Stacks are around $1500 effective.

V1 mid 30s. He's loose... and overvalues and overplays medium strength hands.

V2. Late 50s. It seems like he just started playing poker. He folded his $10 sb PF in a limped pot. He didn't understand what a straddle was etc....

V1 opens to $40 in MP. V2 calls in the HJ. Another loose player comes along in the CO. I have JdQs and decide on a call OTB (my read was this would still likely go multiway if I 3bet). And one of the blinds come along.

($210) JcQd10d
Checks to V2 who bets $80. Co folds. I mis-size raise to $160. Folds to villain 1 who mini tanks and raises to $380. Villain 2 gets flustered and eventually decides to call. Hero should?

I know it's a bit ambitious but vs these 2 particular villains... should i be stuffing the flop?

Not sure why you want advice from LLNL players The highest I play is 2/5, but I'll give it a go:

Vs. these two players, it's very tempting to "stuff" the flop, but I think I just call and evaluate turn -- get a feel for V1 especially. On this board with top two, it's almost tempting to fold, but with your descriptions I don't think it's wise.

What has V1 been showing up with when he raises pre? What about when he check/raises, which is pretty scary here unless your description is dead on.

Fold pre flat flop first time now fold

Yeah pretty much this 100%, stuffing is lighting money on fire. I mean, if you happened to have the best hand and folded or something, nh sirs

I called the raise.
(1350) JcQd10d 9d
Check/Check/ I check (anyone tempted to turn top 2 into a bluff here?)

I don't mind advice from LSNL. 2/5 is my main game. But I've been trying to grind the higher stakes must move games..... and eventually pick up when I get to the reg filled main game. Go grind 2/5 for and hour or 2 and then repeat if the Must Move game looks soft.

I saw V1 showdown 58s coming in for an EP limp. He had Q8s Lojack open where he got in a bunch of chips with middle pair of 8. AXo in a 3bet pot.

Check turn - There are some levels to play on some rivers, but this shallow, in this spot, I am not putting more money in except for the 4 nut outs ofc.

Fold pre - The game as you described, I would stick to having a zero bluffing frequency on any steeet.

Don't turn this into a bluff. You have showdown value. If you bet, you are targetting sets? While making worse two pairs fold? Meanwhile, you are valueowning yourself against flushes and getting called by straights and higher flush draws. If 4 to a flush comes, you probably check it back and if it doesn't, a double barrel may have you valueowning yourself against a flush without the guarantee that a straight folds.

Preflop call is loose but not awful.

Check then small cold 4bet from V1 is AK literally 100% of the time. There are assumptions you can make where calling the additional 220 OTF is +EV, but it involves V1 paying you off a lot and V2 not holding some of your outs. I'd just fold.

From your description it's hard to tell whether V1 is capable of folding AK, but if you think he might be then I actually like bluff shoving the turn. V2 would presumably have bet if he had the flush. Pretty tough call for V1 if he has AK and if he does call, you probably have a lot of outs. This is one of the best bluff hands you could have.

Given OP's read and your flop analysis, wouldn't a turn shove here have basically zero fold equity? A villain that overvalues mid strength hands, almost guaranteed to be sitting on the nut straight given previous streets, that finds a fold to a PSB on a 3-flush board? I'm not sure I see it.

Moreover, if you do hit the flush out, you might actually be able to get some value on the river against this particular villain anyway.

"Overvalues mid strength hands" is kind of ambiguous. Not being too concerned by what his kicker is on a top pair, say, is one thing and completely ignoring the existence of a flush against two opponents who called hefty bets on the flop is another. I'm assuming that if OP meant "calling station" he'd just have said that.

I like a check on the turn because of the showdown value. If you really think they will fold hands better than top two, go for it, but I'll take the card vs. these two.

BTW, glad to know there are players like this at 10/10! I doubt I'll be moving up from 2/5 any time soon, though.

Any more discussion on why we're flatting this flop? I don't mind the raise, I do agree fold pre / now fold based on the action though.

I think V1 could be overplaying worse 2p.... and who knows what the hell V2 has. Wonder if anyone can guess what he had?

It's not uncommon for the biggest game running to be a better game than say a 2/5 full of grinders and others with their weekly pay on the table