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Originally Posted by silversunn
I find it extremely hard to believe we would lose money in the long term by limping 67s on the button 60bb deep with 3 limpers
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Of course you do. It's because you are a donk. Donks have all sorts of leaks that they aren't even aware of. Since they do it they assume it's correct. We've explained why and even offered some examples and basic logical deductions and You still refuse to believe it. Which is great for the 2+2ers who you don't know about who are at your table.
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Originally Posted by silversunn
saying raise pre is better than limp is just LOL
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the fact that you think limping is better than raising on the button belays your ignorance.
If given a choice in your spot between limping here or raising its a clear raise. Any decent winning player would agree.
Fold > raise > limp
Google "raise + cbet" or search 2+2 threads for cbetting so you understand why and how cbetting is very profitable...
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Originally Posted by silversunn
Why would you call that flop??
Maybe that's why you lose money with 67s on button with 3 limpers..
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I'm trying to decide if you are just trolling or if you are serious. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since 2+2 is about learning and helping others who wish to become better.
Do you understand equity and ranging? On the flop we are getting 4.7:1 on our money. We need 17.8% equity in order to call and mid pair gives us that. Plus we have position and enough chips to generate fold equity on the turn in the event that players show weakness on the turn.
For example, let's say on the turn V bets 5bb instead of 9bb and other V just calls, then we'd be correct in raising 20bb as a semibluff (hence why position and image is important) and given our equity our semibluff would have to work less than 25% of the time to be profitable.
And if we are called and brick river, we have enough chips to generate fold equity w an all-in shove.
So my young Padawan, as Yoda would say, "much to learn you still have..."