I think he bluffcatched Layne Flack poolboy

What do you think of the idea of introducing a BitB coaching site? Sure you spread some secrets to the world and hurt the stable's EV but then again it seems that you have a ton of world class coaching vids already available and it wouldn't take much effort/other resources to create a site and the stable's value doesn't solely come from videos. Given that RIO charges $100/month and especially MTT content significantly decreased I'm sure there would be enough people interested in getting a subscription that it would make up for the EV lost by the stable.

Last but not least it's obv good marketing for your stable.

Our guys stay coached by us because we don't do it as a training site. We would have to wait till all contracts are up etc first. Our other coaches, whilst happy to coach in a closed, community environment wouldn't want to do public coaching either.

I think runitonce is actually very, very poor these days. Sure a bunch of nl500 videos are fine, but the mtt content is very lacklustre.

To have a good training site, IMO you need NEW guys and the job of the training site is to bring in, new/fresh guys with new content that helps you stay ahead of the curve. I think RIO, used to do an awesome job of this, but it seems recently they just put their resources into the actual poker site or something.

When did RIO last bring in a new guy for MTT that everybody was like WOW about? Cardrunners/pokerstrategy/deuces cracked had the top guys in the game and new elite guys every month, I think RIO has gone extremely stale recently with a lot of recycled content.

Theres definitely an opening for an MTT site, I think an exclusive MTT training site would work really well, thats the direction poker is going anyway, having half the videos or wte as cash game for most of the subscribers I'm sure is not gto. I think specialist sites is the way forward, so a site for live cash games and a site for MTT's.

Amen, but the "smarter" mtt guys watch the cash vids as well so you don't need to specialise the site in one area.

What are the av and total roi for that ytd graph?

I mean the cash vids in general, especially live play will be so much different to how we should be playing. For example some positions k7o will be a fold in cash and a snap defend in Tournies. 3betting ranges should be constructed totally different etc. main things can take from it are hand selection and bet sizing, but even then in MTTs we should be using very different flop sizings than cash games due to the populations responses.

Not sure about Rois, will check for the next one ��

What would be your "plan" if someone came to you as a winner @ $20 abi, didn't have volume required to join BitB, but wanted to improve as a player? I know in the past RIO maybe, but now?

We would just turn them down unfortunately.

This hand was exactly 3 years ago today.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...667_6081FB2D0C

5th hand of the Sunday warm up. I had just lost AA v Ax deep in a live tournament and was telling my room mate I'm never ****ing playing tournies again (I was barely ever playing MTTs at this point ) I sleep in late on Sunday, wake up, my room mate in the hotel is grinding and it's that moment when you see somebody with 5+ tables and you're like **** it that looks fun. No food, I just launch the session and run so so good. I must have been playing pretty bad. I was just hyper lag I think and nobody knew who I was
And everybody folded.

In the hand ^ I think villain on the replayer had Jj, after the hand I stood up, tore my top off, threw it on the floor and said "nobody has he balls to do that,
Nobody!"

My flop size is obviously horrific, and even pre flop is a huge punt lol. Pretty funny looking back at how cringey it was, but that's tournament poker I guess, everybody (including me right now) think they are better than they are.

nice flop sizing buddy <3

Amazing

Haha Never gets old

Misreading the title and being like..

..He can't be that bad
..He can't be that bad
..He can't be that bad
..He can't be that bad
..He can't be that bad

..oh, ups.

P.S. Yeah I remember some fun pots lately between us. Always fun

Keep up the good work attitude! Maybe one day we'll manage get some beers in at a random live trip or smth and I'm looking forward to see the "shirt-show" IRL then

It's pretty funny for me to realize we met first time a month after that hand

Haha yeah.

A.s.e high, was advertising a room on 2p2. I hit him up and was like "yo would like to take the room"

He messaged me back soemthing brutal like "you better not be a ****ing nerd and actually have a personality or you won't be welcome"

😂😂

Question:

Should staking/coaching sites put on their banners/marketing that they are #1 in the world?

Discuss.

Absolutely not.

It can be very misleading and the site could always make up their own criteria for why they are #1 in the world.

would be interested in seeing graphs at some point on different structure speeds, super slow (for big wcoops or 500+s idk), regular speed, turbo, hyper turbo

Announced a cool new promo exclusively for our guys relay.

@everyone We are going to be running a fun promotion over the next six months leading upto the Pokerstars Championship in Barcelona, details of which you can find here :

http://www.pokerstarslive.com/champi...nts/barcelona/

On the first Tuesday of every month there will be a private bitB MTT on Pokerstars in the home games section (club id is xxxxxx and invitation code is xxxxxxxxx$.

The dates will be :

07/03/17
04/04/17
02/05/17
06/06/17
04/07/17
01/08/17

They will all start at 19:00 CET and will be played on stake.

The points system will work as follows :

1 point - Participating
3 points - FT
5 points - 3rd
10 points - 2nd
15 points - winner

The prizes will be as follows :

Each monthly winner gets a free session with James

Overall winner gets a package for EPT barca (100% of bi €5300 for 50% of profits + flights & hotel)
Overall 2nd place gets package for ESPT barce (100% of bi €1100 for 50% of profits + flights & hotel)
Overall 3rd place gets a freeroll into espt 100% of €1100 bi for 50% of profits
Overall 4th place gets freeroll into espt 100% of €1100 bi for 50% of profits
Overall 5th place gets freeroll into espt 100% of €1100 bi for 50% of profits

We will be planning another big trip for this event like last year, may as well get there for free

Good luck all.

#1 in the world seems like a worthless statement to me because it's way too general.

A stable could market itself as the most profitable stable (if thats true) but that's not necessarily a good thing for it's players.

It's hard to rate training content obectively and almost no one will even have access to all of it.
Even then, different content will be optimal for different players.

In general I think that statements like "we are the #1 ..." won't convince the type of people you want to do business with anyways and makes your product look like something out of an infomercial.

From a purely marketing GTO point of view, products that target recs might benefit it.

I agree, but even "most profitable stable" how do you know if you are or not?

I saw sites advertising here on 2p2 or on their own sites / sharkscope as the best staking site in the world, but doesn't really sound fair and puts them in some uneducated people's eyes higher than they should be and before you know it you're commited in a 12 month contract and find out you don't actual like the stable.

I think that's a hard problem to solve since there is so little regulation in the poker coaching / staking market.

While I think that it's clearly unethical to prey on the uninformed players seeking a stake obv also need to educate themselves about what they are doing.

Would it really benefit you?

Surely no one who is thinking of signing up will do so without reading this thread, and anyone who would think of signing up based on you claiming to be #1 and not doing any more research isn't the type of person you'd want anyway?

We aren't intending to doing it on 2p2 etc, but our competitors do.

I guess BBZ is pretty fair the way theirs is worded.

"Where we strive to provide the best coaching and staking platform available."

Do you mean from moral point of view or marketing strategy?

I mean from moral point of view is not right/ok to advertise/promote/tell story/mislead for smth that in reality is not true or reasonably close to the truth, but

From marketing point of view u should advertise your product best you can TOP SHOP/ toothpaste style( all TOP SHOP pproducts are N1, all toothpaste are best ;-) ) abd i dint see nothing wrong about that but the catch here imo is that it all get back like boomerang the more agro marketing ( based on truth or untruth facts) campaign you have the more your product is out there and is exposed on critical review and the real true facts come out very quick ( time based) hyperbolically expanded/multiplied ( idk did i use right wording here) so if the facts advertised are untrue the bad got multiplayed because of agro marketing campaign and product got a **** ton of bad very bad reviews and that will backfire, but if the fact is true customers are satisfied you dont get as much great/ good reviews ( numbers) but the good voice that the product is good real thing is spread man to man

So to sum.it up I think you can advertise your product the whatever way ( wording) you want untill you keep target group ( customers) expectations satisfied ( for ex if some mediocre poker player start teaching some guy who is new to poker how to play, tell him some math, some tricks, some spots etc and this new guy start winning in some games that this " teacher" can beat, the student,new guy, will think tthat this player is probably in the best in the world, but if this same mediocre player starts advertise as best in the world and starts talking advertise/ try teaching strategy to more advanced/ better players he will get mocked and this will backfire to him and he will now loose all thise new players that he can teach smth fir real)

P.S. Btw, I dont think in real world marketing/ advertising there is such a thing called beeing "FAIR" with your competition, you just say all the best for you product ab try to make it to your target group as much desirable as you can so they will get motivation/drive to try/use it

P.P.S. One more thing, if you say

we are N1 ( insert product name ) in the world

What dies it mean?? Are you tge most masive one, most advanced, most used...??? It means nothing to me, but sure it sounds/looks intriguing so one will get more interested at the topic/ product and do some research on tge subject

Wow.

Today looks bad lol

Let's just say #prayforbitB