I'm Sry, what I wrote might seem like I'm the worst ever. I'm a winning player online and live, I just feel like I am giving away money sometimes.

The point I wanted to express was example. I raise AJ early 4-5 people call and I brick the flop. To not get the whole table calling I need to at least bet 7bb's pre. Cbetting will never work if I brick, they call extremely light. They won't fold to scare cards on the turn. So basically I can just cbet when I hit a flop. When I hit I'm oop and a lot of bad turns/rivers might hit etc. I just feel like I lose money with this hand over a big sample size even tho I will get a lot of money when I hit the raise size and with so many people calling I feel like I'm bleeding.

I'm not used to 10 players and so many in the pot all the time. Ur suggestions to this situation?

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Send me a message then mate. seems a bit mad to put £50K as your target and then not update it lol

I play on stars playing 200-600nl FR, living in a london grind house. I have a PG&C if you wanna check it out too!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...014-a-1402975/

If they call too much, just Cbet for value

That's the thing I don't feel like I'm doing any money that way. When the sizing live is ******ed I lose more then win with a hand like that. Maybe I'm wrong I don't know. That's why I wanted a pointer to how to play those hands most profitable. Maybe it's the best to just fold AJo early.

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AJo Early open is a leak full ring.

Ok. Ty. So what is a good range early? AJ suited +?

One other thing many so called regs at my tables do is to limp small pocket pairs and low Ax suited hands for, pretty much for the potential to over flush someone. Is that a good play also? I started at $1 blinds so it's a lot of limping from everyone.

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Lol at turning manamans pgc thread into study office.

Sry about that. On a dumb phone atm, can't see any videos and hard to search with it. This app was the easiest and I saw that he played both live and online and could relate to my questions. I won't write again.

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looooool.

HMJ, is live more profitable than 100z for you ?

Is funny kido. Never apologies RE anything to do w poker.

Also... HMV... what is the most profitable attire and accessories to wear live? And online???

^^^ Is Manaman joking ?

Online: Completely naked. Free body free mind maximum creativity

Live: Doesn't matter imo


As for live being more profitable, depends on the game.

Currently playing 5-10-20 PLO and getting absolutely crushed so at the moment no losing bags and bags of money daily isn't what I'd call profitable in the slightest haha

Update

There are many things that I would love to post about my thoughts and opinions on live poker vs online, private games, cash v mtt, young players in the game, true winning regulars and in general an oversight to how my view on poker has changed in the past year. However most of what I have to say is exactly the same as what has already been said by RobFarha here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2232

Special emphasis on mtt vs deep stack cash, and how I hate variance in the gamble fests that are short stacked forms of poker, tourny or cash.


Since my last post I have achieved my goal of playing only 5-5 and higher, mostly 5-10. I think this is an important step because as of right now travelling 25 minutes to the casino to play 1-1 or 1-2 even if deep is really not worth it at this stage in my poker 'career'. The time and money I spend travelling to play poker at low stakes is very much -EV when compared to how I could spend that extra hour at home either relaxing, studying my game, or playing online, not to mention the fuel and cost of food when playing live that is saved. If i lived 5 minutes away this would be very different, but unfortunately I don't so it's what I have to deal with.

This all said my private game has overall been a great success. It's been a mixture of NLHE and 6 card PLO with varying stakes from 5-5 all the way up to 10-20-40. The game consists of myself and the two other biggest winners in the live scene currently, and then a mixture of recs whom essentially just love to gamble it up at higher stakes than are offered by the public games. I was very surprised at some of the people who reached out to me asking to play in the game, as these players would not play in the 1-2 deep stack ( my main game of choice until I started running this private setup ) and chose to play the lowest stakes games offered. Upon asking them why this was, it was because of the atmosphere at the table.

The 1-1 is very much a happy go lucky, have a few drinks and punt in a few quid sort of affair. Whereas the 1-2 is a much more serious affair, partly due to playing for higher amounts of cash, but mainly imo due to the types of players. The private games play far more like a 1-1 than a 1-2, even when the stakes may be 10x higher. A good example of this is how commentators always note when talking about the difference between the main event EPTs and the SHR's, the SHR's are way more casual, despite the increase in money being played for.


Moving more towards results there is a general consensus of how things go when I'm playing ROE ( round of each NLHE/PLO ). I lose all my winnings from NLHE in 6 card PLO. As I've stated previously, I believe myself to be hypercritical when it comes to evaluating my own game, and this is especially important in a game such as PLO due to the massive swings involved. 6 card PLO is pretty different from 4 card PLO, and to my knowledge is much more about pot control and nut pedaling than regular PLO. Due to these reasons, 6 card PLO is not a game for reg battles, as edges are tiny vs people who are capable of folding the second nuts no problem. However it's a game in which a reg can have a HUGE edge vs a rec due to this exact reason. Stacks are in play every hand in 6 card for the rec, whereas that just isn't the case for a reg.

So back to my results, in PLO I'm getting destroyed. -£20k at least. Vs this one particular guy I can't win a hand, it's sick! Thankfully the rounds of NLHE I mop up and put in some headway to filling in my PLO hole. Overall atm I'm down around £5k~ since I started playing in this game, which leaves me roughly even on the last 3 weeks of poker. I find this depressing and motivational. Depressing because I know if I had continued to stick to NLHE, I'd be up chunks however my venture into PLO land has helped me deal with massive swings and more than likely made me a better player in NLHE due to the amount of money I'd been throwing around in 6 card.

At present I'm unsure if I want to play any more PLO, the edge is massive, but variance is also massive, especially at the stakes for my roll. I know for a fact that if I were to run half as good as the villain who has crushed my soul for the last week, I'd be up £20k~ from PLO alone, whereas he's sitting around even due to him just being terrible in general haha.

We shall see! One more week of poker left before I'm off to Spain for a 2 week break. Plan to read a few poker books whilst I'm out there but in general clear my head of it, because for the last 3 weeks all I've done is sleep, eat play poker.

gl every1 and I hope you enjoyed my mind vomit :P


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlI9HGWftCg

first session online in a long time!



meh lol at least my redline is staying strong, had an interesting spot in this hand, unsure if i should be calling river

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $292.24
SB: $235.59
Hero (BB): $207.70
UTG: $147.10
MP: $203.89
CO: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 2 5
4 folds, SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 2 5 3 (2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero raises to $10.62, SB raises to $20.50, Hero calls $9.88

Turn: ($47.00) Q (2 players)
SB bets $29, Hero calls $29

River: ($105.00) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $57, Hero folds



Pretty sure this should be a fold tho considering flop action

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $221.89
Hero (SB): $172.99
BB: $100.00
UTG: $138.70
MP: $44.17
CO: $184.49

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 6 7
1 fold, MP calls $1, CO raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.50, BB calls $3, MP calls $3

Flop: ($16.00) Q 7 9 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, CO bets $10, Hero calls $10, BB folds, MP folds

Turn: ($36.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $22, Hero calls $22

River: ($80.00) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $23.16, Hero calls $23.16





Coaching/helping/sweating two people I play live with a lot. Funny to hear their newby thought processes out loud over skype, nostalgia of myself over a year ago! They crush live so I'm sure after a few preflop adjustments online will treat them well enough to discuss interesting spots with them without it being a monologue

25s should be a fold pre

No, not vs a wide range, IP 200bb deep. Rather 3b 100bb deep.

Think of BvB said your playing HU, you should defend very very wide.

no way 67s is a fold otr, but also not a call otf imo

Surely flop's a fold here? He's cbetting a wet flop 4way including a guy that LCd pre. Also you say it should be a fold on river considering flop action so why not just fold flop if he's showing that much strength?

As played we can't fold river when he bets 1/3 pot.

lol, no way a fold.

And this.

Only me that thinks pre is incredibly loose? Hand that plays pretty meh OOP and the fish is short. Assuming BB is a reg too which makes it even less attractive

haha thanks for the feedback guys. just thinking of what people say about my game when i play live, and their reactions if they were to read this thread. it's not often i get called 'incredibly loose' hahah

i think reason i peeled flop is because with this particular hand on this board i can turn lots and lots of equity and create very strong value hands vs a strong range and get paid ( i am 180bb effective with CO ). saying that 2p kinda falls into that mid section of weak and strong value hand which is what makes this HH somewhat interesting to me, as we get there, but then when V bets river often it's a fold regardless


also to anybody saying 25s is a fold, you're probably leaking too much in the blinds xD

i would 3bet it most of the time 100bb effective but 200bb i struggle to fold anything tbh

calling SB raise in BB with 25s (100% of hands) is not a leak? hmmm

It isn't 100% of hands, firstly.

It has some good, robust equity, hence it being a 3bet sometimes as well. See Janda's article on this weeks article on the TwopTwo magazine.

Ok. Call it >95%. I assume a hand like 62o would be a fold (without read)

I'll check out that article, thanks