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05-07-2014 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TopPair2Pair
Vomit image.

As soon as i saw that image i was about to go full parent ****** in thread telling you how student loan is not for poker degening, but then obv read what you wrote and obv you have a decent approach to life/studying. So well played.

Not long till end of academic year.

The studying hustle will give you the work ethic you need for an magical summer grind plus... 2 month break for poker will make you thirsty for it. Ban on all poker/videos/2+2/studying material until your Summer Ball imo. Then watch a bit of tv poker whilst till banned as foreplay. Then spunk your load Day 1.

Good luck kid
hhahha

it was a joke anyway, i keep loan/uni money separate from my roll :P


not played a hand of poker

however i am watching RIO videos when i go to sleep
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06-04-2014 , 03:16 PM
UPDATE!!!!!


So, exams are done, until monday I hadn't played a hand of poker in around 6 weeks so was looking forward to getting back on the grind.


Then I got there, 9 handed live nlhe 1-2.....SNORE. Remembered why it is called a grind by so many, its honestly so boring...spent most of the time at the table wishing I was online playing zoom! As the table began to break and play went 5-6 handed, I started to get more into my zone, generally dominating the table and crushing fish and regs a like.

Then this hand happened vs a friend of mine

Spoiler:


HJ: £700
CO: £500
BTN ( hero ) : £1000
SB: £500

Hero delt 4 5.

HJ Limp, CO Limp, Hero raise to £10, SB raise to £30, fold, fold, Hero calls

Flop (£67): A Q J

SB bets £35, Hero raises £100, SB calls

Turn (£267): 3

Check, check

River (£267): 2

SB bets £150, Hero raise £1000, SB call (all-in)


Final Pot: £1004

Hero shows 45hh (straight Ace to five)
SB mucks QQ ( set, he told me afterwards )



SB was a player who's game I know quite well, and who I don't think would mind me saying that I help him with his game, because of this when deep and IP, I feel I can play well vs him. I felt pre due to our discussions about LP stealing, and hence ReST'ing, that he would be a lot wider to 3bet pre and hence calling 45s would show a profit due to deep stacks

Flop smashes his range, and in his spot I tend to just go bet bet bet as SB range contains more nutted combos than BTN flatting range, however due to what I know about villain, pretty sure he doesn't think in this way at the time. Also due to how I know he constructs his cbetting ranges, I feel like he would probably bet AK in this spot if his 3bet range was more 3%, which imo is a mistake when super deep, and I would probably put AK into my c/c range.

When he flats my flop raise, I know he is very strong, 2p+, and I'm giving up 90% of turns/rivers. Thankfully board ran out gem and I sucked out ! 3 people between ages 18-25 were standing behind sweating the hand (SB was tanking otr thinking about hero folding) and I could hear them whispering what they thought I had etc, found it hard to not smile as turning up with 45hh in this spot is pretty lol



Plans for summer

1. Grind manchester/online/bham until July when i go on holiday for 2 weeks.
2. When I get back my brother who goes to Imperial has a house for his second year, so going to crash at his for free and grind Vic/Hippo/PB until end of summer

Goals:

-40 hours playtime per week live
-2+ hours a day online play
-Eat 3 meals a day
-Start staking/coaching stable for micros
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06-04-2014 , 03:25 PM
In as it starts to get fun again.

GL! Sort of LOL'd at eating 3 meals a day as a goal, but whatever you've got to do!
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06-07-2014 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HMJ

Goals

[x] Complete exams to the best of my ability
[x] Not play any poker until after exams
[x] Restrain myself from random consumerism spew
Happy about how I've conducted myself over last 6 weeks, worked harder academically than I ever have and was very focused. Had the odd day where I cba but the two guys who I studied with each day motivated me through it, and I would to think I helped them out on similar days :P


In case anybody was wondering how my friend/student was getting on, imo he is beating 50nlz and can play 100nlz full time, being the BRM nit that he is he doesn't wana take big shots and I guess that's fine as it's his money :P So cool to see how far he's come since we began talking poker, I can defo see the appeal of being a teacher, whereas before I didn't. Last update he was 25nl just gone from BE to crushing over good sample, now here is 50nlz ( i asked him if he didn't mind me posting it as there are a lack of graphs itt! ) Gotta watch out or the teacher will become the student pretty soon :P



Interesting to compare this graph and his 25nlz graph where his redline was positive, not sure if that shows him adjusting to more aggro regs, or regs adjusting to his aggro style :P


Live Pokers

Played everyday so far this week, so Mon-Fri. Action has been poor in general and makes me want to move back to Birmingham to grind there where the action is consistently decent and often great. Manchester seems more polarised between ****ty weak tight small games and super juicy whalefests.

Monday: +£761
Hours: 10

Tuesday: +£350
Hours: 7

Wednesday: -£220
Hours: 8

Thursday: +£200
Hours:7

Friday: -£1369
Hours: 13.5


Needless to say, Monday and Friday were whalefests. Last night ( friday ) at around 3am I was losing faith in the live poker scene as I had driven to 3 different casinos trying to find action, to have games break on me when I buy in. Friday is meant to be the best day so it was pretty disappointing. After bricking the last casino I returned to my main wateringhole 235, and after dropped £100 in my first and only hand of PLO, I moved to a deep stacked 1-1 game, which soon became a super juicy 1-2.

Game was 5 handed and essentially it was myself, my two m8s ( both regs ) a whale and a donk, who were both sat deep (£800 and £1300). I pull up to have 2x biggest stack and this is some of the action that follows:


CO (hero): £2k+
SB: £400

Hero dealt 9 6
Preflop (£7):
Hero raises £15, fold, SB Calls, fold, fold.

Flop (£37): 5 7 8
Sb checks, Hero bets £30, SB calls

Turn (£97): 6
Sb checks, Hero bets £70, SB raises to £160, Hero calls

River (£417): 4
Sb bets £195 (all-in), Hero calls

Spoiler:

Final pot: £807
SB shows: A5o (straight 4-8)
Hero shows 96s (straight 5-9)


Next hand wasn't against me, was against my reg m8 at the table. Essentially they got to the turn on 4 2 7 8 Villain has A5dd Hero ( reg m8 ) has 77.

What's important to note about this hand is the pot was around £80 ott and after my friend bet £60, villain jammed for £350+ . Essentially not a terrible play but after he bricks that and get stacked, he reloads and I stack him 2 hands later with that 96s hand, and he looks physically defeated, soul crushed, and on super monkey tilt.

Same guy is SB in this hand

SB: £800
MP(hero): £2k+
BTN: £500

Preflop(£3): Dealt to hero A 4
Hero raises to £10, BTN calls, SB calls

Flop (£32): K 3 4
Hero bets £20, BTN calls, SB raises to £50, Hero raises to £170, BTN folds, BTN raises to £790 (all-in), Hero calls

Turn (£1632): 7

River (£1632): 4

Spoiler:

Final pot: £1632
SB shows 43cc (full house fours full of threes)
Hero mucks



Thoughts on the hand:

My main decision here is from when he raises to £50 otf, my standard line here, so deep, IP with nfd + pair is to flat and play turn and river. In general I think this is higher EV because it keeps all of V's hands that I crush in his range, as well as possibly BTN's hands. However due to the metagame at the table, paired with past action of him jamming draws, I think 3betting is best due to fact I think if he is raising a draw, then when I 3bet he will not fold them, or even call them, but that he will jam them, and due to this I think 3betting in this spot is way higher EV just due to the fact I can get it in with tons of equity, plus I block sets so his value combos that beat me are 44 (1 combo) and 33 (3 combos). I beat everything else equity wise. The rest is just variance ...

Imo when he jams bottom two pair, he's essentially turning his hand into a bluff as anything that will call he is a dog against. But hey i'm not complaining!

Spoiler:


Hopefully people who've read this far have enjoyed what I have to say, as I enjoy posting them, somewhat therapeutic :P

gl all!

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06-07-2014 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HMJ
Some interesting hands imo

I think maybe c/c ott is better or maybe bet bigger and call jam? riv is defo fold i think

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $320.86
SB: $100.00
Hero (BB): $125.67
UTG: $50.00
MP: $298.94
CO: $151.92

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 9 Q
1 fold, MP raises to $3, CO calls $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2.50, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($12.00) 9 Q T (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10.08, MP calls $10.08, CO calls $10.08, SB folds

Turn: ($42.24) 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $26.22, MP calls $26.22, CO calls $26.22

River: ($120.90) 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $45, CO folds, Hero folds

Final Pot: $120.90
MP wins $118.10
(Rake: $2.80)

Have I gone completely mad or is the river not only an easy call but one that should be bet into ? Every draw missed (78, most jacks, most kings, turned flush draws) he has multiple value hands which you beat ( AQ, QJ ,KQ,(10.9, KK, AA, 10x maybe ) , very few hand combos which beat us ( J8,QQ,KJ , QT), J8 being unlikely to be opened from MP and QQ likely to raise earlier due to the drawy board texture) ,and given the pot odds ( calling 45 to win 165 ) we only need to be good <30 % of the time and most of his actual range not beating us , is this not a snap call? This strikes me as someone either value betting KQ or AQ or a missed draw putting us on a missed draw due to the check on the river trying to take the pot cheaply by representing something like what we have ? Furthermore, why bet two streets and then fold on a blank river ? I could be completely wrong and I'd love to hear your logic behind this, but ATM I'm Great thread though, thanks for posting.
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06-07-2014 , 08:00 PM
Also, if we are check/folding on blank rivers, what is the point of betting two streets ? We're never going to bluff him off something which beats us, so it has to be a value bet, so why not bet a blank river in which all of his draws missed and we're ahead of most of his calling range , the flop and turn bets are absolute dead money praying to get checked down otherwise, unless your justification is a semi-bluff aiming to hit a 9 or Q for the full-house, which gives him a huge amount of credit for a straight and does not give you enough equity ???
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06-13-2014 , 12:47 PM
^ Anyone got any more thoughts on this hand, I don't know if any of you can rationalise a fold ? Cheers for the thread as well HMJ
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06-13-2014 , 12:49 PM
I feel the same way as you are Dave, would highly appreciate OP to give his thoughts on the hand.

OP?: D
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06-13-2014 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kronincken
I feel the same way as you are Dave, would highly appreciate OP to give his thoughts on the hand.

OP?: D
Only hands which beat us are KJ Q10 , sets and I don't think we can fold /put him on those , especially given pot odds. I'd lead into the river expecting a call from AQ/KQ. Maybe OP had a read/ history, I don't know.
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06-13-2014 , 02:01 PM
I miss the chip porn
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06-16-2014 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ChickenDave
^ Anyone got any more thoughts on this hand, I don't know if any of you can rationalise a fold ? Cheers for the thread as well HMJ
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kronincken
I feel the same way as you are Dave, would highly appreciate OP to give his thoughts on the hand.

OP?: D
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChickenDave
Only hands which beat us are KJ Q10 , sets and I don't think we can fold /put him on those , especially given pot odds. I'd lead into the river expecting a call from AQ/KQ. Maybe OP had a read/ history, I don't know.

OK OK !!!

I admit this scenario may seem odd at a glance, and it was ages ago ( over 2 months ) so my memory of this exact hand is foggy at best. If I had to guess why I folded here it's because of villain being very nitty in HUD stats ie having high fold vs cbet, low river bet % etc...ie is very unlikely to be bluffing in this spot ever. Vs a balanced river betting range in this spot, Q9 seems like a snap call, however vs a nitty range, even given the great pot odds we are crushed way too often to call.

This may be completely incorrect, but I'm hoping I had a good reason at the time, because looking back I agree with you all in that it makes little sense to fold here haha.

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Originally Posted by Silent-Ghome
I miss the chip porn

I will have to fix this...Had a lot of chips on the table lately but i've been in for chunks at the same time, I prefer chip porn pics where it's mainly profit haha


As for a general update on poker/life/thread. I intend on posting less specifics and more general stuff as I don't want this to affect my live poker antics and it has done in the past so I will have to be more careful. As of this line of text, I have just deleted around 500 words of what I was going to post, and am re-writing it to be more on message. So, this week:


The Negatives

I have run like aids. Out of everybody I play poker with (which is a fair few people) I am one of the best at keeping my lip buttoned with regards to variance. This is partly due to how I see it's mainly the losing regs/fish who bitch about it all the time, and that I don't wish to be associated in that group. So when I look at my own results I'm overly critical. I'm not somebody to simply mark down a cooler as 'standard' especially in live poker where edges can be massive and cooler spots can be avoided. With all this speech work done, this is my official run-bad complaint haha. In general I've had all my strongest value hands vs the two people least likely to pay off. This combined with inability to hit a flop vs fish, and little to no fold equity in these juicy games, has made for a bleak week results wise. However my outlook is somewhat more sunny

The Positives

I am in very juicy games at the moment. As I said earlier I don't wish to go into specifics but essentially I think the problems I had the week before with regards to games breaking, no money on the table, and **** action, won't be a problem going forward. With this being the case, it should hopefully mean I will know when the action is good, so I can be more organised with sleeping/travelling and live play, which frees up time for online poker. Speaking of which I had a session with ChillSkill and he's trying to make me shot 200nlz haha. Idk i have such a small sample size at 100nlz that if I don't particularly feel ready, however he assures me that my thought process is solid and that I should go for it. The shoe is almost definitely on the other foot as just last week I was pushing my friend to shot 100nlz as I thought he was easily good enough, and now I'm reluctant myself haha!

We shall see :P


Oh and I got a new car: 2014 BMW 320d M sport. Pretty nice



Spoiler:
I wish, courtesy car, meh still pretty good deal!



So ya TL;DR is poker as of last week has been pretty bad results wise, but in terms of progression for the future it's been a great experience. Hopefully on my next update I will have mountains of chips to share in picture form! Oh also on the staking stable front, essentially I'm robbing the idea that WCGRider spoke of in how instead of coaching, he simply coaches people he stakes. So far I have one guy and he's doing very well

Until next time glgl!

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06-16-2014 , 03:10 PM
Yeah you must have had a specific read on the guy, doesn't make sense otherwise lol. How soft are the live cash casino games in Manchester / Birmingham and did you just graft your bankroll up playing (0.5/1 )/ (1/1) live ? Good luck on the 200z shots also mate

Last edited by ChickenDave; 06-16-2014 at 03:15 PM.
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06-16-2014 , 03:27 PM
Good luck man crushing! I am currently grinding 25NLz, hoping to be beating 100NLz by end of summer! Where abouts in Manchester do you live?
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06-16-2014 , 07:41 PM
I'll follow this. gl

also, knife party are sick, I like your taste
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06-17-2014 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ChickenDave
Yeah you must have had a specific read on the guy, doesn't make sense otherwise lol. How soft are the live cash casino games in Manchester / Birmingham and did you just graft your bankroll up playing (0.5/1 )/ (1/1) live ? Good luck on the 200z shots also mate
Started with £1k buying in for £100 at the 1-1 tables, ran terrible initially almost went busto twice. I recon if you can beat 25nlz tho, you can crush 1-1, like crush...so £1k would be fine unless you get seriously unlucky

as for the action in manchester/birmingham, i've commented on this before so won't go too in depth, but I think anybody who can beat 25nlz will crush live 1-1 and most 1-2 line ups. People are making mistakes that are fundamentally terrible. I'm not saying there are no good players, there most certainly are, but there are enough **** 'regs' and fish to make a very easy living by playing solid fundamental poker, airing on the side of betting thin for value rather than running large bluffs


and ya hoping to put in some more volume at 100nlz and presuming all goes well will begin shotting 200nlz soon
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06-17-2014 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by HMJ
Started with £1k buying in for £100 at the 1-1 tables, ran terrible initially almost went busto twice. I recon if you can beat 25nlz tho, you can crush 1-1, like crush...so £1k would be fine unless you get seriously unlucky

as for the action in manchester/birmingham, i've commented on this before so won't go too in depth, but I think anybody who can beat 25nlz will crush live 1-1 and most 1-2 line ups. People are making mistakes that are fundamentally terrible. I'm not saying there are no good players, there most certainly are, but there are enough **** 'regs' and fish to make a very easy living by playing solid fundamental poker, airing on the side of betting thin for value rather than running large bluffs


and ya hoping to put in some more volume at 100nlz and presuming all goes well will begin shotting 200nlz soon
Yeah, I find playing aggressive ABC against weak regs/ fish in small live games works best since they have a huge propensity for over-valuing and calling down with bluff catchers. Do larger games run in Manc/ Brum, if so, how frequently ?
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06-17-2014 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ChickenDave
Yeah, I find playing aggressive ABC against weak regs/ fish in small live games works best since they have a huge propensity for over-valuing and calling down with bluff catchers. Do larger games run in Manc/ Brum, if so, how frequently ?
you kinda need to be in London for big games...

most of the hands I posted from here are from private ( invitational only ) games I play in around the north west. Same goes for bham, hence why I'm not playing there currently. I'm playing London most of summer because of the lack of action in non-private games, which are often full of politics and can break at a moments notice so not ideal.

gl tho
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06-18-2014 , 08:54 PM
lol fish

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $102.23
SB: $47.40
Hero (BB): $130.70
UTG: $408.37
MP: $100.00
CO: $79.17

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 2 Q
3 folds, BTN raises to $2, SB calls $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($6.00) 9 Q 2 (3 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $15.33, BTN calls $15.33, SB raises to $45.40 all in, Hero raises to $128.70 all in, BTN calls $84.90 all in

Turn: ($251.86) Q (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: ($251.86) 7 (3 players - 3 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $251.86
BTN mucks Ac Ah
SB mucks Kc Ks
Hero shows 2d Qh (a full house, Queens full of Deuces)
Hero wins $109.66
Hero wins $139.40
(Rake: $2.80)


had no reads on btn except avatar of flaming aces and was showing goldstar, sb is obv fish

one of the weirdest hands i've played tbh. not sure i like how big my raise sizing is otf, was just trying to iso the known fish in the sb, and the btn accidentally got caught in the net hahahahah

oops

Spoiler:
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06-22-2014 , 09:19 AM


OP delivers

Playing a big PLO game tonight so hopefully I run well, things have turned themselves around NL wise, won chunks in past few days and on a heater which is nice :P. PLO I'm down lifetime live, over a relatively small sample, although hoping to change that this evening!

Online is still taking a toll due to the fact I'm waking up at 7-10pm and then heading straight to the casino. My friends/students are doing well tho which is nice to see, despite me being secretly jealous of their progress haha. Also very envious of everybody going to vegas over the next few weeks, I myself will be abroad but in Europe due to an ill-planned family holiday which I committed to, without even thinking about the possibility of playing wsop, over a year ago. Pretty cool reminder of how much progress and hard work has gone into poker in last 12 months.

Gl all at the tables

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06-22-2014 , 10:54 AM
I've recently began playing live nl, as a 6max online player I've been totally lost. There is always 4-5 people in the pot and they call with third pair and so on. Making it Hard to cbet etc. Should i just start to limp more? I know you play both live and online so I Hope u can understand What i mean. Kinda lost to What i Should raise early with also. I guess pretty tight.

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06-22-2014 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by HMJ
  • Be more frugal irl so I can play the higher PLO games live w/ decent BRM
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Oh and I got a new car: 2014 BMW 320d M sport. Pretty nice
Just read the first and last page and this made me lol (even as a courtesy car!)

gl bud, another uk grinder here too
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06-22-2014 , 11:02 AM
What's your profit/ hours played looking like for the year mate ?
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06-22-2014 , 11:05 AM
Subbed, fellow Birmingham online player here looking at starting to dabble in live cash once I've got a decent roll to take a few shots at it, any recommendations on the best casino for low stakes live cash games in the area?
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06-22-2014 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kraykray
I've recently began playing live nl, as a 6max online player I've been totally lost. There is always 4-5 people in the pot and they call with third pair and so on. Making it Hard to cbet etc. Should i just start to limp more? I know you play both live and online so I Hope u can understand What i mean. Kinda lost to What i Should raise early with also. I guess pretty tight.

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Sorry mate but if you are struggling with live poker your understanding of the game must be poor and you're probably losing quite a bit online, try moving down and grasping the game a bit better before playing higher stakes live, because live poker is a doddle in comparison to online. Cruel to be kind!

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Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
Just read the first and last page and this made me lol (even as a courtesy car!)

gl bud, another uk grinder here too
Haha yh car is sweet kills me that I've got to give it back soon where do you play?

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Originally Posted by ChickenDave
What's your profit/ hours played looking like for the year mate ?
Not gona give that out sorry too many people ik irl see this :P

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Originally Posted by McToady
Subbed, fellow Birmingham online player here looking at starting to dabble in live cash once I've got a decent roll to take a few shots at it, any recommendations on the best casino for low stakes live cash games in the area?
Just play online tbh unless you're gona play high live is pointless
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06-22-2014 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by HMJ

Just play online tbh unless you're gona play high live is pointless
Ugh fair enough, I'll get back to you at the end of the summer then GLGL
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