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04-27-2017 , 12:28 PM
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04-27-2017 , 12:53 PM
Lol dude, you asked Aaron what is good cev in 6 man hypers while cev is irrelavant unless you are t20 or hu in an icm heavy format, maaaaybe t30 but again icm starts to be stronger

Back to 15$s now clueless

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04-27-2017 , 01:31 PM
is the whole game considered icm-heavy in 6m hyper sngs ?(realy not having a clue about 6m hypers)..

GLGLGL
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04-27-2017 , 02:44 PM
Icm is an important factor in every sng. Its not important for people who are constantly doing icm suicides obviously
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04-27-2017 , 03:22 PM
lol, 33 is not even a call in cev equilibrium.




gl btw
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04-27-2017 , 04:05 PM
Talking about icm suicides. Trying too hard to be shaba junior



    Poker Stars, $487.52 Buy-in (40/80 blinds, 8 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37713844

    Alex.i1off (BB): 472 (5.9 bb)
    Hero (CO): 1,220 (15.3 bb)
    srxakgirona (BTN): 1,226 (15.3 bb)
    ANDREIIANN (SB): 82 (1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 A



    Hero raises to 1,212 and is all-in, srxakgirona raises to 1,218 and is all-in,



    ANDREIIANN calls 34 and is all-in, Alex.i1off folds

    Hero showed 8 A
    srxakgirona showed 7 7



    Flop: (2,610) J T 5 (3 players, 3 are all-in)



    Turn: (2,610) 9 (3 players, 3 are all-in)



    River: (2,610) Q (3 players, 3 are all-in)



    Results: 2,610 pot
    Final Board: J T 5 9 Q
    Hero showed 8 A and won 2,446 (1,226 net)
    srxakgirona showed 7 7 and lost (-1,220 net)
    ANDREIIANN showed 8 T and won 164 (82 net)



    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.


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    04-27-2017 , 05:56 PM
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    Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr
    Lol dude, you asked Aaron what is good cev in 6 man hypers while cev is irrelavant unless you are t20 or hu in an icm heavy format, maaaaybe t30 but again icm starts to be stronger

    Back to 15$s now clueless
    Oh bb/100 is "IRRELEVANT" you say? Care to prove that? Or are you just trapping off absolute bollox? Hear that everyone? The existance of bb/100 (YES THAT'S THE ABILITY TO TAKE THE OTHER PEOPLE'S BETTING DISCS AND HAVING THEM FOR YOURSELF) is completely irrelevant in 6m hypers. That's right, how you accumulate the things that enable you to get money into your bank is COMPLETELY IRRELVANT. jfc htf did u scam someone into staking u with a 2% lifetime ROI in spaz stakes? oh and not forgetting with your scamming history?
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    04-27-2017 , 06:13 PM
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    Originally Posted by cu_<><
    lol, 33 is not even a call in cev equilibrium.




    gl btw
    if it's a call in ICM (WHICH IT 100% IS) then it'll be a call to cev. some serious schoolboy error **** going on in here, hope his backer isn't Aaron ffs
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    04-27-2017 , 06:22 PM
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    Originally Posted by Grammen1985
    is the whole game considered icm-heavy in 6m hyper sngs ?(realy not having a clue about 6m hypers)..

    GLGLGL
    No, 6max is the LEAST ICM heavy SNG there is, barring HU obvs. oh and spins

    Last edited by Top Pig; 04-27-2017 at 06:33 PM.
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    04-27-2017 , 06:34 PM
    Lol dude instead of clueless you have some serious issues aswell

    I am not going to explain you why a +bb/100 can be -icm spot. This is something you should have learnt when you started playing sngs. If you didnt then you are in the wrong environment, which seems you are. You started playing poker before me and your abi is 15$. No wonder why

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    Originally Posted by Top Pig
    oh and not forgetting with your scamming history?
    Also to point out the low quality thrash you are. You are pointing ''my scamming history'' in an icm spot. To clarify for everyone that reads the blog

    When i started playing poker 6 years ago, pokerstrategy members staked me to play 15$ turbos. I played hu instead and lost the roll. I thought i shouldnt repay because i lost the money playing poker. After talking to Aaron and pointing out why it isnt fair the way i treated i decided to repay all the stake and an additional 10% for the inconvenience

    You come calling ''my scamming history'' which was 6 years ago and i paid back with 10% interested which was MY decision. I think you should derail another thread thrash

    Last edited by belthazorrrrr; 04-27-2017 at 06:46 PM. Reason: quoting
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    04-27-2017 , 06:48 PM
    Lol why have you just invented your own topic that I've mentioned nothing about? Ah you're like a woman, defeated in the point so invent a new one. Classic. I didn't ask you to nor did I reference in anyway about bb/100 having remotely any connection with ICM. Praps you should learn to read properly. The ONLY reason the largest bb/100 of ANY tournament game didn't have THE LARGEST ROI is through variance bull**** and nothing more/less. The better accumulator of chips (aka highest bb/100) wins the most money, I mean it's not too a hard concept to grasp, perhaps one you should've grasped while on those terrible long 3% 9man turbo runs whilst the rest of us were nigh on triple
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    04-27-2017 , 06:55 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr
    Lol dude instead of clueless you have some serious issues aswell

    I am not going to explain you why a +bb/100 can be -icm spot. This is something you should have learnt when you started playing sngs. If you didnt then you are in the wrong environment, which seems you are. You started playing poker before me and your abi is 15$. No wonder why



    Also to point out the low quality thrash you are. You are pointing ''my scamming history'' in an icm spot. To clarify for everyone that reads the blog

    When i started playing poker 6 years ago, pokerstrategy members staked me to play 15$ turbos. I played hu instead and lost the roll. I thought i shouldnt repay because i lost the money playing poker. After talking to Aaron and pointing out why it isnt fair the way i treated i decided to repay all the stake and an additional 10% for the inconvenience

    You come calling ''my scamming history'' which was 6 years ago and i paid back with 10% interested which was MY decision. I think you should derail another thread thrash
    To point out the low quality "thrash" you are (wtf's one of those?), you are TRYING to point out how terrible your opponents are (who aren't here to defend themselves) but it's doubley low and "thrashy" cuz they're not actually wrong. I've derailed nothing, I've defended players who were right. chat **** get ragz'd. justice has been served (y)
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    04-27-2017 , 06:57 PM
    I will not even ask a mode to delete anything because i want everyone to see how horrible you are and i mean as a sng player
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    04-27-2017 , 07:15 PM
    I don't play SNGs and I would fold 33 there.
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    04-27-2017 , 07:33 PM
    I wasnt going to do this but

    We have a bubble spot where the stacks are 200-1800-1000

    btn folds, if you run the spot in icm, bb can call 99+
    if you run the same spot in cev model bb can call 43.2%

    if you call AK it is printing in bb / 100 hence you will get higher winrate in bb /100 but it is very bad in icm as you are losing 3.00+ of the prizepool

    In the long run if you keep making those bad calls your bb / 100 will be higher than someone who is playing icm. In the long run the player who didnt rape icm will have higher roi winrate because he is winning more of the prizepool

    This is lesson number one when someone is STARTING to play sngs and why you cant massacre icm
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    04-28-2017 , 12:40 AM
    That is an extreme example. Even first hand you need 38 chips more than cEV to go broke which is nearly 2bb. Smallest pairs don't win that much against almost any range.

    Even high multiplier spins have some ICM.
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    04-28-2017 , 01:45 AM
    Anyone who has ever used an ICM calculator knows the 33 is a fold and the 77 is a snapfold. These abusive bad regs don't deserve free strategy from you.
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    04-28-2017 , 02:23 AM
    That's not strategy. More like explaining earth is round to a flatearther.
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    04-28-2017 , 02:28 AM
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    Originally Posted by Dydas9
    That is an extreme example. Even first hand you need 38 chips more than cEV to go broke which is nearly 2bb. Smallest pairs don't win that much against almost any range.

    Even high multiplier spins have some ICM.
    I gave an extreme an example because there are people who are playing cash and dont understand the implications of icm. Same principle applies in a less extreme example

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    Originally Posted by NeA
    Anyone who has ever used an ICM calculator knows the 33 is a fold and the 77 is a snapfold. These abusive bad regs don't deserve free strategy from you.


    I wasnt planning to give any strategy in this thread but i dont even consider this as a strategy. Dydas couldnt describe this better

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    Originally Posted by Dydas9
    That's not strategy. More like explaining earth is round to a flatearther.


    You won internet today. WP!!!
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    04-28-2017 , 03:45 AM
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    Originally Posted by Dydas9
    That's not strategy. More like explaining earth is round to a flatearther.
    Yo.

    In for the fun of watching the battle of a mediocre pig with trololol ranges we make a lot of fun of in skype groups and that egomaniac OP with zero manners (who apparently got good at the pokerz tho, gotta admit it's nice to see him grinding hs 6m when he was a sucker 9m reg not too long ago. gl anyway, I got these manners).
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    04-28-2017 , 03:55 AM
    I am pretty sure i made more money than you in 9m hypers in the year i played them

    If you mean in 9m turbos, i could agree as it was my very first format while still learning fundamental strategy

    *not too long ago. It has been 5 years since i was loading 9m turbos (still made enough to live indepedent)

    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...18/?highlight=

    2013 The 9m sucker reg is playing 20k sngs 9m in one month with solid prerakeback profit


    Last edited by belthazorrrrr; 04-28-2017 at 04:05 AM.
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    04-28-2017 , 04:39 AM
    I am not engaging in any kind of ego battle.
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    04-28-2017 , 08:00 AM
    P.S.: I was indeed refering to 9m turbo and remember that you were freaking out if ppl made maximally exploitative plays vs you, wishing them aids and stuff just b/c they owned u at poker. It was kinda funny to watch
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    04-28-2017 , 08:10 AM
    I never wished aids to anyone

    Spoiler:
    only cancer
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