1/2 game @ casino

Villian: Hispanic kid(maybe early 20's) wearing Sox cap, sox jersey. Shaved head, very vocal at the table. Listening to music through his cell phone.

Has been opening huge amounts after limps or lets say someone opens $7 and a myrid of calls, he'll throw out a huge raise w/ position.

He came to the table with $200, he's almost up to $400 at this point.

Hero: I'm in my mid 40's, probably have a nitty image. It's late. I've been into my session I think for 6hrs. I probably seem tired.

We are 6 handed.

utg $200: opens for $7
utg+1(hero) $400: calls $7 with JJ
mp: folds
btn(villian) $400: raises to $20
blinds fold
utg: folds
utg+1(hero): calls $20 <<<---time to raise?

Flop: J95r

hero: checks
villian: bets $30
hero:??????

Easy. Hesitantly call the flop, and check-raise the turn. Okay to slowplay w/in limits here.

Why didn't you 3-bet UTG? If he played back at you, you would have had an inexpensive, easy fold. If not, you would have been able to gain initiative and rule out KK, QQ, and maybe AA (depending on how he plays.)

Make a note that UTG's utg range is insanely wide if he's opening and folding to a 3x 3bet.

I'm fine with your line preflop.

Definitely flat the flop. If the turn card you think hits villain (basically an over card I guess) I may take the lead, he'll have a decent hand wanting to get to showdown and you can control the sizing in order to get max value. If turn card is brick I hope he wants to barrel again and go for a c/r.

I think you should be 3-betting UTG to about 20. If Villain 4-bets you, then it does become an easy fold for you pre. Also, I could see villain calling with QQ/AK if you 3-bet UTG because he doesn't want to make the pot much bigger than it is already becoming.

I like check-call flop, because the board is pretty dry. Check raise the turn, and hope to get it in, assuming he has a big pair.

Flatting the flop makes the pot about 110. Hero and Villain are both at 350 left now. Check the turn and Villain bets say 75... you're going to jam for 5x that? You're only getting paid off by coolers. Although we'd love to get ai I don't think it's happening, at least not on the turn.

And Villain is a young lag, we can't just put him on big pair and play it like that. His range up to now (3b pre, cbet flop) is a lot wider than that. We need to take into consideration his entire range.

That is true. I don't expect to jam after a turn bet, I think that if villain bets, i.e. 75, we can raise to 200-220. That is more than half our stack, so we're committed to the pot, so if villain has a real hand, we get it in, but if villain doesn't we take the pot right down there.

Sorry for not being more clear on my previous post.

Call lead out for 30 on every turn to induce a raise.

Why aren't we leading the flop?

The hands we hope to get it in against here are overpairs. If the described villain has an overpair, surely he is going to raise the flop, right? Then after two bets have gone in the flop, it now makes sense to call the flop and then check-shove the turn.

This villain might even bluff-raise if he thinks our lead out is a marginal hand and he can push us off it.

Yea I like a lead flop.

OOOhhh I love it when people talk dirty +1

If Villain has an over pair and we c/r or b/r we're likely getting ai either way, so not leading doesn't seem to lose us value. If he has air (unpaired overs, even ATs) and we c/r or c/c and then lead turn we at least get flop value from his garbage hands b/c he cbets almost 100% from description.

I guess it doesn't matter if he's floating very lightly but I didn't think checking the flop cost us value.

hes lag, so leading can cause him to spazz or overvalue his hand. Meanwhile a check/raise basically sends off alarm bells and he will only continue with made hands and even those will basically call and reevaluate turn.

check/call (with disgust); check/call (thirty second decision); check/raise. Hand over.

Since a $7 open in this game really means nothing regardless of postion and we were shorthanded. I decided it was reasonable to flat the raise hoping to induce the button to raise.

That is where it seemed to fall apart for me. Got what I wanted wasn't sure what to do after he raised. Felt the safe thing to do was call, but not sure it was correct.

Then of all horrors I do this on the flop:


Don't you think with my image that a lead on the flop would set of some alarm bells, like I hit 2-pair or a set? I felt the lag/table thought I was playing tight.

In spots like these I've recently been c/c flop and leading turn. I think leading the flop would be good here too. C/r represents alot of strength and they can get away easier just like in this example.