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03-28-2017 , 09:04 PM
1/2 villian REG raises 10 cut off
hero early 20s asian dominating. 1k stack in the SB with 85hh call. BB call.

flop Jc 6h 5c

check to V bet 20
I call
BB fold

turn 2h
check
V bet 50
call

River Jd
check
V bet 110 300 behind
raise 350

thoughts?
03-28-2017 , 09:05 PM
Fold pre.
03-28-2017 , 09:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by flopturntree
thoughts?
What's the deal with the smiley in the title?
03-28-2017 , 09:33 PM
terrible hand played terribly.
03-28-2017 , 09:35 PM
Fold pre fold flop fold river unless you like burning money

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03-28-2017 , 09:50 PM
Epic spew.
03-28-2017 , 09:54 PM
I assume that the in the title is indicating that you won the hand and that this is a brag post. Looks pretty spewwy. Pre is bad for sure. Flop call is bad for sure. Turn is meh. River is alright I guess. Tough for him to call without Jx or a boat. QQ+ maybe makes crying calls but he raised in the CO, so I doubt his range is that narrow.

Last edited by Redskins 47; 03-28-2017 at 09:59 PM.
03-28-2017 , 09:55 PM
Disagree with every street but turn as a default. I can think of circumstances under which I might make each of those plays given certain dynamics, but very, very rarely.
03-28-2017 , 10:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redskins 47
I assume that the in the title is indicating that you won the hand and that this is a brag post. Looks pretty spewwy. Pre is bad for sure. Flop call is bad for sure. Turn is meh. River is alright I guess. Tough for him to call without Jx or a boat. QQ+ maybe makes crying calls but he raised in the CO, so I doubt his range is that narrow.
I kind of assumed op got lucky against AK and wanted to brag. Obviously the times villain is 3 barreling with AK are outnumbered by the times he has you beat.
03-28-2017 , 11:19 PM
lol I was wondering what everyone was talking about for a while there because I missed the bit where CO raised. I was like "not complete 85hh in SB? wtf nits".

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garick
Disagree with every street but turn as a default. I can think of circumstances under which I might make each of those plays given certain dynamics, but very, very rarely.
c/c flop is plausible imo, you will be able to rep a bunch of stuff on later streets.
03-29-2017 , 12:29 AM
I think all value hands less than a Jack are checking behind this river so you should just call with your pair.
03-29-2017 , 12:55 AM
Fold pre. Seriously, fold pre. Why with the not folding pre?

I don't hate the flop call if we think his opening range is wide and he's cbetting a high %. But it's never going to be super profitable, which is kinda why folding pre.

Turn is fine. Depending on reads & images, I might be on board with a c/r as a semibluff given stack sizes.

River is complete spew. His bet is almost certainly polarizing, and we're ahead of the bluffs. If he's got enough air in his range here, just call. It's pretty unlikely he's betting anything ahead of us that'd fold to a c/r since Jx is so obviously a big part of our perceived range.
03-29-2017 , 05:25 AM
Actually, contrary to the above post. I like your pre and flop play. I don't like the turn call. If you decide to turn your pair into a bluff, then you should do it on the turn. You have decent equity if you got call, and you have way more credible bluff then to do it on the river, when he can check back a lot of 1 pair hands that beats us. Which now, we transition to the river when a very polarizing J spiked and he decides to 3 barrel with that card. He's actually reping trips or better. So, raising will accomplish nothing. If he's bluffing, he's folding but he will call you if he has what he reping. He's never betting a hand as good as AA for value. So you really can't hope to fold out better. So, the river play is pretty bad.
03-29-2017 , 06:38 AM
Can't believe you guys that are suggesting to fold pre..
03-29-2017 , 08:25 AM
OK, now I know this is just troll bait. Closed
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