Originally Posted by quesuerte
Hate to bang on about pre but I find this interesting. I'd rather call HU v the raiser in this spot than 4th in the pot and a massive probability of at least one more.
Stack size issues are made worse by more callers because the SPR is low which is a disaster with our particular hand.
The advantage of position almost disappears and we end up getting in a tonne of money with bad draws and **** pairs.
I think this is a case where the massive opens, very multiway pots and frequent short stacked villains (or hero in this case) far outweigh the button and a pretty hand.
Originally Posted by stampler
your hand is nice to look at, but when you call $25, it's not the $25 thats the problem,
it's that the SPR is now @3:1, and you can't play profitably with Jack high.
In practice, it's not that much better than 56, really.
How deep do you think Hero needs to be to make this call on the BTN?
My thoughts were that $350 was a decent amount behind because we'd have enough chips to generate FE if we did hit a draw and conversely if we miss or whiff we could fold without the $25 pre really hurting our stack.
Lastly, seems a bit strange to me to prefer being HU vs multiway with JTs on the btn quesuerte. In my mind, we want the direct odds to make the call worth it since majority of the time we are whiffing.
Or am I just getting enamored because we're on the button and our cards are sooootttteeeddd
Basically, are we drawing the short stack line at 65bb???
I guess in my mind, that line is drawn at 40bb ish...