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Originally Posted by sai1b0ats
You have either read Tommy Angelo often, or you are Tommy Angelo. 50/50 obv
I assure you I am not qualified to carry that man's yoga mat, but thank you for the kind words.
I did read his book "Elements of Poker" many moons ago, and was heavily influenced by his thoughts. I had friends that played poker, and were clearly better than me, yet were unsuccessful. And it became obvious that if I could always play my A-game, even a simple, SS strategy, I would accumulate more EV than a brilliant player who decimates with his A-game, but loses multiples of that tilted.
Bonus: As a shortstacker in a live game, provided you follow the script you never really play good or bad. You simply play.
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Originally Posted by DalTXColtsFan
Pot is 13.5bb Flop comes 762r with one heart. Checks to me and, with 35.5bb behind, I c-bet 7bb. Seems plenty on that reasonably raggedy board. SB folds, limper calls.
It appears reasonable, however the c-bet of 7bb requires that you then play poker on the turn. This is a terrible thing to impose upon a mere mortal. As any 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, T, Q, K or A could complete a hand that beats you.
That's, like, 96% of the deck.
Unless you have some deep-seated psychological imbalances, I don't really see the merit in putting yourself in this predicament. But then again, we all play for different reasons, and I suppose self-flagellation is as valid as any.
Nonetheless, if I may offer a suggestion ...
The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.
- Sun Tzu
Let's assume he calls with a straight draw and we are stacking off with any turn card. A straight draw requires 4.8 : 1 odds on the turn. Thus 4.8 x 7bb = 33.6 bb. The total pot he can win is 15.5 bb + 35.5 bb = 49 bb. So you are essentially giving him 49 bb - 33.6 bb = 15.4 bb every time you make this play.
Let's say he has two overcards, he now requires 6.8 : 1 odds. Thus 6.8 x 7 = 47.6 bb. You have 49. You are now giving him 1.4 bb. Better, but on a long enough timeline you go broke with 100% certainty.
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Try this instead:
Bet the pot on the flop.
Is he on a straight draw? 13.5 bb x 4.8 = 64.8 bb. He loses 64.8 - 49 = 15.8 bb every time he makes this call.
Does he have overcards? 13.5 x 6.8 = 91.8 bb. He loses 42.8bb every time he makes this call.
It doesn't matter what comes on the turn, he has already lost.
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Now you may well argue that a competent player would never call a draw with those odds, but they do. Everyone on this forum has. Phil Ivey has. We simply have to follow the script, hour after hour, and give our opponents the opportunity to fall into error.
It's simply a matter of time, pressure, and a little discipline.
All the best,
Flux