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Old 05-17-2011, 09:11 PM   #91
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"The Theory of Poker" is a good book. There are a couple of caveats that go with it.

First, it was written well before the NLHE era. You're going to see a lot of examples from games that you don't have much experience with. You're going to have to translate some of the advice into what is useful for NLHE.

Neither Sklansky nor MM are particularly good at explaining complicated ideas clearly and simply. I've owned the book for years, and only now can I figure out the full implications of some of the statements. Often, tremendously valuable statements are buried in mounds of other text. Often I've grasped a concept from participating on these forums, then re-read what he wrote and thought, "****, that's what he meant."

In the end, I think it is one of those books you need to read because everyone else has read it, but it isn't going to transform your game. Mainly because what would you won't understand fully.
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Old 05-18-2011, 06:37 PM   #92
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"The Theory of Poker" is a good book. There are a couple of caveats that go with it.

First, it was written well before the NLHE era. You're going to see a lot of examples from games that you don't have much experience with. You're going to have to translate some of the advice into what is useful for NLHE.

Neither Sklansky nor MM are particularly good at explaining complicated ideas clearly and simply. I've owned the book for years, and only now can I figure out the full implications of some of the statements. Often, tremendously valuable statements are buried in mounds of other text. Often I've grasped a concept from participating on these forums, then re-read what he wrote and thought, "****, that's what he meant."

In the end, I think it is one of those books you need to read because everyone else has read it, but it isn't going to transform your game. Mainly because what would you won't understand fully.
Thanks for the solid and thoughtful post I appreciate your thoughts!
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:04 PM   #93
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I have only watched a little of it but Live at the Bike probably the closest to televised Live Low Stakes. The Bart Hanson commentary is significantly better than the David Tuckman and the girl.

Bart recently played on LAB and is using the footage to incorporate into his forthcoming video series "Poker with your pants on" on DC. It will be a combination of live play and hands from live play entered onto a hand replayer. Although it is 5-10NL much of the play Bart Hanson describes is comparable to lower stakes games.

I recently joined DC for the Tommy Angelo series and to watch some of the microstakes stuff looking for concepts that might be relevant. I intend to keep my subscription at least through the completion of the Bart Hanson series and re-evaluate it then. I suspect that after Black Friday DC might try to utilize Bart for more subscription based content now that they have cut his free podcast to every other week.

As a side note, it may not a bad idea for a live player to be familiar with online approaches to the game simply to understand your opponent's thinking a little better if you anticipate more online players joining your game post Black Friday.
I just wanted to follow up with this post. I watched a full episode of Live at the Bike tuesday and found it to be pretty good stuff.

Also I just joined Duces Cracked (in my second month) and the first episode of Bart's new "Poker with your pants on" live series is up. I only checked out a couple minutes of it but it looks pretty good. I am not trying to pimp DC but I would suggest that 2 months worth of DC just to watch Bart's series and tommy Angelos Eight fold path videos and maybe a couple micro FR vids is probably worth the cost of a book or two.

Whether DC would continue to have value for a live player is another story but I am excited to see the new live series.
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Old 05-22-2011, 07:52 AM   #94
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Live at the Bike ... pretty good stuff.

the first episode of Bart's new "Poker with your pants on" live series is up.
Bart Hanson is really the best instructor trying to explain live cash games with current material. As Black Friday fallout continues and the market responds, we will hopefully see more attention paid to the live game. CardRunners is also promising new vids "in the pipeline".

As a live player who transitioned to online but never stopped playing live, I welcome the attention.

If you can find it, there is an entertaining old Bike video where Jamie Gold (pre-WSOP fame), sits in , busts out, and leaves.

And thanks to venice for modding this forum. He was tough to play when I sat with him online playing uNL, but the puppies always made me smile.
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Old 05-22-2011, 12:04 PM   #95
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Oh dear, this isn't a book, but it's a great recommendation IMO:

Listen to Bart Hanson's Deuce Plays, which is the Deuces Cracked podcast. Listen especially to his live hand review episodes, they are absolutely fantastic.
i listen to this all the time... definitely helps analyze hands, learn how to think about hands... also has some good interviews

as for books, i still like the harrington on holdem vol 2... lots and lots of hand examples, how to play hands vs different opponents in different positions with different stack sizes, lots of scenarios...

i just downloaded professional no limit by miller, and so far i find it really basic, no advanced concepts....
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If you can find it, there is an entertaining old Bike video where Jamie Gold (pre-WSOP fame), sits in , busts out, and leaves.
A link to this would be so money.

I'm 2/3 through HoC v1 right now and have found it beneficial. Certainly enough to justify getting v2.
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Old 05-23-2011, 06:43 PM   #97
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baluga whales "easy game" is phenomenal. very well written and easily understandable concepts. Also this book intentionally stays away from in depth math and instead breaks the game down to language that any poker player should be able to benefit from.

For people looking to move up stakes, or for the math guy, there is and exceptional video series on youtube called "Game Theory Poker" it contains 8-14 minute video segments that go in order called "Game Theory Poker 1", "Game Theory Poker 2" ect. and go all the way up to 31. Each video builds on previous videos concepts, and they get int some very "juicy" stuff. They touch on many complicated and advanced ideas/strategies, and is some of the most impressive, and thorough work ive ever seen.
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:50 PM   #98
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A link to this would be so money.

I'm 2/3 through HoC v1 right now and have found it beneficial. Certainly enough to justify getting v2.
Head on over to www.Pokernetcast.com. You'll need to sign up and subscribe for archived shows beyond the latest two shows (last two shows are free to view). Right now on the home page they are showing the Bike Mega Million Tourney - no commentary or hole card cams.
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Old 06-01-2011, 06:17 PM   #99
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Just got Professional No Limit Hold'em and Angel Largay No Limit Texas Hold'em: A complete course in the mail. I want to say thank you guys for the recommendation. I'm really enjoying Largay's style so far. I like the drills he recommends as I have been looking for practical games to play to improve my skills at the live table.

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Old 06-01-2011, 08:16 PM   #100
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you have to pay a subscription fee to get access to Bart Hanson's videos, right? they're not free like his podcasts? : (
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A link to this would be so money.
At about the 11:00 minute mark. Google is our friend.

http://www.pokertube.com/free-poker-videos?movie=6754

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Old 06-23-2011, 09:07 PM   #102
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PNLHE vol 1 and SSNLH are amazing. SSNLH is very applicable to the live environment. Some of the best post flop and profiling advice I have read in a book.
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Old 06-23-2011, 09:33 PM   #103
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for mental game

the poker mindset --- this book will prob save you so much $$ its just a must for any player who takes the game seriously live or online 5/5

your worst poker enemy-- also a great read about the mental side 4/5

elements of poker-- to be honest this book did not really enlighten me as much as mindset or worst poker enemy. but stilll an ok book 3/5
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Old 06-23-2011, 11:42 PM   #104
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i ddint like poker mindset too much, but mayeb ill give it another chance. I wish tommy angelos book wasnt formatted that way, but i heard hes coming out with another book, hopefully it isnt just a bunch of lil anecdotes.

the book that i felt helped me out a lot recently was easy game, PM me for details . but the book i read the most without a doubt was sklanskys NL theory and practice.
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Old 06-30-2011, 05:24 PM   #105
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Anyone read "The Mental Game of Poker" by Jared Tendler?

I'm considering buying it, any comments on it appreciated.

It's ~$50 on Amazon.com, has 12 5-star reviews but the reviewers histories show they only reviewed that 1 book only-so was wondering if they were just friends of his putting up good reviews
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