Yes, I used 2 years ago pokertableratings.com to look for good tables and it worked pretty well. Even on NL100 - I found some tables, where there was a player who wasted the money and called a bet with A high.

Zoom Poker is full of solid players. Strong preflop fight ala 3-Bet and 4-Bet, Steals and Re-Steals in Lateposition and a good handrage reading.

I am a lazy human,....
What do you think, what winrate is really possible? I think about to get a coaching by a player, who has a good winrate and samplesize, but I am not sure.

I saw a calculation, that it is better to play Zoom-Poker without a winrate or a small winrate than to bumhunting with a winrate of 8bb/100 on regular tables.


8 tables Zoom => ~ 33$/h (35% rakeback)
with 2bb/100 + rake => ~ 60$/h

with 8bb/100 and 4 regular Tables => ~30 $/h

I am not sure if this calculation is right. But if I could have such a great $/h and might to do it - I would do some work for it.

What do you think?

Hm I try to be honest with you. It Looks like you are more of a complete beginner the way you write and ask.

That´s absolutely fine, but to get a hourly like this it´s not enough to do some work. I would recommend to play/study/read/review etc. at least 8-12h a day for 6-12 month or even longer to get a little bit close to $30/h.

Without a good coach it takes you hundred of thousand of hands due Trial and error to identify leaks and work on your game by your own.

And even if you do all that work, you can go on crazy downswings or break even phases, where you think all you learned is wrong and doesn´t work any longer.

Poker is though and only the people who commit the most of their time to it will succeed.

It´s not like a hobby or a normal job. Poker should be your life to reach a decent level.

Lol, 100% not beginner. I played more hand online than u.... and also with success. SNGs, Cash Game etc.

And I know what it is when you play 24/7, but without breaks u get sick and ill!

Chill man, just wanted to help and not judge. You don´t have to get offensive. And I don´t think you played more hands than me lifetime anyways.

Impressive rostucko, GL mate !

+1



In!
Gl and see you at the tables.

lol that graph of 100z lifetime is siiicckkkk.

Must feel great huh?

GL!

In general I would focus on improving your own game as opposed to finding tables with weak players 'even at 100nl'. As you say it like that, 100nl is the highest stake you'd take a shot if the table is good. I wouldn't do this if I were you; I'd just play at a stake where you get to be better than the regs and stay there and move up once you beat it. Then you get to open sit the 100nl lobby rather than bumhunt it!

With regards to what winrate is possible- 5bb/100 should probably the highest you're gonna get as you should move up if you have this. Again, I wouldn't be concerned about winrates and $/h etc, I'd be more concerned with moving up as fast as you can and $ will come. With regards to your calculations in your previous post, for a start don't 8 table zoom (unless you're gazzyb!!). Also, the $ amounts you post I can't do anything with as depends on stake etc. you can expect to on average play 700 hands/h 4 tabling. The rest of the variables (stake, bb/100, rakeback) are player dependent so I'm sure you can figure it out.

Thanks! glgl
can confirm

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In an attempt to fix my sleeping schedule I woke up at midnight and played online for a solid 18h with some breaks... combi of 100z and 200z.



Live hands... This one was probably about a week ago, my biggest lost hand here & lifetime so far.

10/25, mp opens 75, mp2 flats, I'm co and make it ~350 with KJhh. Mp folds, mp2 calls.
J73r
He xr my 375 to 1100, I flat.
Tc
He jams ~6k, I call and lose vs AA.
Heard mixed opinions about that 1

Another fun game, we started as a 2/5 and the fish is in for ~5k, bullets between 500-1k each. Somewhere early in the session I get it in pre with AQ vs his 75s for ~500each, flop 346, turn Q (at this point I show my Q cause don't wanna slowroll the fish), river T. He sits there stonefaced so I show my A, ready to start stacking chips. Then he slowly turns over 75 for a flopped straight... the slowroll is real! Literally 10 min later we have a hand where it goes limp limp, he makes it 50 in co, I have AQo in sb make it 200, he flats. AK2r I check, he jams ~450, I call. turn brick river Q, he shows A8, I complain act annoyed etc and eventually show my Q... then eventually show my A and the payback is done. Fun fact he slowrolled my friend later again. After all this we somehow became talking & friendly.

Anyway, the guy runs up his 500 to 5k+ so the game is 5/10 now. We've played for over 15 hours and are 4 handed. He limps co, I'm bb A8s make it 50. He thinks about calling or folding, has his cards in one hand, chips in the other so I'm cheering him on on what to do. (in both French and English as he spoke French, lol). Eventually he calls.
A87r
He calls 50
To
He calls 100
Ao
I bet 600, he snapraises to 1700, I jam ~3.7k and he snapcalls with 69o and I win.

This is one of my fav hands here so far due to it taking so long and we were talking every street & I genuinely think talking may have made the spot more +ev.

A bluff from the 10/25, the hand is standard but the stakes relatively higher than what I usually play so it's still a rememberable hand to me.
Blinds 10/25/50, btn opens 175, I 3b sb KQhh to 700, straddle cold 4bets to 1275, I flat.
JT3dds
xx
6s
I check, he bets 900, I jam ~5.5k and get a fold. #sweat

Big 2/5 hand...
2/5, mp opens, mp2 flats, co fish 3bets to 65, I coldcall btn with 55 and opener calls.
T33hh
xx, I bet ~110, both call.
2h
xxx
5o
opener bets ~350 into ~500
co folds, I raise to 1785 and get a tankcall and win.

Another big 2/5 hand... Session started at midnight and I was supposed to go out the next day, however the fish didn't wanna leave so the session ran till 4pm next day. Following hand should explain all why I didn't wanna leave
I open 22 utg to 20, btn calls, bb makes it 60, we both call.
852cc he cbets 175, I raise to 450, he snapjams 3.5k, I call and hold vs AA.

London's been fun...

Hey kronicken.
Can you tell us peasants what it's like to make a boat or better every time you hold 2 cards of the same value in your hand?
Thx

How do you find games with these sorts of overplays. Insane.

Just stumbled on this thread. Love the results and the general content/advice. Happy to see you succed, we played quite a few hands together i think Maybe we even played at Kings together!

Subbed and gl!

In glgl

Man I swear, at least half the hands I play I have to deal with just a set or a flush... and sometimes the flush isn't even A high.



PM me who you are!

Ty!

Live update!

There's been some fun games around London and the stakes getting higher and higher... Resulting in me yesterday playing 3 out of my 5 biggest pots lifetime. All of the following HHs ran with the same fun player.

~5 days ago I woke up around 11am and got a msg from my roommate that there was a fun 5/10 game running. I rushed there and they were playing 4 handed, I joined and played a fair few fun hands with the fun player, culminating in the following hand:

5/10, we're 7 handed at this point. UTG+1 raises 30, I'm hj flat KK, fun player makes it 130 on btn, utg+1 flats, I backraise 475. Btn calls, utg+1 folds.
AJ3ddh
He calls 500
Th
I xc 1300
4o
I xc overbet of 7035 allin and win. This is my new biggest pot lifetime.

Game dies and we set off to play more over the next few days.

The next day the game is 10/25 and near the end of the night it is 3 handed with said fun player and one reg. Most interesting hand below...

I open 56dd btn, bb reg flats.
K76ssd
He xc 75
Qd
He xraises my 385 to 920, I flat.
3o
He bets 1300, I put him ai ~5k, he folds.

After this about 10min later the game dies.

Next day the fun player messages my roommate and wants to play 3 handed with him and me, 10/25, 10k buyin.

We play, after 2h I'm down 5k and run it back up again. We all win and lose a bit and eventually the end of the night we're all essentially breakeven. Fun player wants to do £500 flips so we play 3 flips and end the night. We also played some hands with antes instead of blinds; rather than playing 10/25, we all put in £300 pre and see a flop and play from there. I don't really have any massive hands from this session, there were a few 5k ones but they were fairly standard. At this point I thought the fun player was getting way better than he was and while it's still profitable to play him, he just seemed more of a weak reg than someone giving away money. Until yesterday...

Yesterday we play 5/10/20, 9 handed. 30min in the session..
UTG limps, I raise QQ 80, see flop 6 ways.
Q43r
Fun player xc 325
Tc
He xc 725
Ac
He leads 2500, I call he mucks.

Felt a bit owned the next hand, he was trying to talk me out of betting (or so I believe)... I bluff regardless and he (tank)calls regardless... I know this is not exactly the best hand to bluff with.
5/10/20 utg limps, I make it 100 with QJdd and get 3 calls.
K85dd
Fun player calls 350
4o
He calls 900
Ao
He calls 1200 with 66 and I lose.

The very next hand I look down at AA and open to 60, co reg calls, fun player sb makes it 240, I make it 800, he jams 6.2k, I hold vs AKo.

5/10/20 reg opens 60, btn calls, sb calls, I'm in straddle 53o and complete.
742r
reg bets 125, sb calls, I raise 425, reg calls.
9s
xx
As
He calls 1650, i win

5/10/20, reg opens 60, sb fish calls, I'm in straddle A5ss make it 300, both call.
QTTss
I xc 500 from fish
9s
I check, fish bets 1k, I put him ai 5.3k, he calls with T9, i lose.

5/10/20, fun player opens 60, I'm btn AQo make it 200, he calls.
QT4r
He xr my 250 to 800, I flat.
K
He xc 1200
J
He donkjams ~7k, I call and win vs 9x.

After this we move casinos and the new game is 10/25 10k min sitdown. We play 6 handed and after a while make the game 10/25/50, and after that just 25/50.
We played 25/50 for a couple hours 4 handed until a new player joins the game and housemate & I decide to call it quits. Not a lot of big hands happened during the 25/50 game, but it's kinda sick how this guy started in the 5/10 games and now we're up to 25/50 10k min buyins, lol. From what I understand, the guy has basically infinitely deep pockets and is trying to learn how to play poker. Fwiw, I do think he's improving lots however still a spot, and a huge one when he's in gamble moods. He's mentioned that he'd be up to play up to 100k sitdown 100/200 blind games, however none of us can afford this obviously. He's leaving in a few weeks...

jesus

And how much did you loose?

Jesus.

gl i guess


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jesus

Haha, it's been fun/good sessions. I don't wanna post graphs atm as it seems like just straightup bragging about run good... maybe will post later!

Thanks sir, i guess. ps. don't fold Q high flushes when your opponent has a 5 high flush!


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Haven't played more with said fun player... Since last update just been grinding live mix of 2/5 to 10/20... played a bunch of 500z, think I may be b/e (at best)... not really an update but may post graphs at end of month I guess.

Haven't really had more sessions with fun hands compared to previous ones, it'll be hard to beat last update...

In an interesting turn of events I'm off to Macau today for 2 weeks and will be visiting home after that, so today marks the end of London for a while!

So, I guess, April and May in London.... Online 100z-500z


Live anything from 1/2 - 10/20/40


... Safe to say I had fun

The fun player from the 10/25 games showed up again 2 days ago, I won money and he texted my housemate I'm not allowed to play with him anymore I'll take it as a compliment for rungood!

Off to Macau...

86k month? wtf
sicko!!!! wp dude

heeeeeeeeeeat!

86k in two months? Meh, I've seen better.

my mannnnnnnnnnn . wp bro!!

bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. brb moving to live poker

have a sick time in macau. be prepared, it's a ***** hellhole