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01-16-2011 , 10:48 AM
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01-16-2011 , 11:27 AM

Session 18 - Step 1 Complete!


Weeeeeeeeeeee, Made the $1.5k mark! Got up early again when my gf went to work, like 9:30, even tho was tired as trying to be more productive. Grinded till about 12, when watched Newcastle footy match. Was so close to making $1.5k at that point, $27 off. Decided to have a short session from 1:30 - 3pm whilst watching first half of Liverpool match in background - I registered for wayyyy more 45s than 180s as I didnt want to hit a downswing and wanted to get to the $1.5k mark and I think I do it more frequently playing 45s.
And yayyyyyyy I've just done it!
Anyhow its 3pm and I'm off to the pub to watch Manchester vs Spurs. Come on coys beat the scum!
Anyhow it was two goodish sessions, didnt close out 180s but did well in 45s.



Session Begin Bankroll: $1429.63
Session End Bankroll: $1536.07
Session Profit/Loss: $106.44
Seission Graph:




Overall Profit/Loss: $1236.07
Overall Hourly: $14.710



Step 1 Proof:

Overall Graph:

Overall Stats:

Overall Day log:

Weeeeeeeeeeee. Don't think I get a chance to start step 2 today, because friends 21st birthday so meant to be going to really posh hilton rooftop bar tonight. Might do though, anyhow nice to get step 1 done.
Nearly up to $15 per hour
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01-16-2011 , 12:12 PM
yo dude

just noticed your challenge and I think this will be very constructive for you either way it goes.
I read MTTC regularly, and remember in november/december to think that even if you were a ok/good player, you really seemed to have tilt issues. So great step up doing this like a nit, and GL to you.

also, on the side, just two things I thought reading this thread :
obv 1.5K to play the 12/180 is pretty thin, but you know it. GL at your shots.
also, maybe set yourself some volume goals so that you don't get stuck to watch your profit graph?
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01-16-2011 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chilin_dude

Session 18 - Step 1 Complete!


Weeeeeeeeeeee, Made the $1.5k mark! Got up early again when my gf went to work, like 9:30, even tho was tired as trying to be more productive. Grinded till about 12, when watched Newcastle footy match. Was so close to making $1.5k at that point, $27 off. Decided to have a short session from 1:30 - 3pm whilst watching first half of Liverpool match in background - I registered for wayyyy more 45s than 180s as I didnt want to hit a downswing and wanted to get to the $1.5k mark and I think I do it more frequently playing 45s.
And yayyyyyyy I've just done it!
Anyhow its 3pm and I'm off to the pub to watch Manchester vs Spurs. Come on coys beat the scum!Anyhow it was two goodish sessions, didnt close out 180s but did well in 45s.



Session Begin Bankroll: $1429.63
Session End Bankroll: $1536.07
Session Profit/Loss: $106.44
Seission Graph:




Overall Profit/Loss: $1236.07
Overall Hourly: $14.710



Step 1 Proof:

Overall Graph:

Overall Stats:

Overall Day log:

Weeeeeeeeeeee. Don't think I get a chance to start step 2 today, because friends 21st birthday so meant to be going to really posh hilton rooftop bar tonight. Might do though, anyhow nice to get step 1 done.
Nearly up to $15 per hour
Ha ha you got to be a leeds Fan.

Thought you had class

All the best with this

MOT
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01-16-2011 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bibiscus
yo dude

just noticed your challenge and I think this will be very constructive for you either way it goes.
I read MTTC regularly, and remember in november/december to think that even if you were a ok/good player, you really seemed to have tilt issues. So great step up doing this like a nit, and GL to you.

also, on the side, just two things I thought reading this thread :
obv 1.5K to play the 12/180 is pretty thin, but you know it. GL at your shots.
also, maybe set yourself some volume goals so that you don't get stuck to watch your profit graph?
Yeah, I dont really have too massive tilt issues when playing, I tilted on the forum a bit - but that was brought on because I was playing out of my BR so each hit had much bigger effect than it should have done.
Hopefully playing within my br means that each beat won't have such an affect and will mean more profit long term.
Volume goals is an interesting one, I've thought about them, and dont want to put in too many hours like a robot rakeback grinder, but at same time want to put in decent hours. I'll have a think about it tho for sure.

And yep its thin, but mixing the 12s with 2s and 45s I think makes it a big better than playing 12s exclusively with 1.5k.
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Ha ha you got to be a leeds Fan.

Thought you had class

All the best with this

MOT
Hit the nail on the head there I'm going home to Leeds on Weds as got tickets to see us vs Arsenal, can't wait - hope we beat the frogs! (even if they are my fav prem team)
Thx
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01-16-2011 , 04:22 PM
Omg gratz hero!!! I'm gettin my first ever 12 shot this week wit ny backer!!! Go us!!!
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01-16-2011 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by loodachris99
Omg gratz hero!!! I'm gettin my first ever 12 shot this week wit ny backer!!! Go us!!!
Thanks, u 2 sir
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01-16-2011 , 07:43 PM
GL at the 12s, good start and you`ll be fine.
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01-16-2011 , 11:47 PM
gogogo
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01-17-2011 , 03:26 AM
Wow, this is just epic. Stumbled on the thread today and read it all.

I have trouble imagining myself 4 tabling. 20? How did you start multitabling and how long did it take you to get to 20?

I understand your dislike of laptops, but do you think someone can 4 table easily on one, with the HUD and everything?

Just trying to get started here, and your thread is motivating me.

Thanks,
Michael
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01-17-2011 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerSlut77
GL at the 12s, good start and you`ll be fine.
Thanks
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Originally Posted by fernythrills
gogogo
Thankyou!
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Originally Posted by madmanmike
Wow, this is just epic. Stumbled on the thread today and read it all.

I have trouble imagining myself 4 tabling. 20? How did you start multitabling and how long did it take you to get to 20?

I understand your dislike of laptops, but do you think someone can 4 table easily on one, with the HUD and everything?

Just trying to get started here, and your thread is motivating me.

Thanks,
Michael
Hey. I just gradually moved up tables I played. Wehen I started off I was playing 1 (and badly), and then as I improved the decision making got easier so I could add another. As you notice patterns you will be able to make the fold/raise decisions faster, almost instinctively - this means you can keep adding more and more tables.
When I'm playing cash tables, I could never play more than 8 or so profitably, because its not as simple as 'push/fold' as they're mainly 6 max and you need much more concentration imo.

You can deffo 4table tile and use a HUD on a laptop - I have done that a few times, though I wouldn't like to play anymore than about 8 tables on a laptop without a mouse, as I'd time out too much.
Thx & GL
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01-17-2011 , 01:36 PM
Update
This isn't a session update as I haven't played since last time - it is more an update as a tiny change of plan.
I dont want to be one of these peoples that makes a plan and then ignores it and hence goes busto, that annoys me - why make a plan if you wont follow it?

That said, instead of moving to the 2nd step an opportunity arose in the mttc forum where there is a $2.20 team competition.
Basically there are 5 teams of 4 players, and each player puts in $40 to the pot, and the team with the most profit wins the pot, and then split it with the players. So if we win I get $200 back = $160 profit. I also entered the MVP pot which is every player for themself for $30, and the winner gets something like $400.
I decided to enter this for a few reasons:

1. My team is really good, we're massively +EV.
2. I think I'm +EV in the mvp vs the field, even tho I wouldnt say I'm the favourite.
3. It makes me play more volume as someone suggested.
4. It should give me more money for when I go on to step 2, meaning I avoid having to move down as quick. If I were to win one of the comps plus profit say minimum of $200 that would be at least $1830 I have to start step 2 instead of step 1.

I hope no one thinks this is being dodgy or anything, as i want to make this challenge doable for everyone, its not like the challenge is exclusive - if player X were attempting this challenge they owuld be able to to enter the comp too.

Cheers!
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01-17-2011 , 02:06 PM
good luck dude!
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01-17-2011 , 02:55 PM
GL man
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01-17-2011 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chilin_dude
When I'm playing cash tables, I could never play more than 8 or so profitably, because its not as simple as 'push/fold' as they're mainly 6 max and you need much more concentration GL
So, are you serious here, or just kidding? Are you saying that you can play so many 180s at once because the strategy is simply shove or fold? Can you direct me to an overview of this sort of strategy? I am seeking to do something like your challenge, albeit on a much smaller scale, and I am looking for the correct strategies to use. I would appreciate any info you could point me to.

Thanks again, and I love this thread,
Michael
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01-17-2011 , 06:48 PM
Mate hes being serious Cash is much deeper than the 2.20s (turbos remember; where even if you are running well if you have only 20-30bb in the later stages). So in the 180s yes its a lot of (infact almost totally) push/fold just finding profitable spots to shove, usually with the best hand, but sometimes to squeeze. And late game in these I dont know about chilin_dude but there are usually like 20+ occaisons where im shoving any 2.

Cash on the other hand is way more nitty and has more complicated decisions coz the stacks are so much deeper (which is why I lose so much ****ing money playing it )

Also GLGL obv chilin I worked my way up to around 250 from $20 playing the 2s and some STT 6max simply coz i read this thread. Back to cash now coz my ego cant take the fact that im so bad at it. I will beat it!!
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01-17-2011 , 07:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chilin_dude
Update
This isn't a session update as I haven't played since last time - it is more an update as a tiny change of plan.
I dont want to be one of these peoples that makes a plan and then ignores it and hence goes busto, that annoys me - why make a plan if you wont follow it?

That said, instead of moving to the 2nd step an opportunity arose in the mttc forum where there is a $2.20 team competition.
Basically there are 5 teams of 4 players, and each player puts in $40 to the pot, and the team with the most profit wins the pot, and then split it with the players. So if we win I get $200 back = $160 profit. I also entered the MVP pot which is every player for themself for $30, and the winner gets something like $400.
I decided to enter this for a few reasons:

1. My team is really good, we're massively +EV.
2. I think I'm +EV in the mvp vs the field, even tho I wouldnt say I'm the favourite.
3. It makes me play more volume as someone suggested.
4. It should give me more money for when I go on to step 2, meaning I avoid having to move down as quick. If I were to win one of the comps plus profit say minimum of $200 that would be at least $1830 I have to start step 2 instead of step 1.

I hope no one thinks this is being dodgy or anything, as i want to make this challenge doable for everyone, its not like the challenge is exclusive - if player X were attempting this challenge they owuld be able to to enter the comp too.

Cheers!
GL with this

With Stars putting the 7/180s more prominently in the main lobby under the Tourney>All tab, and therefore hopefully having them going off much more often, the 7s may become more grindable, and you may have an opportunity to insert an interim step into your plan, weaning yourself off the 2s and towards the 12s much more comfortably.
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01-17-2011 , 07:09 PM
GL with the comp, its your thread and a good one so you can move the goal posts if you feel like it, i think you should make step 2 the 6.50s til you get to maybe 2500 or so.
lol. TT is obv faster at typing than me......
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01-17-2011 , 07:30 PM
Very impressive you've turned 300$ to 1500$ in couple weeks! Stay smart!
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01-17-2011 , 07:36 PM
lol same happend with me.......im putting my 12s shot off til friday night becuase im going to b playins 2s all week for the team contest....wich mite b better anyway cuz probably the fields are softer on friday night or saturday.....gl in the team contest..in gl when you start playin 12s
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01-17-2011 , 08:14 PM
nice thread, interesting to follow. gl sir

cant stress enough how nice it must be to have an IRL roll to depend on while you build up ur br. having to cashout after a few bad days really sucks and is a bit demoralizing. ****in gas prices! (and alcohol ldo)
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01-17-2011 , 11:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TeamTrousers
GL with this

With Stars putting the 7/180s more prominently in the main lobby under the Tourney>All tab, and therefore hopefully having them going off much more often, the 7s may become more grindable, and you may have an opportunity to insert an interim step into your plan, weaning yourself off the 2s and towards the 12s much more comfortably.

When did this happen???
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01-17-2011 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by madmanmike
So, are you serious here, or just kidding? Are you saying that you can play so many 180s at once because the strategy is simply shove or fold? Can you direct me to an overview of this sort of strategy? I am seeking to do something like your challenge, albeit on a much smaller scale, and I am looking for the correct strategies to use. I would appreciate any info you could point me to.

Thanks again, and I love this thread,
Michael
Yeah I'm serious, as wooz mentioned, whilst cash poker is usually 30+ bbs, these 180 turbos are only 50+bbs for the first 15 or so minutes. Considering that they last 90minutes to finish, that means that wayyyyy more time is with 10ish bbs than any other amount. There are tools such as sngwiz which will help you find good pushing and calling ranges, and once you have them roughly in your head, it becomes almost automatic making these choices.
If I were you I would go to both the stt forum and the mtt strat forum and read about the turbos. Try watching some 180 turbo strategy vids on strat sites if you are a member as well - and mainly practice.
The more volume you put in the more natural it will become.

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Originally Posted by Wooz.PG
Mate hes being serious Cash is much deeper than the 2.20s (turbos remember; where even if you are running well if you have only 20-30bb in the later stages). So in the 180s yes its a lot of (infact almost totally) push/fold just finding profitable spots to shove, usually with the best hand, but sometimes to squeeze. And late game in these I dont know about chilin_dude but there are usually like 20+ occaisons where im shoving any 2.

Cash on the other hand is way more nitty and has more complicated decisions coz the stacks are so much deeper (which is why I lose so much ****ing money playing it )

Also GLGL obv chilin I worked my way up to around 250 from $20 playing the 2s and some STT 6max simply coz i read this thread. Back to cash now coz my ego cant take the fact that im so bad at it. I will beat it!!
This is a great summary and much better way of expressing what i wanted to say! It may seem wrong to be shoving all in with 27os on the button, but it is the +EV play some of the times. You have to wrap your head around that you see.
Good luck at cash, I've given up on that tree - I'm never going to be a good enough cash player!
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Originally Posted by TeamTrousers
GL with this

With Stars putting the 7/180s more prominently in the main lobby under the Tourney>All tab, and therefore hopefully having them going off much more often, the 7s may become more grindable, and you may have an opportunity to insert an interim step into your plan, weaning yourself off the 2s and towards the 12s much more comfortably.
I've just seen 7 180s in the lobby and been amazed. I'm thinking that if I simply add them into step 2 AS WELL as 12s then they will lower the variance, since downswings won't be as severe, and then I can be playing the 12s,7s and 2s at the same time
Thanks for the heads up though!

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Originally Posted by PokerSlut77
GL with the comp, its your thread and a good one so you can move the goal posts if you feel like it, i think you should make step 2 the 6.50s til you get to maybe 2500 or so.
lol. TT is obv faster at typing than me......
Thanks for the compliment, and yeah I don't wanna be one of them people that changes the rules etc all the time since that sort of gets rid of the meaning of a rule in the firstplace.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Ezzo
Very impressive you've turned 300$ to 1500$ in couple weeks! Stay smart!
Thanks Took about a month overall with xmas in the middle think I played about 14days.

Quote:
Originally Posted by loodachris99
lol same happend with me.......im putting my 12s shot off til friday night becuase im going to b playins 2s all week for the team contest....wich mite b better anyway cuz probably the fields are softer on friday night or saturday.....gl in the team contest..in gl when you start playin 12s
GL in the contest too, though we will win.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rmfan31
nice thread, interesting to follow. gl sir

cant stress enough how nice it must be to have an IRL roll to depend on while you build up ur br. having to cashout after a few bad days really sucks and is a bit demoralizing. ****in gas prices! (and alcohol ldo)
Yep this is so so so nice I've got to say. In the past I haven't had the advantage of having money set aside for bills/living etc and withdrawing constantly was disheartening as makes it harder to move up. Luckily I have a chance to build a br without withdrawing in the near future which is where I am a luckbox!!!
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01-17-2011 , 11:23 PM

Session 18 - Step 1 Complete!

Started playing the $2.20 challenge today. Didn't start till late as I went to uni, and miracle of miracles - went to the gym on the way back too. Then cooked dinner for gf and me, it was a rare productive day, feels good! Played from about 8pm till 3am, pretty meh session didn't really cash many - best chance was early on after 30 or so I was itm in 4 and in last 20 of 2 others, and only managed a 3rd out of them all.
My team is off to a flier though, someone on our team got $600 profit from the 2.20 180s today, so we're up about $1k in total and outfront at the moment - weeeeee $200 for winning team hopefully coming my way.

Gonna try get up tomorrow about 10am and grind 10-1pm, go to uni and gym till 5pm, then grind 5-12pm and hopefully ship a +$200ish day.


Session Begin Bankroll: $1466.07
Session End Bankroll: $1529.52
Session Profit/Loss: $63.45
Seission Graph:




Overall Profit/Loss: $1229.52
Overall Hourly: $14.20


Looking forward to tomorrow. Need a +$200 day minimum to have chance of MVP, I think thats gonna need about $1k over 4days to ship it - so need a massive heater.
I'm hoping!!!
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01-17-2011 , 11:32 PM
gl in the contest. link to thread or can you post teams? so hard to dig through mttc when i forget which 180 man thread it was
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