Thanks Jared and thanks MinusEV. You did answer my questions.

Sounds like a great book...

I wish so too, that forum has more traffic, but I also can't provide as much detail around the book either. Which discount are you looking for? The softcover right now is priced at $29.95, so it's actually lower than the pre-sale.

got the book a while ago. rly good read so far definitely worth the price after 100 pages already
thanks jared

The Tilt section has been the most valuable for me. Before I would not try to quantify or think logically about my tilt, I would just try to quit the current session ASAP. I still tilt, but now it takes much more to get me there, and when I do I lose much much less as a result. I can also come off tilt mode much more quickly. Thanks Jared!

@Wendy

Meh, cost shouldn't be an issue if you are serious about getting better. I mean, if you knew with 100% certainty that you were going to get into a traffic accident next week and there was nothing you could do about it, would you opt for the cheaper airbag or would you not care and buy the best one on the market.

A mental error or mistake can result in dozens if not hundreds of BIs lost over time, so if this book helps prevent it, then it's already paid for itself a thousand times over.

I bought the book at the WSOP book alley after meeting Jared the other day and I'm about 75 pages through it. I've already found a couple of points that are going to save me tons of money so as far as I'm concerned, the book has already paid for itself

Basically, why haggle over the price of a goose that lays golden eggs when there is no doubt its going to pay for itself.

That's how I see it. This book is a valued addition in the poker arsenals that winning players should have. Speaking for myself, I'm glad I got it.

Hello Jared,
I read your book (still reading it again and again to grasp all the points completely) and it has totally changed my approach towards poker . But one thing I can't digest is, when I'm in a happy mood (say after I came back after a nice dinner or movie ), and I start my session (in a really good mood ), I just get dealt premium hands or I suck out like GOD.
But when I'm not in a "really good mood", (say I'm bored or play bcos I want to acheive my monthly volume goal), I don't run good and I get sucked out too or run into better hands . I know it's just normal variance and I don't tilt or play different bcos of this.
I have checked the HHs and the way I play when I'm in both states of mind and I don't play different. I play double or nothing Sngs (which really don't need an exceptional A-game plan 2 play, it's just ICM and adjusting 2 players, pretty robotic play throughout the game).
The point is when I'm in a happy mood, everything comes my way and when I'm in a not so happy mood, I know it's just not my day. I have analyzed this over a large sample and I'm sure it's not the other way around. (When I run good, I'm happy and sad when I run bad.
This may sound a bit silly, but I read somewhere that when we are happy, we send positive vibrations and attract luck in turn and when we're sad, we send negative vibrations and attract more bad luck from the laws of universe
IS this true? Can you comment on this subject? and hopefully give me a solution? I have successfully fixed all my mental game leaks (atleast to a certain extent) bcos of your book. I play poker full time now and am desperately trying to get into a good mood, before starting my session.

Thanks in advance

This is a great story because it clearly describes what a lot of players go through and is realistic about what the book can do. It can't produce instant cures - hell if it did, it would cost A LOT more. Really happy to hear you've made solid progress. Keep it up! Of course if you hit a snag, let me know and I'll help you work through it.

Hey Vish - sorry for the delay - I've been busier than expected during the WSOP. (All my client have busted, so I have a little extra time now.)

This sounds a bit like the "Secret" or other things that suggest that energetic vibrations in the world can influence results. But, if you think about it, if that were true, then the person who would "run better" would be the person who was happier or more positive. The competition would shift, not to who was a better poker player, but to who had a better state of mind. This doesn't sound realistic to me.

I'm realizing that you've researched your statistics and formed your opinion accordingly. But, keep in mind, even randomized scientific research is subject to biases. So, in my mind, it's possible that you are seeing what you may want to see, not what's actually happening. It's very common for poker players to run badly and not be able to see their own bad play mixed in. Conversely, when they're running well, it can be easy to miss the mistakes that are made that would have allowed them to make even more. My point is, everyone of us has biases. These biases influence our perspective. Our perspective influences our ability to see the data accurately. (As I said, this is true even in huge randomized scientific studies, and researchers are constantly working to understand what is truth or fact, vs. what is just a correlation or placebo.)

For this reason, I can't be 100% certain that what I'm saying it true. All of my experience say that it is. So I encourage you to look even more closely at your game, and be open to what you find.

It's great to hear that you're mental game is a lot stronger now. I like the idea that you're goal is to work to be in a good mood more often, but don't forget about working on the tactical (poker) side of your game. You can't convince me that Phil Ivey is just in a better mood than most other players. That's not to say that being in a good frame of mind isn't important. Of course it's a critical part, but in my view it's not more important. Mental skill facilitates poker skill. It can't replace it.

What do you think?

Hi Jared,
What you said is 100% true. Thanks for the explanantion I think it's just my instincts.
That said, what do u think about the subliminal tapes that are for the subconscious mind? As you talk about making the subconscious mind learn the things we do (so that it can do it perfectly everytime) like you talk in your book,
Can these mind tapes be any useful? I have made a mind tape for myself from a guide I downloaded from the internet . I have recorded what I want for myself (Like eg : * I will play my A-game every time I play poker, and * I will focus on my health everyday and * I will eat healthy food and exercise everyday,etc), with a binatural beats in the background ( I got it along with the guide). It said this binatural beat will set the mind in a more efficient state while listening to subliminal messages.
I have started to listen to them everyday for 1hr. What is your opinion on this subliminal tapes for the subconscious mind?

Thanks in advance

I had to call it quits in the end ..

I had some great advice off many people including Jared on how to cure my tilt problems, ... but in the end i just could not do it for whatever reason.

A lot of people gave me their time and patience but i just could not break the habit, and i thank the likes of Jared for the help and advice given.

Almost EVERY session was the same, i would just bottle it up until i just had to let it out ... and then any logically thoughts where a distant memory.

I spent ages ( years ! ) going through the same pattern and just could not do it ... ive bought every book under the sun.

It got the point where poker was not remotely enjoyable and in the end i just had to stop otherwise i would probably make myself ill ... its probably already had a negative effect on my health to some degree.

I hated the idea of quitting because it felt like a character flaw in some way .. but in the end, sometimes you have to admit defeat.

Good to hear my post helped Vish. As for subliminal tapes, I think they can have value if they also address the underlying cause of issues limiting your ability to already do the things you want. But, they also need to be realistic. It's impossible to play your A-game every time you play, because your A-game is a moving target, it continues to advance forward. These subliminal tapes can limit your ability to learn because it creates blinders around the things that you need to learn in order to advance your game forward. Using it as a means of encouraging that growth makes sense to me. But, don't think these tapes alone are going to transform you without having to do any work. They're not like the Matrix where you can just download knowledge into your brain.

It can be helpful as a warm-up and to encourage what you're trying to accomplish, but then you need to get in there, learn, do the work, and make the things that are possible, a reality.

Make sense?

That sucks to hear Jos. Did you end up working with a therapist or psychologist too? As I say in the book, when these issues are too tough to work through on your own, seeking help from a professional is a great option.

Well, hopefully poker and your mental game work have taught you thinks that will serve you well in whatever is next up for you. Often, extended breaks can give you the needed perspective to better understand what was holding you back in poker. I certainly wish you well with it, and perhaps we'll see you again in poker.

All the best man,
Jared

For some reason Amazon.com dropped the price of TMGP by 35% today. I'm not sure how long the sale will last, but I'll offer the same discount on Amazon in UK (good for anyone in Europe).

If you haven't picked up a copy yet, now is a great time!

Heya,

From what I've heard so far, this is an amazing audio book! So much so I've ordered the book version.

Cheerz
NZGirl

It's a great book. The first thing that I learned from it is to dig as deep as possible to find the cause of the problem. It is there, but you must be honest with yourself.