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05-26-2017 , 10:06 PM
I don't think you have much incentive to limp pre unless very low rake (i.e. higher stakes) or people are making a lot of mistakes vs. your limp (i.e. isoing way too wide).

I'm c-betting here. If I checked I'm probably x/r vs. this sizing.

If we were a bit deeper I'd consider shipping river as a bluff as played, otherwise hero call is std.
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05-27-2017 , 04:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
I don't think you have much incentive to limp pre unless very low rake (i.e. higher stakes) or people are making a lot of mistakes vs. your limp (i.e. isoing way too wide).

I'm c-betting here. If I checked I'm probably x/r vs. this sizing.

If we were a bit deeper I'd consider shipping river as a bluff as played, otherwise hero call is std.
Heard Mixgrill talking about this very thing last night on Twitch.
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05-27-2017 , 07:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
I don't think you have much incentive to limp pre unless very low rake (i.e. higher stakes) or people are making a lot of mistakes vs. your limp (i.e. isoing way too wide).

I'm c-betting here. If I checked I'm probably x/r vs. this sizing.

If we were a bit deeper I'd consider shipping river as a bluff as played, otherwise hero call is std.
Good to hear that you think it's a bluff catch OTR. Villain would have to rely on me xc'ing twice AQ/AK. I think people chicken out very often with thin vbets at that spot. At best I'd put him on JJ.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Husker
Heard Mixgrill talking about this very thing last night on Twitch.
Yeah watched it as well. Someone asked in chat about limp strat & rake at 200z.
With 5% rake and 3€ cap (60€). At 1k = 6bb pot hits the cap. 500 = 12bb. 400 = 15, 200 = 30.
So you can see why it can be preferable at higher stakes, esp. >2k where rake cap hits with one bet.

I don't know what strategy is best. I remember from my Stars days, people started calling 3x with 96o, and that wasn't fun. Also some regs 3-bet >15%.
With new knowledge, I could go back to open raising, but I think it's more important to pick one strat and stick to it. It also takes a biiiig sample to figure out how good the strategy is.
I was one of the earliest 200 regs on Stars to use the strat, so come and limp at me bro's

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So today. Woke up after 4-5 hours of sleep. Saw that Bluffthespot stream was on, and watched the end of it. Then decided to spend the night grinding.
Started quite horribly, I got annoyed and depressed after the 67s two pair hand. Some other coolers as well, and thought "Oh really...?"

Fortunately there is light at the end of the tunnel
Got seat at 1k. Recreational got himself deep stacked, and then I started the grind to get his money. That can take hours!
Bought in for 500£, reloaded once, so that's ~4k £ profit from this table. Don't really wanna know the exact numbers. In 4 days we'll know. Such a big relief though.
Ran excellent and got the setups I was waiting for.

Results:

Fellow reg claimed that he lost 7x 50bb stacks at that table. Poor him.
Just shows you the nature of variance.

And the grinding hours as usual.


Really tired now, will focus on getting rest.
Best feeling ever to get out of a downswing
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05-28-2017 , 11:38 AM
No rest today!

Played well and happy to say that I ran really well today. Piling up them profits before end of the month!
Will be interesting to see how much I'm below EV. A lot I think.

I'll post some hand porn from yesterday's +4k £ table session

Mmmmmm......... can't run better!!!!
And yummy yummy that stack size

£10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: £1,329.01
BB: £896.70
Hero (UTG): £3,591.45
CO: £603.75
BTN: £699.30

SB posts SB £5.00, BB posts BB £10.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £15.00) Hero has 4 4

Hero raises to £30.00, fold, fold, SB calls £25.00, fold

Flop: (£70.00, 2 players) 4 3 2
SB checks, Hero bets £55.00, SB calls £55.00

Turn: (£180.00, 2 players) K
SB checks, Hero bets £150.00, SB raises to £380.00, Hero raises to £3,440.00 and is all-in, SB calls £864.01

River: (£2,668.02, 2 players) 6

Spoiler:
Hero shows 4 4 (Three of a Kind, Fours)
(Pre 81%, Flop 94%, Turn 98%)
SB shows 2 2 (Three of a Kind, Twos)
(Pre 19%, Flop 6%, Turn 2%)
Hero wins £4,860.01


Random stuff, so never be biased!
HUGE relief to win OTR though!

£10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: £3,856.16
BB: £315.60
Hero (UTG): £1,298.50
MP: £500.00
CO: £1,520.55
BTN: £495.00

SB posts SB £5.00, BB posts BB £10.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £15.00) Hero has T T

Hero raises to £30.00, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to £70.00, fold, Hero calls £40.00

Flop: (£150.00, 2 players) 3 8 5
SB bets £105.00, Hero calls £105.00

Turn: (£360.00, 2 players) 8
SB bets £252.00, Hero calls £252.00

River: (£864.00, 2 players) 2
SB bets £432.00, Hero calls £432.00

Spoiler:
Hero shows T T (Two Pair, Tens and Eights)
(Pre 54%, Flop 70%, Turn 68%)
SB shows J A (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 46%, Flop 30%, Turn 32%)
Hero wins £1,724.00


Sweet rungood O' mine. and thx poker gods for safe board runout

£10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: £2,116.16
CO: £530.60
Hero (BTN): £2,115.00
SB: £822.25
BB: £1,520.55
UTG: £1,076.00

SB posts SB £5.00, BB posts BB £10.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £15.00) Hero has 9 9

fold, MP raises to £20.00, fold, Hero raises to £100.00, fold, fold, MP calls £80.00

Flop: (£215.00, 2 players) 9 7 T
MP checks, Hero bets £160.00, MP calls £160.00

Turn: (£535.00, 2 players) 5
MP checks, Hero bets £430.00, MP calls £430.00

River: (£1,395.00, 2 players) K
MP checks, Hero bets £890.00, fold

Hero mucks 9 9 (Three of a Kind, Nines)

Hero wins £2,281.00

Running like Jesus. "Pinch me" is how I felt when turn it. I suppose vs someone with random tendencies, we could check back.

£10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: £2,146.86
CO: £432.85
Hero (BTN): £2,833.00
SB: £778.75
BB: £1,410.55
UTG: £538.30

SB posts SB £5.00, BB posts BB £10.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £15.00) Hero has K 8

fold, MP raises to £20.00, fold, Hero calls £20.00, SB calls £15.00, BB raises to £110.00, MP calls £90.00, Hero calls £90.00, fold

Flop: (£350.00, 3 players) K 8 4
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets £260.00, fold, MP calls £260.00

Turn: (£870.00, 2 players) K
MP checks, Hero bets £450.00, fold

Hero mucks K 8 (Full House, Kings full of Eights)

Hero wins £1,316.00

More random stuff.

£10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: £2,233.97
SB: £1,438.44
BB: £1,500.35
Hero (UTG): £526.00
CO: £617.55

SB posts SB £5.00, BB posts BB £10.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £15.00) Hero has K Q

Hero raises to £30.00, fold, BTN raises to £60.00, fold, fold, Hero calls £30.00

Flop: (£135.00, 2 players) 2 9 Q
Hero checks, BTN bets £94.50, Hero calls £94.50

Turn: (£324.00, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (£324.00, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BTN bets £226.80, Hero calls £226.80

Spoiler:
Hero shows K Q (Two Pair, Queens and Eights)
(Pre 74%, Flop 83%, Turn 91%)
BTN shows K J (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 26%, Flop 17%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins £773.60


Cooler

£10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: £3,362.75
UTG: £1,555.49
Hero (CO): £720.60
BTN: £500.00
SB: £668.00

SB posts SB £5.00, BB posts BB £10.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £15.00) Hero has 5 3

fold, Hero raises to £25.00, fold, fold, BB calls £15.00

Flop: (£55.00, 2 players) 5 3 9
BB checks, Hero bets £55.00, BB calls £55.00

Turn: (£165.00, 2 players) T
BB checks, Hero bets £125.00, BB raises to £730.00, Hero calls £515.60

River: (£1,446.20, 2 players) 7

Spoiler:
Hero mucks 5 3 (Two Pair, Fives and Threes)
(Pre 39%, Flop 71%, Turn 9%)
BB shows 9 T (Two Pair, Tens and Nines)
(Pre 61%, Flop 29%, Turn 91%)
BB wins £1,531.60


Showing EXTREME discipline here!
Maybe I didn't realize in-game that he limp/3b/min-5b. Even just 3b/min-5b is super strong from recs. He did it really quickly as well.
Flopping set 12% of the time, and we get 21%, sooooo...

£10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: £2,708.75
MP: £1,660.49
Hero (CO): £1,383.35
BTN: £546.25
SB: £656.75
BB: £1,115.30

SB posts SB £5.00, BB posts BB £10.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £15.00) Hero has Q Q

UTG calls £10.00, fold, Hero raises to £40.00, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to £90.00, Hero raises to £260.00, UTG raises to £450.00, Hero calls £190.00

Flop: (£915.00, 2 players) J 7 3
UTG bets £640.50, fold

UTG wins £1,551.50

Lol

£10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: £4,312.35
Hero (BTN): £500.00
SB: £608.00
BB: £225.00

SB posts SB £5.00, BB posts BB £10.00

Pre Flop: (pot: £15.00) Hero has 6 7

CO calls £10.00, Hero calls £10.00, fold, BB checks

Flop: (£35.00, 3 players) 8 7 7
BB checks, CO bets £24.50, Hero calls £24.50, fold

Turn: (£84.00, 2 players) 8
CO checks, Hero checks

River: (£84.00, 2 players) 7
CO bets £58.80, Hero raises to £460.00, CO calls £401.20

Spoiler:
CO shows 6 5 (Full House, Sevens full of Eights)
(Pre 33%, Flop 28%, Turn 2%)
Hero shows 6 7 (Four of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 67%, Flop 72%, Turn 98%)
Hero wins £1,000.00


Going a little crazy with grinding hours. Somebody get me a doctor!
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05-28-2017 , 12:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Husker
Heard Mixgrill talking about this very thing last night on Twitch.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtankz
Good to hear that you think it's a bluff catch OTR. Villain would have to rely on me xc'ing twice AQ/AK. I think people chicken out very often with thin vbets at that spot. At best I'd put him on JJ.

Yeah watched it as well. Someone asked in chat about limp strat & rake at 200z.
With 5% rake and 3€ cap (60€). At 1k = 6bb pot hits the cap. 500 = 12bb. 400 = 15, 200 = 30.
So you can see why it can be preferable at higher stakes, esp. >2k where rake cap hits with one bet.

I don't know what strategy is best. I remember from my Stars days, people started calling 3x with 96o, and that wasn't fun. Also some regs 3-bet >15%.
With new knowledge, I could go back to open raising, but I think it's more important to pick one strat and stick to it. It also takes a biiiig sample to figure out how good the strategy is.
I was one of the earliest 200 regs on Stars to use the strat, so come and limp at me bro's

I did not watch the stream, but limping strategy definitely needs to account for rake.

96o is not a defend vs. 3x assuming ~45% RFI from SB and solid play postflop. You can defend a lot more than you "should" in BB if the SB has leaks on flops/turns (i.e. c-betting freq and x/r stats way off) because although the hand is slightly -ev in theory vs. optimal opponent if people's postflop tendencies are weak then we gain EV and therefore can defend a wider range.

3b in bb vs sb of >15% should be standard. Anything less = weak reg.
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05-28-2017 , 04:24 PM
Looking forward to month graph. Do you only plan on checking results for one month at a time?

I think 100% checking back the FH w K8 ott is good, we're not getting 3 streets vs 99-QQ, and FDs are obv folding, whereas they can probe bluff river missed, or even better hit their flush and we have a chance of stacking them.

53s prob not a good open especially with these stack sizes unless they are really, really nitty.

Last hand results are mindblowing, nice!
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05-28-2017 , 04:31 PM
Don't know why you're calling K8 otb
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05-28-2017 , 04:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Don't know why you're calling K8 otb
Seems very hard to fault facing a min and with rec coming along in the sb?
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05-28-2017 , 05:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SalmoTrutta
Seems very hard to fault facing a min and with rec coming along in the sb?
We don't know the future when we made the decision to call.
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05-28-2017 , 11:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
I did not watch the stream, but limping strategy definitely needs to account for rake.

96o is not a defend vs. 3x assuming ~45% RFI from SB and solid play postflop. You can defend a lot more than you "should" in BB if the SB has leaks on flops/turns (i.e. c-betting freq and x/r stats way off) because although the hand is slightly -ev in theory vs. optimal opponent if people's postflop tendencies are weak then we gain EV and therefore can defend a wider range.

3b in bb vs sb of >15% should be standard. Anything less = weak reg.
Villain who defended 96o was a Ukrainian high stakes endboss.
I always found it difficult to play BVB 3-bet pots as SB. Felt like I was folding too much preflop to 3-bets, and if I called "too wide", I would get into trouble.

If I go back to open-raising, I would have to look at many different scenarios. SRP, 3bp, 4-betting. That's opens up a pandora's box of opportunities.
If high stakes regs are limping SB, I think it's fine at least in 400nl. At 400, we at least have 3-bet pots that hit the rake cap right away.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Don't know why you're calling K8 otb
Quote:
Originally Posted by SalmoTrutta
Seems very hard to fault facing a min and with rec coming along in the sb?
Opener was the whale.
I'd peel very wide vs min-raise, especially when deep. I want to play as many pots vs recs as possible, especially at highest stakes.
This guys stats were: 60% VPIP, 23% PFR, 12% 3-bet. CB flop 44%, FTCB 34%, turn FTCB 9%. The latter is why I decided to bet K8s twice.
If I can rep at least a FD there, I will go for it.
I was also playing very active vs him, not like I just only bet and call the nuts.

Vs regs K8s would have to be marginal / read-dependent.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PandaLife
Looking forward to month graph. Do you only plan on checking results for one month at a time?

I think 100% checking back the FH w K8 ott is good, we're not getting 3 streets vs 99-QQ, and FDs are obv folding, whereas they can probe bluff river missed, or even better hit their flush and we have a chance of stacking them.

53s prob not a good open especially with these stack sizes unless they are really, really nitty.

Last hand results are mindblowing, nice!
All pots were vs the rec. I'd go more in-depth, or say "vs reg" otherwise. This rec doesn't fold FD OTT
Again, 53s, there was the whale in the blinds.

wrt. results. I found this whole thing so stressful that I think checking once a month is good. If I played less stressful games, I would check more frequently.
I also hate the idea of knowing that you're say. 2k € up. Just losing a few all-ins could bring you back to breakeven. Or 2x bad sessions = down for the month. I just hate the idea of the latter. Then you get into the mindset where you have to grind back, but the key thing is that you shouldn't change one bit what you are doing strategically, regardless of monthly results.

It's hard to rationalize this stuff. I think when we start measuring results in 1k euro units, (1k 2k 5k etc.), that's too much for the human mind.

Whatever helps you to keep a rational and sane mindset is good for you.
If I didn't check once a month, I'd check results only at the end of the day.

Might sound fishy, but at these games where you go up and down a few 1k's, just having blind faith in things turning around is good. Even if it feels like an eternity.
Variance is really big, regs make less mistakes, and you get exploited more. A lot of fish also call tighter = more variance.

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Wanted to write something yesterday regarding "grinding" vs "keeping score".
Keeping score is basically minimizing losses and "maximizing" profits. You want to quit when you've made 5k. You drop down when you are down 3k. "Winning 1.5k today is enough for me".

Grinding mindset on the other half, is the only way to maximize profits. It means to put in more hours, more volume, and that way if you earn >0€/h, each hour maximizes your potential monthly earnings.
The key part, is to drop the emotional attachment, from say "I want to be up 5k € this month" "I made 10k €, I'm done", "I won enough for the day".
The other side where this comes to play, is shotting at higher stakes. If there's a very good table, you should always go for it, but it can really screw up your monthly results.

So yeah, it's a choice between do you wanna stick to just what you have earned, or do you wanna go to even bigger potential profits?

GL at the tables!
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05-29-2017 , 12:54 PM
Todays grind.
Happy to say that I finally ran average. Good session, followed by bad session & decent session etc.
Still running a lot below EV. I ran experiments with couple of spewy bluffs. Both worked out, but had they not worked, they would have been sooooo spewy.
I think it's important to distinguish between experiments and mistakes. Mistake is knowingly doing something bad. Experiment has the element of "not-knowing".
I'm very happy with my play today, even though I played such big volume, hands looks mostly fine / standard. To keep things interesting, even adding some crazy stuff here and there, and experimenting some bluffs vs fish. So no hudbotting.


Dissatisfied with this hand. Villain is a new player. I later checked and only found him playing one table.
Absolute donkey line. I was ready to see some blocker bluffs vs reg. Not so sure about "random stuff" vs recs.
But well, being the station that I am at 100nl, couldn't fold.

1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58.77 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 23.81, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 21)
SB: 103.13 BB (VPIP: 31.41, PFR: 23.04, 3Bet Preflop: 9.72, Hands: 195)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 26)
UTG: 149.36 BB (VPIP: 29.23, PFR: 21.54, 3Bet Preflop: 13.21, Hands: 138)
Hero (CO): 120.43 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) A 8 K
BB checks, Hero bets 4.55 BB, BB calls 4.55 BB

Turn: (15.6 BB, 2 players) T
BB bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

River: (43.6 BB, 2 players) 6
BB bets 78.45 BB, Hero calls 78.45 BB

Spoiler:
Hero mucks K A (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 66%, Flop 84%, Turn 9%)
BB shows Q J (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 34%, Flop 16%, Turn 91%)
BB wins 196.5 BB


Some ridiculous coolers as well. Helps your mindset to know that you won 4k few days ago

Tomorrow = More, more, more!
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05-30-2017 , 01:23 PM
Couldn't resist but to check todays graph. Played only 4 hours.
Had some bad stomach pain, and grinding didn't feel great.
Ran into weird spots again, where I didn't know the solution or the optimal play. Tried some new stuff out.
Was pleased to have my bluff catches work, so I don't feel biased when I lose with river calls.
Bluff catched river at 1k 50bb, which failed, but it was very good spot and no regret at all. The opposite! Was positively surprised when reviewing the hand.

I've been experimenting different sizings, so I don't feel biased towards one sizing, like "people always do X vs Y sizing"

Crushed gym as well. Started doing bench press with 17.5kg dumbbells. Tried the 20kg dumbbells, which felt too heavy atm.
+1-2kg with shoulder exercises as well!

Really feel like wrapping up the month already. If games are not good tomorrow, I'll just do gym + cook food etc.

Tunesaver. One hell of a song!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05-30-2017 , 04:55 PM
How hard was it to get to the skill level you now have, and whats the most important thing you did to get there? (serious). Keep crushing btw
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05-31-2017 , 12:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Federer20
How hard was it to get to the skill level you now have, and whats the most important thing you did to get there? (serious). Keep crushing btw
It took me ages to get there!
Trial and error.
I tried different coaches with different approaches to the game. Then figuring out yourself what is best your games.
Very few regs would have all stats optimal. But right now when I look at my stats, I really like what I see. Only one stat I don't like and I'm working hard on it.
So maybe 1½ years ago I was 75% good, as time moves on you start to get closer to 100%. But like some math functions, no one quite gets to the 100%, only closer and closer to it.

That's a pretty blunt answer, but when I think about all the hours I have spent on reviewing hands & equilab, then Flopzilla work, watching coaching videos from MULTIPLE sites, it's been a lot of work.
End result should be an exploitative strategy with little bit of everything. I don't think just staring at PIO is the way to go

Most important thing was to get a good coach, who explained poker fundamentals very well.
That pretty much solely helped me to perform well on Stars 200nl games 1½ years ago.

I initially read your question wrong, and thought you asked "What was the hardest thing you learned?"
Objectivity was the first thing that came to my mind.
Objectivity wrt. strategic spots. Learning to trust my own beliefs, not to blindly trust what others say, but to also not get stuck in my own way of thinking. It's a mixture of all.
I'm now working at objectivity towards results and variance.Trying to understand and see the big picture better, and not get upset when running bad. It can be tough at mid stakes, like I wrote earlier.

This objectivity to results, and how well you run, and not worry about money, is only something I learned recently. I'm pretty much trying to dis-attach myself from money when playing (and be a big whale ofc ). I'm just having a lot of monetary confidence at all levels except maybe 600-1k. If big hero call goes wrong, fine, as long as the spot was good. I used to stress a lot with trying to play too optimal and make no "mistakes".

GL to you as well!
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05-31-2017 , 01:54 PM
Results May 2017:

Winnings: ~5k € (Tracked + MPN)
EV winnings: ~7.5-7.6k € (at least, don't know MPN EV, only winnings)
I know I'm a lot below EV on MPN as well. I remember losing QQ < A9o pre for nearly 700€ pot. That would show in tracker as -700€, but if I calculate it correctly, EV is +280€. So that's 1k difference. I also lost pot where fish jams turn with set for 3x pot, I call with flush and lose to rivered FH. Stuff like that.
So who knows, maybe I had close to 10k EV month
It's cool to not know tbh, unless you are very uncomfortable about your skill level, like 1bb/100 winner.
My graphs have some RB as well that's not included.


This is why you NEVER EVER EVER check results!!!!!!

Losing some bropoints here
Spoiler:

600+1k where my winnings mainly came from

Lower stakes than that

And MPN +1.9k €
93 hours, averaging 470 hands/hr.

That's a relief to have a very good month!
I finally get to geek around with stats as well, and see what worked and what didn't.

Very ambitious to grind a lot in June. I might take some time off to enjoy summer. Not with this weather though! Literally ROFL'ed when I saw the weather forecast yesterday.

No goals, but to grind like beast!
GL all!
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06-01-2017 , 03:15 PM
Pleased to say that June started with a big upswing!
Even ran above EV this session.
Had all the cooler spots on my side. Those spots were not happening (enough) at May. A lot of them were vs regs.
Maybe I took couple of too ambitious lines, but I like that way of thinking, instead of living in "left-brain prison", where everything has to make absolute sense and there's no creativity.

Physically I haven't felt so great last few days. I'd like to grind as much as possible, but it's hard when you are timing out on the tables. I have no idea why I don't feel great. I think it's best to just wait for this feeling to go away.
Maybe it's the bad weather here that gets my mood down or something.
By quick googling, it seems to be a real issue: https://www.quora.com/Whenever-it-ra...-of-breath-Why
Shortness of breath and not being able to play 3h/HU make sense


I also got myself a free goodie bag from Urtekram by sending a reclamation letter. Had some issues with eating almonds. There's sweet almonds and then there's bitter almonds. Sometimes bitter almonds end mixing up with the sweet almonds. Bitter almonds contain poison called hydrogen cyanide.
I crunched one of those bitter almonds at 5am Saturday morning and the cyanide really freaked me out. Nothing happened though
Not a fun feeling to taste poison in your mouth, but it's a very small dose though.
Prob ~70€ worth of stuff here! Dried mangos and figs, almonds and nuts. Always worth to try


Tomorrow the grind continues...

Last edited by Fishtankz; 06-01-2017 at 03:28 PM.
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06-02-2017 , 05:57 PM
Decent grind. After having a good month, and finally hitting some coolers on my side, I'm now more confident at my skill level.
I'm more confident that I don't have to review all my hands, and I trust that I played most hands in a standard way. It's always okay to bluff an easy spot, call a bluff catching spot and fold a spot where villain seems value heavy. It's not okay to bluff a hard spot without a plan, or to bluff catch very wide impulsively.
In terms of reviewing hands, I would try to put up an expectation. 10/10 would be to play in a zone, read hands well and try something new.
7/10 would be B-game'ish, focus issues and doing few bad plays. <5/10 C-game.
I'd rate todays play around 8/10. I was little rusty on some spots, but reviewing helped on that. Kinda made few calls for information in spots where I could have folded as well. Those were river raise spots

Kinda pissed off right now because of these euro site clients. Client crashed, and I lose an opportunity to stack a big whale. Also I lost a hand history text for hand where I gii nut straight for 565€ profit with 95% equity :-/
So that hand won't be tracked in results, but cashed the profits. Easiest hand ever and 5650000bb/100 It was vs reg as well. How often do you gii 95% equity vs reg, without flopping a set on mega drawy board?
I think that's a good reminder not to be too obsessed with results and reviewing. At the end of the day, the most important thing is to have a high balance and being able to cash out those profits!
A lot of bluffs failed today esp. at 400. Losing stacks won't hurt much, since what I showed up with will (should) improve my bottom line in the future. I'm also always happy to step up my bluffing game to a new level.

The lost opportunity due to client crashing
obv gii vs 100% VPIP guy.

4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 123.94 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
Hero (CO): 112.13 BB
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.44, PFR: 20.71, 3Bet Preflop: 9.70, Hands: 514)
SB: 100.19 BB (VPIP: 29.49, PFR: 23.16, 3Bet Preflop: 10.93, Hands: 4,095)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.42, PFR: 21.82, 3Bet Preflop: 8.88, Hands: 4,087)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

UTG raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) Q T K
UTG checks, Hero bets 11 BB, UTG raises to 115.94 BB, fold

Spoiler:
UTG wins 143.44 BB


GL all!

Last edited by Fishtankz; 06-02-2017 at 06:07 PM.
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06-03-2017 , 11:41 AM
What would you guys have done?
I posted double penalty blinds. I don't know villain well, he plays >400nl
BTN is new fish, so trappy trappy.

4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 37.2 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 42.85 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.80, PFR: 15.45, 3Bet Preflop: 7.07, Hands: 253)
Hero (CO): 139.78 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, Hero posts penalty blind 1.5 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3 BB) Hero has A A

Hero checks, fold, fold, BB checks

Flop: (3 BB, 2 players) 5 5 7
BB bets 1.5 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Turn: (6 BB, 2 players) 7
BB bets 3.96 BB, Hero calls 3.96 BB

River: (13.92 BB, 2 players) 7
BB bets 93.54 BB, fold

Spoiler:
BB wins 106.77 BB
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06-03-2017 , 12:06 PM
Fold. You have a much higher than normal % of 7x after this pre + flop + turn action than after a PFR so he should prob slow down with pushing you off the chops.
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06-03-2017 , 12:36 PM
I'm all for trapping and stuff, but limping in aces cus of a 37bb fish doesn't make much sense, if I understood your comment correctly? As for river, it's a pretty clear fold.
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06-03-2017 , 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SalmoTrutta
Fold. You have a much higher than normal % of 7x after this pre + flop + turn action than after a PFR so he should prob slow down with pushing you off the chops.
Yeah I thought as well that it's not a smart idea to start bluffing into UNCAPPED 7x range. We're talking 72o+. Even 72o is 3 combos.
I don't know why he would jam with nuts though, I think you just have to expect a fold almost every time. Unless he is looking for a quads > quads type spot.
But yeah, villain takes so huuuge risk that we can exploitatively call with just 7x I think.
Is this an "eye candy hand" spot in NLHE?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PandaLife
I'm all for trapping and stuff, but limping in aces cus of a 37bb fish doesn't make much sense, if I understood your comment correctly? As for river, it's a pretty clear fold.
I'm more focused on trapping the regs. That extra "uncontested" 1.5bb does make the difference.
It would also give the fish the incentive to limp even wider.
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06-03-2017 , 04:04 PM
Yo Fish, loved following along your journey.

Happy to see where you've ended up. Kudos

No plans on going for a trip to Asia or Malta or whatever? cause youre still in Finland right?

My best move ever was to spend a year in Asia. Being stationary whilest playing poker feels so wrong, you know?

Each to his own thou just saying it was amazing, in all aspects.
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06-03-2017 , 09:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeeTeeOhh
Yo Fish, loved following along your journey.

Happy to see where you've ended up. Kudos

No plans on going for a trip to Asia or Malta or whatever? cause youre still in Finland right?

My best move ever was to spend a year in Asia. Being stationary whilest playing poker feels so wrong, you know?

Each to his own thou just saying it was amazing, in all aspects.
Hey.
I only started thinking about traveling this year.
There are few places where I'd like to visit.
In Malta and SE Asia I'd like to experience the very warm climate. Then I'd like to visit some cool places on earth, like Mayan pyramids and national monuments.
It's cool to have all the options open as a poker pro

wrt. being stationary. I like my command center setup. I can grind as many tables as I like for as long as I please.
Playing lot of tables has always been my thing, and for that I need a 2560x1440 monitor.
I get higher hourly than grinding same tables on a laptop.

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Played a marathon today.
Biiig big rollercoaster day. Tried some new bluffs, but regs ended up having the nuts.
Started steaming at one point and thought that I played badly, but based on reviewing hands, I played really well on that session.
I just had the worst seat vs aggro fish'es with low FTCB %. I also ran bad at HU which can be annoying. Played vs one floater guy who ended having 0/7 FTCB during the hands we played
Ninja clicked myself a seat at 1k, and ran well at that table. So not complaining about results. Was a cooler heavy day though, but I had coolers on my side too!
Whatever I chose to do, there was always a core logic behind it, which is something I like a lot!


Few hands

h1: Having a hud helps, donk bet 100%
thx.

2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 116.3 BB
BB: 95.97 BB
UTG: 158.35 BB
MP: 131.56 BB
CO: 75.64 BB
Hero (BTN): 106.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3.5 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB

Flop: (13 BB, 3 players) K 9 J
SB bets 27 BB, fold, Hero calls 27 BB

Turn: (67 BB, 2 players) 3
SB bets 85.3 BB, Hero calls 75.8 BB

River: (218.6 BB, 2 players) 6

Spoiler:
Hero shows K Q (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 65%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
SB shows 7 4 (High Card, King)
(Pre 35%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
SB wins 9.5 BB
Hero wins 216.6 BB


h2: Spewy rec hits lucky river!
preflop is random stuff

4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 50 BB
SB: 31.01 BB
BB: 57 BB
Hero (UTG): 94.98 BB
MP: 54.7 BB
CO: 64.13 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 8

Hero calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 4 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Flop: (8.5 BB, 2 players) 3 6 J
BB bets 6.38 BB, Hero calls 6.38 BB

Turn: (21.25 BB, 2 players) Q
BB bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

River: (33.25 BB, 2 players) 8
BB bets 40.63 BB, Hero calls 40.63 BB

Spoiler:
Hero mucks 6 8 (Two Pair, Eights and Sixes)
(Pre 32%, Flop 74%, Turn 70%)
BB shows 9 T (Straight, Queen High)
(Pre 68%, Flop 26%, Turn 30%)
BB wins 113.5 BB


h3: fish who looked solid
should have donked river small just to confuse him. Him having T2o would have been perfect tho

4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 247.6 BB
SB: 111.5 BB
Hero (BB): 116 BB
UTG: 119.3 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 8

fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4.5 BB, 2 players) 9 3 K
Hero checks, BTN bets 3.5 BB, Hero calls 3.5 BB

Turn: (11.5 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BTN bets 26 BB, Hero calls 26 BB

River: (63.5 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BTN checks

Spoiler:
BTN shows 9 2 (Flush, King High)
(Pre 35%, Flop 58%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows A 8 (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 65%, Flop 42%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 62.5 BB


h4: Still waiting for random spazz!!
but yeah this is a new spot to me, bluff catching 6x here as weakest part of my range, which may be debatable what is best bluff catcher.

2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 106.22 BB
CO: 156.08 BB
BTN: 125.86 BB
SB: 72.32 BB
Hero (BB): 211.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 6

fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, BTN calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) T 9 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 8.2 BB, Hero calls 8.2 BB

Turn: (36.9 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BTN bets 28 BB, Hero calls 28 BB

River: (92.9 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BTN bets 79.66 BB, Hero calls 79.66 BB

Spoiler:
BTN shows Q J (Straight, Queen High)
(Pre 62%, Flop 49%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks 7 6 (Straight, Ten High)
(Pre 38%, Flop 51%, Turn 0%)
BTN wins 250.21 BB


h5: always worth trying the river shove vs rec, and definitely a good idea to limp pre.

2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 135.47 BB
Hero (SB): 103.63 BB
BB: 148.07 BB
CO: 106.03 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 T

fold, fold, Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (2 BB, 2 players) K 6 T
Hero bets 1 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Turn: (4 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 2 BB, BB raises to 5 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

River: (14 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BB bets 14 BB, Hero raises to 96.63 BB, BB calls 82.63 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows 6 T (Full House, Sixes full of Tens)
(Pre 27%, Flop 84%, Turn 90%)
BB shows 6 Q (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 73%, Flop 16%, Turn 10%)
Hero wins 205.25 BB


h6: The lazy sizing vs fish

4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 101.47 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 25 BB, BB calls 16 BB

Flop: (50 BB, 2 players) 9 8 Q
BB checks, Hero bets 75 BB, BB calls 75 BB

Turn: (200 BB, 2 players) 5

River: (200 BB, 2 players) K

Spoiler:
Hero mucks K K (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 68%, Flop 48%, Turn 68%)
BB shows A Q (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 52%, Turn 32%)
BB wins 199.75 BB


Month is off to a very good and productive start. Let's keep it up!
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06-03-2017 , 11:37 PM
Ok cool

Fwiw, i brought my 27inch 2500x1400 to Thailand, not a problem at all just some plaster and clothes wrapped around it.

Going down later this year again, might try bringing 2 screens. As i also play alot of tables.
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06-04-2017 , 07:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeeTeeOhh
Ok cool

Fwiw, i brought my 27inch 2500x1400 to Thailand, not a problem at all just some plaster and clothes wrapped around it.

Going down later this year again, might try bringing 2 screens. As i also play alot of tables.
Ok sounds good!
But yeah, if you go on a short holiday, you really don't wanna grind that much
Traveling the world kind of thing is a bit different. Atm I just like to keep the money machine going.

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Started steaming a little bit from this hand, I'm not immune to that feeling. Vs 2 recs w/ decent enough stats

2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 101 BB (VPIP: 28.73, PFR: 20.59, 3Bet Preflop: 10.23, Hands: 456)
SB: 220.68 BB (VPIP: 20.43, PFR: 9.68, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 96)
BB: 83.5 BB (VPIP: 42.57, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 15.00, Hands: 103)
Hero (UTG): 203.8 BB
CO: 85.25 BB (VPIP: 33.54, PFR: 20.12, 3Bet Preflop: 3.64, Hands: 172)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 2

Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 7 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, CO calls 4 BB

Flop: (21.5 BB, 3 players) 4 2 J
BB bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB, CO calls 13 BB

Turn: (60.5 BB, 3 players) Q
BB bets 63.5 BB, Hero raises to 126.99 BB, CO calls 65.25 BB

River: (254.5 BB, 3 players) 5

Spoiler:
Hero shows 2 2 (Three of a Kind, Twos)

Main Pot [250.99 BB]: (Pre 18%, Flop 83%, Turn 2%)
Side Pot#1 [3.51 BB]: (Pre 20%, Flop 87%, Turn 2%)

CO shows Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)

Main Pot [250.99 BB]: (Pre 55%, Flop 13%, Turn 98%)
Side Pot#1 [3.51 BB]: (Pre 80%, Flop 13%, Turn 98%)

BB shows J A (One Pair, Jacks)

Main Pot [250.99 BB]: (Pre 27%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)

Hero wins 61.74 BB
CO wins 252.5 BB


I would have been super tilted had this failed as well. Instead, villain started steaming and going all-in That's poker folks!

2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 27.5 BB (VPIP: 75.86, PFR: 29.31, 3Bet Preflop: 20.59, Hands: 62)
Hero (BB): 165.8 BB
BTN: 99.25 BB (VPIP: 41.54, PFR: 19.78, 3Bet Preflop: 2.49, Hands: 658)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 9

fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 2 players) J 9 8
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (8 BB, 2 players) Q
SB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, SB calls 4 BB

River: (16 BB, 2 players) K
SB bets 11.2 BB, Hero calls 11.2 BB

Spoiler:
Spoiler:
SB shows 5 A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 60%, Flop 45%, Turn 22%)
Hero shows Q 9 (Two Pair, Queens and Nines)
(Pre 40%, Flop 55%, Turn 78%)
Hero wins 36.48 BB


It's not a marathon unless you grind both days, so gogo Sunday grind!
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