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04-30-2016 , 12:50 AM
hand 1
1-2, with a 5 straddle

MP (150) raises to 20. He's loose and/or on tilt.

HJ (100) calls. He's a solid, conservative-esque guy, but he knows MP is loose so he's widened up I'm sure.

I'm on the button and cover. The small blind is bad and has a small stack, the big blind is tight-ish and has about 300. The straddler is new with 200. Seems like an action guy.

Fold? Call? Raise? The two players in the hand have only about 250 combined so putting in 20 to set mine ain't so hot. Folding? Eh. I might have the best hand against these two ... they might have something like A5s and KQo, among many other possibilities. And if I call and there are more callers, set mining becomes attractive. So maybe I should call after all. The again, a nice raise to 110 or so would be a nice aggressive move. Or do I call and then try to use my position to take it down on the flop if that seems wise?

hand 2
1-2

77 in mp. Limp, limp, MP makes it 10, I'm next and I call, CO calls, Button makes it 20, BB calls, one limper calls, original raiser to 10 calls the 20 .... whoo-hee, back to me. I call and CO calls, so there's about 120 in the middle as we go to the flop.

I've got about 150 left, rest of table is between about 100 and 500.

Flop is a J, 10, 7, two clubs.

check, check, check, comes to me:
Easy shove?
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04-30-2016 , 12:58 AM
Hand 1: Fold

Hand 2: I'm checking. While this looks really sweet, anyone flopping a straight is checking hoping someone else bets.
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04-30-2016 , 04:23 AM
1: fold. Stacks not deep enough to set mine.

2: shove. You have just over a PSB left. You wouldn't mind picking up the pot right away while your shove can get called by plenty worse. I'm never slow playing this flop. So many cards OTT can either kill your hand or kill your action.
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04-30-2016 , 02:13 PM
1: If MP has super wide range and HJ didn't call then you can re-raise. Otherwise don't burn money and fold.

2: Shove, there's enough in the pot.
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04-30-2016 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by quemado
Hand 2: I'm checking. While this looks really sweet, anyone flopping a straight is checking hoping someone else bets.
With your stack left, if someone has 89 or a higher set, so be it, we're never getting away from this, plus we have some equity against the made straight.

This is an easy shove on a very wet flop, and if we take it down as-is, it's hardly a disaster.
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04-30-2016 , 04:32 PM
These both seem obv.

Hand 1 never is a call. Routine muck, unless you are feeling particularly gambly - then it could be a shove.

Hand 2 can't just check - so it's a raise. And if it's a raise - you are committed... so I'd shove.
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04-30-2016 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by quemado
Hand 1: Fold

Hand 2: I'm checking. While this looks really sweet, anyone flopping a straight is checking hoping someone else bets.
Lol at this....troll (I hope)

First hand I like a fold but calling seems fine and 3betting light seems fine if you think they will fold, but if you get called 77 is gonna be hard to play post flop.

Second hand, anything but just shoving is terrible. If everyone folded don't beat yourself up, it's a waaaay better result then losing to a free card gut shot. Don't be results oriented.
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05-03-2016 , 12:52 PM
I agree with most of what has been said. fold 1st hand e shove the 2nd
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05-03-2016 , 01:35 PM
Agree with most. Fold Hand 1; shove Hand 2. Never, EVER, checking Hand 2.
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05-03-2016 , 01:38 PM
Hand 2: Shoving is ok, but I prefer betting smaller to keep Villians ranges as wide as possible. If someone has an OESD or a flush draw they are not folding to our bet on the turn regardless of runout (getting at least 5-1) so the argument about scare cards OTT is meh IMO. One pair+overcard/backdoor draws and pair+gutshot type hands are drawing slim to dead and are highly sensitive to sizing.
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05-03-2016 , 01:42 PM
kookie, what do you bet? We have $150 with a $120 pot.
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05-03-2016 , 02:13 PM
I like checking flop in H2, doubt it gets checked around and it allows the players who checked before us to get it in badly vs us.
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05-03-2016 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jonrubs
I like checking flop in H2, doubt it gets checked around and it allows the players who checked before us to get it in badly vs us.
Is your plan to check/raise or check/call?
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05-03-2016 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
Is your plan to check/raise or check/call?
CRAI
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05-03-2016 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jonrubs
CRAI
At least that has merit. I really, really hope CO or BTN has a good enough hand here to bet into five players.
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05-03-2016 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
At least that has merit. I really, really hope CO or BTN has a good enough hand here to bet into five players.
Button seems like a dolt, I mean he made it $20 after a $10 open so I would suspect he would wayyy overvalue his overpair here/potentially AK.
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