So much for that.

Dropped $3k yesterday and another $5k today, both with a 3% EV ROI.



Ho hum, barring some massive bink it looks like another month way under. If so, it'll be the 10th month in a row of not reaching the red line.

I don't want to spend too much time focusing on the runbad (because seriously, what good does that do me?) but today a reg complained in chat about how bad he runs and I nearly lost my mind. There's no Spin reg on Stars who's more below EV than I am over the past year or so. That isn't hyperbole, I mean it 100% literally and it can be backed up with actual data. Can't tell what the exact amount is at the moment because RIP tracking site, but it was $80k at the start of the month and can add another $15k or so to that total for June. Six figs of lost equity, here we come.

Since Sept, not including June:



Welp, two more days left in the month. Could grind more tonight but it's late and I'm going to try and recharge my batteries for tomorrow. Never easy to get back on the horse after a rough day/downswing, but eventually this stuff turns around and I can't reap the benefits if I'm not at the tables. And who knows, maybe tomorrow we bink (Or run at EV, I'll settle for that too ).
Hey Aron,

I have a lot of respect for a high stakes spin player like yourself in terms of work ethic and perseverance, but what I do not get is why guys like you keep playing spins?
I mean you see yourself how massively difficult it is to run good in this high variance format.
I'm sure you are a very good and solid poker player that has a much higher edge in other formats of the game? Why not make the transition to something with a whole lot less variance? I saw in the past that you played MTTs as well and also were successful?
Maybe it is me not seeing through the obvious reason for you, but I am merely trying to grasp why?
It sure would be a lot less stressful...?
Grtz Fives
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06-29-2016 , 09:30 AM
acbarone is the only reg that I feel bad for being 800 bis underev.

At least he s handsome and got a girlfriend <3
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06-29-2016 , 10:04 AM
just found your thread; snapsubbed. Inspiring ! If it helps, i also ended 2015 running 750bi under ev in stars.fr spins over ~22k games in 50s and 100s. Congrats on your volume and work ethics; hope i'll see rayden and you rarely on my tables !
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06-29-2016 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FiveTenss
Hey Aron,

I have a lot of respect for a high stakes spin player like yourself in terms of work ethic and perseverance, but what I do not get is why guys like you keep playing spins?
I mean you see yourself how massively difficult it is to run good in this high variance format.
I'm sure you are a very good and solid poker player that has a much higher edge in other formats of the game? Why not make the transition to something with a whole lot less variance? I saw in the past that you played MTTs as well and also were successful?
Maybe it is me not seeing through the obvious reason for you, but I am merely trying to grasp why?
It sure would be a lot less stressful...?
Grtz Fives
It's a fair question. The short answer is that I feel it's still in my best interests to keep playing them. Longer answer, well, I'll just use bullet points.
  • Highest EV hourly: SNGs are ~dead, even when they were alive in early to mid 2015 I had a much higher earning potential in Spins. While I don't consider myself a top reg, I'm at like 4% for the year in $100s and if I managed to run at EV, I'd make close to $200/hour.
  • Highest actual hourly: Since I can play 30-35 games/hour, even with intense run bad the RB makes things more palatable. If the month ended today I'd have a $100+ hourly despite running $15k+ under expectation.
  • Most freedom: With SNGs, I was locked into playing peak hours. Schedule was like 10 AM to 4 PM and if I missed that window, well gg me. In Spins I'm not stuck like that. I can take more short breaks, longer breaks, or even skip that entire morning/afternoon shift and get the games in later. Yesterday, for example, I barely played before 6 PM but still managed to get in 150+ games.
  • Not everyone runs this bad: If my rough stretch was considered normal by Spin standards, I'd have more reservations about continuing. But from what I've seen (Other players' results, Swongsim, etc) I simply happen to be on the worst side of variance. A small % of players will run terribly and unfortunately my sample is in that segment of the population.
  • Could Bink 1M: This isn't an actual reason, it's more of a joke but there's definitely a 'chasing the dragon' element at play. Makes the grind more fun at times, I think. Each game I load is a chance to win a cool milly. A boy's gotta dream, right?



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Originally Posted by RaydeN08
acbarone is the only reg that I feel bad for being 800 bis underev.

At least he s handsome and got a girlfriend <3
This is the nicest thing any reg has ever said to me.

Kinda reminds me of the scene in Seinfeld where Jerry suggests people say something other than 'God bless you' to someone when they sneeze. You're down a bunch of money? Well at least you're handsome!



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Originally Posted by aliku
just found your thread; snapsubbed. Inspiring ! If it helps, i also ended 2015 running 750bi under ev in stars.fr spins over ~22k games in 50s and 100s. Congrats on your volume and work ethics; hope i'll see rayden and you rarely on my tables !
Hmm, I'm torn on this one. On one hand, it's nice to know I'm not alone and other people feel my pain. On the other, it makes it harder to complain about how bad I run.
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06-29-2016 , 09:15 PM
Hey aaron,

Sucks to hear about the run bad lately (I've lurked your threads for a while). Maybe its +EV to work on fixing your site for a few days instead of playing? If you want I could help you out with whatever issue your facing with the site being down (I'm a software engineer).

Keep playing the same!
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06-29-2016 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jduyon
Hey aaron,

Sucks to hear about the run bad lately (I've lurked your threads for a while). Maybe its +EV to work on fixing your site for a few days instead of playing? If you want I could help you out with whatever issue your facing with the site being down (I'm a software engineer).

Keep playing the same!
Yes, I'd love the help in fixing my site. Just kinda figured it was gone forever.

If you're interested, PM me and I'll hire you to solve the problem.
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06-29-2016 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by acbarone
Yes, I'd love the help in fixing my site. Just kinda figured it was gone forever.

If you're interested, PM me and I'll hire you to solve the problem.
Could you PM your email? I just created this account, can't PM anyone.
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06-29-2016 , 10:09 PM
Ah your account can't send or receive PMs yet. If you leave your Skype info I can add you, otherwise we'll have to wait a few days (or is it based on # of posts?) until you get PM privileges.
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06-29-2016 , 10:20 PM
I'd rather not make my skype account public. Here, I made a throw away gmail account lol: justinbergs5416 at gmail.com
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07-01-2016 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by acbarone
Ho hum, barring some massive bink it looks like another month way under. If so, it'll be the 10th month in a row of not reaching the red line.

I don't want to spend too much time focusing on the runbad (because seriously, what good does that do me?) but today a reg complained in chat about how bad he runs and I nearly lost my mind. There's no Spin reg on Stars who's more below EV than I am over the past year or so. That isn't hyperbole, I mean it 100% literally and it can be backed up with actual data. Can't tell what the exact amount is at the moment because RIP tracking site, but it was $80k at the start of the month and can add another $15k or so to that total for June. Six figs of lost equity, here we come.
Wrote that post late at night, and after I woke up in the morning I felt a bit guilty for writing it. I really try to not fall into the 'woe is me, I run so bad' rabbit hole but occasionally I slip up. In the grand scheme of things, I run pretty damn good and it just so happens that I've had an unlucky stretch in one aspect of life over the past year or so.

My sheepishness was exacerbated by the fact that I ran amazingly well on the following day, almost recovered the entire $8k in ~120 games.



For the month, I hit all three freerolls and then some. Ended up playing 140+ hours, 5500+ Spins, and a handful of MTTs in addition to all the coaching/etc for my MTT stable.

Happy with the adjustments to my game, before the tracking site died I had a ~2,000 game sample where my cEV vs regs had skyrocketed. Not exactly sure how I'm going to continue monitoring that, but at the very least I can now somewhat defend myself vs BigHusla's insults.

Ended the month with 46 cEV (6-tabling $100s). Total profit is $20k+ not including revenue from staking/coaching/etc. After that downer I wanted to just get into the fetal position and let the rest of the month pass me by, but I kept grinding and was rewarded for it. Results are even better considering I ran $13k under EV.



Not sure about July plans yet, will come back and post something about goals, freerolls, etc later today or tomorrow.
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07-01-2016 , 03:39 PM
Your my hero ❤️
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07-01-2016 , 04:34 PM
Damn, you are really crushing in all aspects . If you were a 30s player at this moment playing 3 tables with around 50 cev , what would you focus on first : Increasing the number of tables or aiming to move up to 100s and only after that increase them ?
What monitor / s do you use and how much it influence your grinding ?
Thanks in advance for the answers , Ive been following your blog for a while but in silence
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07-02-2016 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by game2eazy
Your my hero ❤️
Had trouble deciding between this, Enrique Iglesias' Hero and Bette Middler's Wind Beneath my Wings.

Spoiler:


Also while scouring YouTube I misclick iso reshoved in the Big $44, somehow no one called me and I KO'd the shortstack. Serious run good IMO.

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Originally Posted by Bugghy
Damn, you are really crushing in all aspects . If you were a 30s player at this moment playing 3 tables with around 50 cev , what would you focus on first : Increasing the number of tables or aiming to move up to 100s and only after that increase them ?
Depends, what are your long-term goals? I've always been a "play-lower, have less variance, and crush hourly' kind of guy and the only reason that's changed in the past 18 months or so is because I'm better equipped financially to handle the swings.

50 cEV at $30s isn't bad, but there's surely room for improvement. While your current leaks might not be costing you much at the $30s, I'd guess the $100s regs would do a better job of exploiting them.

Lots of players have this ego driven desire to move up as fast as possible when their earning potential is much higher at lower stakes. I see this a ton in my MTT stable and it blows my mind. Having a lower ROI means more swings and I'm obviously fully aware of how bad they can be, so I'd suggest not moving up/adding games until you're satisfied with the current state of your game.

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Originally Posted by Bugghy
What monitor / s do you use and how much it influence your grinding ? Thanks in advance for the answers , Ive been following your blog for a while but in silence
Have one monitor in addition to my laptop, it's a 27-inch LG. I used to play 30-35 tables on one monitor so 4-6 Spins is very easy on the eyes.
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07-02-2016 , 07:41 PM
Have you considered playing spins on any other sites? With your work ethic you surely could win the S&C leaderboard in WPN and the hero spins on party seem to me to have less variance although I could be wrong. Gl in July! Btw are you a Canucks fan yet?
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07-02-2016 , 09:39 PM
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Have you considered playing spins on any other sites? With your work ethic you surely could win the S&C leaderboard in WPN and the hero spins on party seem to me to have less variance although I could be wrong. Gl in July! Btw are you a Canucks fan yet?
I'm pretty sure the major factor for 2016 is redeeming as much as possible from SNE.
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07-03-2016 , 12:31 PM
Nice1 acbarone! Appreciate you still posting on small stakes stt forum. Interested in how your move to spins is working out for you. Keep up the blog and the good work!
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07-03-2016 , 02:27 PM
sick results man!
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