I guess that's why I answered 100k lol.


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I think 10k month increasing with inflation is good number for me
If i can have that secure every month for rest of my life i will spend lets say in next 20 year 5-8k month for traveling and meating new people different cultures and give the rest as charity to people surrounding me ( mostly to help young children that have potencial but dint have $$$ to educate)
As i get older i will travel lest and have less expenses think around 3-4k and give again rest to charity ( scholarship, food, clothing etc)


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6000 runners in last weeks Sunday million

-Virgins: 510
-Murderers: 12 ( i put all that have kill human before cops,soldiers, self defence etc)
-People who think they are genuinely the best player in the tournament: 52
-People who think they are genuinely in top 100 in field: 900
-Haven't showered that day: 4510


Are on drugs: 3165
Don't know that a flush beats a straight: 310
Play on their parents' account: 512 ( virgins ;-))
Get ghosted: last 100 ~20/ last 27 ~5/ft ~2

I'm shocked at some estimates on number of murderers in 6000 Sunday Million players. What are the reasons behind the high numbers? Is it a case of defining murder as 'anyone who has killed anyone', or are we talking about people who have been or would be convicted if found out about?

Posting to do my bit for charity and to confirm BITB is a great stable if you want to get to the top nothing else comes close imo. I only lasted 2 months before i requested to pay my makeup and leave. Found i am quite lazy and wasn't enjoying getting up early for 3/4 group coaching sessions a week. Don't join unless your willing to really put the hours in to improve, but if your driven they give you all the tools to be the best in the business at mtts. Also very professionally run alot of my friends/acquaintances are backed by other stables and just hearing how they get sent money at the start of the day and thats basically it no support no coaching BITB is leaps and bounds ahead in all departments.

Not affiliated in any way just giving credit where its due and this was close to a year ago so im sure the processes have been refined since then so everything works smoother than ever.

Can't say im super happy about a team of 15 elite players teaching another 100 to destroy mtts as a own diming player. Great for the owners but with sites squeezing us again and again and being outside of a network such as this its hard as ever to make a living at this game while these elite stables are sucking up all the money. As a own dime player would be looking to diversify your interests as soon as possible. Doesn't seem likely 2020 is going to be viable to grind online poker for a living unless your in one of these cliques.

Google drive works well. Just upload it and get the shareable link to it.

Hey,

Awesome thread!

Any chance you could wirte about how much you think late regging changes ROIs at different stakes. For example how big the difference is between regging a 109$ 3k gtd at bb 30 vs bb 150? And what about a 11$ 5k gtd with similar structure?

Thanks and gl!

Been thinking about the work question on and off for the last 3 days.

Fwiw i can understand someone with kids taking one of the semi normal 4-10k offers, in their eyes their higher purpose is their kids.

For someone young/single, i think you need to have some creative/competitive focuses in life. For example really getting into sport and making your time about spreading a message you need to, whether that be political, or in any other way that adds to/ improves the world.

If work even includes things like that where your not doing it for money, but working on a purpose, then I guess I don't think I should accept any offer. Im sure I would probably accept an outrageous offer eg over 100k a month, as its too alluring to turn down a lifestyle of any car, any yacht, anywhere. I think after 6 months-3 years I would regret it, when you feel you can not do anything productive and your life is just superficial.

So you couldn't just spend some of the £1.2 million a year your making to set up set up a soup kitchen for the homeless, invest in facilities for underprivileged kids or whatever you need to do to make yourself not feel worthless???

As someone who has never played backed in his life or even sold action for anything, the idea of consistent ghosting going on by other staking companies is so fkn disheartening. As it is these stables make the games infinitely tougher. I only even heard about ghosting through learning about it on twoplustwo threads lol. Almost didn't want to believe it coz it's so scummy and goes against everything I have ever learned or enjoyed about playing poker. But I'm naive. People can get ghosted or solve all their tough spots with software but for me it's all getting a bit boring now. I don't have that same desire these young kids do. I'm glad to see bitb is a more honest stable tho that upholds their integrity. That speaks volumes to the people who are in charge.

Prob gna become a live donk or start to follow the esoteric path that resonates through my soul. Gna b tough to keep up with these wizards that dedicate themselves to improving so consistently and genuinely just have that innate hunger to succeed.

I love the thread tho and am a huge fan of all the effort you put into your ventures within the poker domain and outside of it. It shows incredible dedication. Opening a bar, a stable, considering starting a football team (one of my life dreams). That entrepreneurial spirit is inspiring and will take you to the stars mate! A HH of a deep run would b awesome.

Hey I wouldn't really worry too much about it. There's not that many stables and a lot of them are very busy or lazy. A lot of stables are owned by just one guy and if he has 30+ horses he can't just ghost everybody.. And then they have to be good at poker too. I wouldn't worry about it.

From what I've seen, at smaller stakes you just get chips handed to you at the early levels. I've analysed a lot of data from badgers and seen that evbb/100 are considerably higher before bb500 and that's when the donations happen. So yeah, you're going to win way less later on in tournaments. However hourly can probably be better if you max late reg everything.

For high stakes it's a little bit of the opposite. Let's take the party 530. Playing deep there's lots of great players, some ok players etc, most of the work you spend time on is spent with like 10-50bbs, so playing from the start against say some guys who used to play cash and are now playing tournaments isn't smart.

i wouldn't really ever consider regging a $109 30 player tournament on Pokerstars unless there was a unique really good reason.

I remember timex told me once somewhere that Rois in the big buy in tournaments are pretty static when the structures are so great so late regging day 2 in an ept may not be too big of a disaster.

Hey, yeah I wouldn't really look at evbb/100 by itself for a few reasons.

1- sample sizes need to be quite large to take accurate data
2- if my player hasn't improved significantly in 100k hands there's a problem (100k starting to get close to an amount of data needed)

Generally later blind levels are more accurate and need less of a sample. But there's always going to be problems with the accuracy of the data.

Generally 5+ is decent. 3 or less is a worry for sure.

The guys who have 10+ just get things better than everybody else. I know around 10 guys in world who are winning et 9+ at evbb/100 at deeper stages of tournaments. Again though, a lot depends on a bunch of things. If somebody gamba too much early to get stacks, there naturally going to have higher evbb/100 deep in tournaments than somebody who is a solid reg, because they are going to have big chip stacks more often and have chances to lunish bubbles/fts etc, it doesn't mean their roi is higher than somebody with a way worse evbb/100 at deeper stages.

I ran with 10+ evbb/100 at deep stages for a long time, but I think that might have been me just punting a little bit too much early in tournaments, especially rebuys/reentries.

From a mental game point of view I try to do a lot of visualization. I remember sown tournament sessions where I played amazing and others where I didn't play great at all. The sessions I played best in were the ones where I played solid/aggressive and the ones j didn't play Great in were when I was borderline lunatic.

I would never do it right now so I'm not sure. I'm not actually coaching the guys who are borderline breakeven or playing lower stakes im mainly trying to spend my time mentoring the guys who are playing the high end of mid stakes and have chances to get to $200k+ ev/year.

I think to take somebody who is losing you need to mentor them in all forms of poker. I think it's usually a long process.

A few weeks ago I was considering trying to start a YouTube channel and get it as big as possible and one thing i wanted to do was take somebody from real life who has never played poker before and move them into my house and work with them every single day to get them as good as possible and follow their progress on YouTube and through this thread etc. maybe will do it next year, thjnk it would be pretty fun. European did it with a Finnish kid, who was playing a lot of 180s etc but I think he went back into university or something after a couple of months.

Played zero sessions this week but had a really decent sleeping schedule like 10pm-7am. Have studied a lot, read a lot. Went to Wimbledon with a friend for drinks/dinner and then yesterday went to Tooting to watch Newcastle and catch up with some friends from school.

One of my friends asked me what my plan was for after poker. I said "the plan is to have no plan" I don't think that's true though. Financial freedom whilst it is extremely desirable is not enough for a lot of people and I think I'm in that crowd. I love having something that's mine, nurturing it, improving it etc. with bitB I think we've done around 20% of what we could have done with it in terms of effort and final result and overall mould of the company. For our first proper project though I think we've all learned a lot from it. What we are good and not good at but also what we enjoy doing and what we really dislike doig and I think most importantly the type of people we enjoy working with and the type of people hat are a struggle to work with.

Not sure exactly what the next project will be that I want to do, I'm 100% sure that one day I want to be a professional football manager, but obviously want to do techy side projects too.

I thought of a cool name (maybe it's terrible ) for a house robot from the future that the world expects to have.

humAIns

I was watching Humans (uk tv show) and perhaps wrongly thought I found this huge creative freedom by adding an I to the title

Today is Sunday. Obviously I'll play, but today is also family day too. I always go for walk with the dogs and have a huge Sunday roast. Whilst playing against the Swedes I felt compelled to never take hours off and just grind, today I'm going to have to sleep after lunch because of my body clock being used to sleeping so early. I'm often found myself kind of not super focused when playing after a long nap though, tough to just transition from sleeping mode to 12 table high stakes mode. Wil be conscious about that and try not to autopilot etc.

Stable wise has been somewhat quiet this week, the week after series finish a lot of people take some time off. Will post graph for the week tomorrow, fingers crossed.

Anyway, end of random ramblings.

Good luck everybody today.

Hi i am a fan of you and your business but from a business point of view why would you not 1) let the feel players keep playing but maybe not have the coaching and keep making you money and 2) keep the guys who weren't going to improve in the stable ?

Is it it because you don't have time for them or is it purely an 'ethos' as if its the latter (from someone who has started his own business and also missed out on maximizing business $EV) i would recommend a rethink.

Sorry if it sounds condescending i can assure you that isn't my intention i am just interested / fascinated.

"So you couldn't just spend some of the £1.2 million a year your making to set up set up a soup kitchen for the homeless, invest in facilities for underprivileged kids or whatever you need to do to make yourself not feel worthless??? "

Like I said, it depends on what is classed as work. I would accept offers if I was allowed to do creative projects to grow that I felt improved the world etc.

Im saying if the terms are you literally can not do anything, aka no putting your money to use to improve the world, I think I would regret taking any offer.

Everyone has a different idea of what work means. Some people see it as putting in time for a monetary return. Others see it as anything that they do that is productive. In my opinion the way people understand concepts like work will change a lot in the coming decades.

Resources are everything in the stable, everything is very driven to drive people through the tiers. If we don't believe somebody will get to the top 3 tiers then we are wasting their time as much as ours. If their ev is 20$k/year and are t likely to improve then they are way better playing for a stable where there isn't coaching and isn't as high demands and they get a higher % of the 20k.

We also have a lot of smaller groups that we put together and they work together every day, if we kept people that would hold others back then it wouldn't be fair on the guys. Our business model is just pushing for excellence and were Ok losing a little MU here or there. Let's say we dropped 10x5k in makeup, we believe that we can recoup that money by giving guys playing higher more attention to excel.

Some of the guys who we did "drop" went into private backing with some members/coaches/investors of the stable on a higher % deal but mostly just to play rather than getting coaching.

If we wanted to go down the mass route of having lots of players makig guaranteed profit but without much room of improvement I think we'd be at least 100% bigger than we are at the moment, at least from a numbers POV.

We've had the debate internally a lot of times, it's something we don't all agree 100% on at times as sometiems it's tough to walk past money and not pick it up, but if it means *insert metaphor about walking down the street to something bjg*

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I would really be thinking about have btb2 a stable that runs itself relatively independently and makes you guys the $70k a year or whatever you were losing $70k is so much money ! You are smart enough to know things change quick in poker and ask Patrick from 10 years ago if he would turn down 70k a year.

( obviously ignore if its just a resources thing )

Its so funny i have been in your something big scenario before and looking back did create something special but now i have kids etc ( yadda yadda wise old man yawn ) i would snap take the cash lol.

anything you can do about the ridic late game structures on party ? i really thought when you became ambassador that these would be fixed, but its just ridic how bad they are, i know this isnt down to you at all but surely you can make some suggestions to add some levels and improve the avg stack towards late game ?

This will sound like a big brag, but I've been on 3 ft's tonight and all had really great structures. ATM there is 40+bb average with 9 left and 16 minutes until the next level. Albeit at a $530.

I can look into it sure.

im not being a c*nt here, just that highest stakes have those structures and lower-mid stakes structures are appalling when deep, would be really good if you could help sort them out and much apprecitated, messaged gilly to tell him to tell you i wasnt calling you out or anything about this, just that its ridic how bad the structures actually are and something has to be done, im playing less on party because of them for sure and i know others are too and you're prob the only one who can get something done about them so that's why im asking.

thanks for the reply

Just looked at stuff running now:

HR Avg stack 240k, bb 60k 8 left
title fight bb 120k avg stack 5.6m, 8 left
main event bb 300k avg stack 7.2m

Anyway, will keep upto date with the thread in MTT community and keep this thread a little bit different, but I'm working daily to try and give good feedback to improve things (Y)

np thanks for looking into, and best of luck for the year LFG !!

Soooo tired now.

Woke up 6:30 to my dogs. Up till 12 then went for Sunday roast in Richmond. £100 for two?! Sunday roast is big tradition in UK. Probably my favourite food and is typically £10-15. I'm anything but a nit and have ate £400+ steaks but for Sunday roast they're taking the piss, but my tongue despite some dubious service.

Got home and had two options. 1) watch tv with family or 2) late reg the kick off. Didn't even Come close to going to play. I watched all 6 episodes of the jinx first 5 episodes are pretty **** the second time through but the final episode is one of most epic episodes ever imo.

Missed late reg to the warm up, but grinded a really solid session. I changed 3/4 things to my game based on how I think current population is playing, ran very good and final tabled all three of the $530s on Party, 1st/3rd/5th for combined $40+k.

Haven't slept for 24 hours, but will fall asleep after posting this.

Busy week this week.

Monday, business meeting then live tournament at the VIC
Tuesday, wealth management meeting/first consultation
Wednesday, theatre
Thursday, parents arrive
Friday/Saturday/some of Sunday. Boris Becker SNG promo weekend in Rosdodov

Bunch of bitB stuff, some reading, some poker study. Should be a fun/busy week.