Well done, gg! 98dd pre action is something else

that 98dd hand made me sub, gg

moaaaar

Congrats mate!! Inspiring stuff going on right here

You can practically here the blinds screaming "stop it and let us see a flop so can fold this ****" lol

Haha, the preflop strategies they don't teach you at rio!!


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Can't resist.. made a new mini challenge for fun mainly

GLGL! Update pls cya in Kings soon!

Any update man?

Such an inspirational thread always keep on looking back at it

I guess I can update this. So... since last post, which was apparantly halfway December last year, I went on a live trip to Rozvadov in January, graduated uni end of January and went to Vegas/LA for about 7 weeks in February/March. Went home for a week, played online, and have moved to London since the 1st of April.

Things have been going alright

Live brag, 2017 so far, mainly 5/10 and some 2/5 & 10/20:


Online brag, last 100k hands of 100z:


The heater is real... Can't seem to win at 200z though, but I bought piosolver, running my first sim ever as I'm typing and live with poker players now so I'm sure I'll be crushing it soon!!


2 biggest hands of today... Live 5/10, first hand 10min into the session

Utg limps, btn makes it 50, I have AA in sb and make it 210, btn calls.
T65hh
He calls 290
3o
He calls 775
Ko
He calls 1700 ai and mucks.

Second hand... We're over 5k deep.
Mp limps, co makes it 50 (same guy), I'm btn KK make it 175, he makes it 525 and I flat.
Q65r
I call 350
5
He xc 475
3
He xc 1275 and mucks.

FKN NICE !!! So happy for your success

Dude london is the best city i've ever visited the poker action isn't that great actually IMO but everything is so clean and the atmosphere is great way better then the dump NYC is lol.

I remember i was wearing shorts in like march or something and tried walking into the Vic casino they said i wasn't allowed in because of my shorts lul.

That live heater is so insane. The 5/10 isn't 1k cap is it?

go on dutchy!

Lol, yeah different dresscodes in casinos around the world eh. In Germany there's some casinos where you need to wear a blazer or you won't get in

About half of the profit comes from 5/10 capped at 1500, rest is spread over 2/5 & 10/20!



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May start updating regularly again but probably won't.... we'll see

Hey Kron, just had a quick question in regards to the preflop sizing w/AA hand and 4xing it in general preflop?

Villain raises to 50 and you make it 4x from sb?
I've noticed a lot of people 4xing from the blinds or just in general preflop when 3!ing online, i normally would just raise to 150 or 3x w/my entire range here what's the reason for the 4x sizings pre?

I've mainly seen this 4x sizing 3! from the blinds/in general online, was wondering the logic, reasoning, or strat behind it?
I'm guessing we split sizings here as well like have 3x with some med-strongish hands and 4x with the very top of our range and then stuff like 86s or something (or nah i'm totally wrong)?

I'm afraid that... you're totally wrong basically size up when fish is in the hand in general, as we want to make more money. The AA i don't remember if vilain was fish or not but oop I like to make it bigger per default as deeper the stacks are, to give villain a worse price.

lifetime 100z, only took half a million hands BUT officially now took money out of the pool!

Congrats

wow thats a sick graph dude - -100bi gross
well done on grinding back

you should type iddqd idkfa a little earlier next time

sick graph. respect

Good hustle

<3

jesus

Ty!
Hmm.... confused... explain!

Ty!
Ty!

christ

Sick results ITT.

What advice would you give a 5nl player who wants to make it up to 200/500z some day? What's the fastest way to do it?

I've actually thought more than once about the situation where one is about 18-20 years old and has no money, but wants to start in poker and the following is what I came up with. Let's face it, 5nl is essentially starting in poker. What I think the best path would be if you are serious about poker, is to combine live poker, online poker and an hourly-paid job such as working in a supermarket / cleaning etc. I would get my real life job for a start to make money and deposit some amount online, let's say $200. I would, with the experience I have about the poker world now (which I did not have when I started), use online purely for getting better and live as means to make money.

The most optimal path in my opinion is to start at microstakes online (start at 2nlz), and move up once you know you beat it. Don't stick to 2nl when you easily beat it, even when you haven't won money there. It's okay to move up if you are down 50bi's at one point, but won 30bi's back. It's okay to move up in my opinion, despite still being a lifetime loser. There's no need to waste time at lower stakes than you can beat, just for the sake of 'proving' you can beat it. Then, once you reach 10nlz / 25nlz, you start playing live 1/2. Anyone that beats 10nlz online, I'm convinced will win at essentially any 1/2 live lineup.

Once you start playing 1/2 live and have a comfortable roll from both 1/2 and the real life job, you quit the real life job. I'd consider comfortable roll as something in the region of 5-8k, assuming the player 100% crushes 1/2. You want to quit the job, as 1/2 live will earn way more than the real life job and money at this point can be used to improve one's game effectively by getting coaching. From this point onwards you just keep playing live to build the roll and spend parts of it on online poker and coaching, and at about 20k you take shots at 2/5 live whilst still playing online to get better, and move up to 5/10 and above depending on how good the game is / your confidence etc. Once you're at this point, there isn't really any pressure anymore as you should be overrolled for 2/5 live, and that game will make more money than essentially any real life job could that is in reach for most people.

I think, to my knowledge, this is the fastest way of moving up in poker. Now, once you reach 10/20 live, you will struggle to always find a good 10/20 game and this is where online comes into play again. This is basically the point where you decide to either keep playing the higher stakes live, as the games above 10/20 won't run without a spot and therefore a fair few players that are happy playing 50/100, will be in the 10/20 games a fair bit. Therefore, if you beat 10/20, you should theoretically beat 50/100. However, these games don't run very often whereas 5/10 online will run and the best 5/10 online players will earn more than 10/20 live players. So, now that you've reached the point in your poker career in which you play 10/20 live, you also reached the point where your networth is going to be around 6 figures. If you want to keep making your hourly higher and are prepared to work hard for it I'd suggest at this point to study a lot and start playing the 5/10+ online games. This is where it gets really tough though and for some of us I'd imagine impossible.

With regards to the real-life job part that I suggested, I really believe that if 2 players that are broke and playing micros, both want to play poker as a job and one gets a real life job to support the first few months and the other does not, then the one that has the real life job will make it to the higher stakes quicker. Having 5k compared to 0 is just so important and having like 5k combined with beating 1/2 live is so profitable, however for most 18-20 year olds out of reach and I think this is a big part of the reason why they don't end up playing poker as a job.

With regards to your specific question, I realize my reply here doesn't exactly answer it and I just wrote a story on how to most efficiently, in my opinion, 'make it' in poker. I guess what that means and, if anything, what you can take from my reply, is that you should probably not necessarily focus on beating 200z/500z online, but rather on making most money in poker, as beating especially 500z is really damn tough and will take a very long time and for most of us, not be near as profitable as live poker. You should take into account that for a very big part of the journey of playing purely online, you won't make ANY money. the first 5 stake jumps that you make, will likely take 100s of thousands of hands and you will make no money at all. This is why I suggest adding live poker.

For me personally, I did take the path which I believe is suboptimal and just played lots online and multitabled. The following graph is my lifetime results at 2nl, 5nl and 10nl.



This is essentially the first 300k hands of online cash I played. That means altogether probably 600 hours of playing and after rakeback I made $900. Keep in mind that most of this money was spend on playing 25nl, and you realize that a very long period of starting in poker will result in zero profit, hence I believe adding the lowest stakes live is the quickest path to moving up in stakes even if you plan on playing online in the long run. A big part of this is also that if you don't play live, you won't see results and won't make money and likely give up before actually haven given it a real chance, due to pressure from parents / environment / money issues etc.

I hope this helped... I know I wrote a wall of text but it is what I think is the best thing to do. Let me know if there's anything else I can give my opinion on... I'm happy to write!

Hi Kronincken,
I am from Germany. I would also like to play poker in a casino. I played often online, when the boom of poker began ~ 2007. We were playing with friends NL 10 or some SNGs. I was two times in a casino, but never had the bankroll for that.

There are not many casinos in Germany, which offer nl200. The lowest limit is often NL400. In my city exist also a private group with nl100 sometimes nl50.

I want to save some money. Do you know a casino for me and what bankroll do I need?

I try to learn a lot for NL50 and NL100. Saw many videos of Bodo, who is a pro and have a lot experience. I think he has the right game. I am not sure if it is not a waste of time? When I was playing poker on higher limits, I was bumhunting or looked for easy tables. I have read the book of Janda (Application of NL) a lil bit and like the website of Blackrain79.....

Wish u a good week
Woddy

Yeah, the obv solution is find lowstake homegames! Make sure you don't play in ridiculously high raked games and you'll be good to go. With regards to watching pro vids, that's definitely helpful, try to understand what they do and why and then implement it in your own game. Bumhunting on higher limits is standard live as 2/5+ usually won't run without a spot, however I'm assuming you mean you're bumhunting online on like 50nl which is a bit of a waste of time. I'd spend that time on playing lower and improving as there isn't a lot of money to be made on 50nl or w/e the stake is that you bumhunt at. I'd focus the time and effort on improving your own game rather than finding opponents that are bad when you're still learning.