9 max, 1-2$.
I(200$ stack) utg with qq raise 12$, utg+2(new player, 200$ stack) calls, MP(tight player, 200$ stack) calls, SB(loose player, 200$ stack) calls.
Flop 8Js4s.
BB bets 15$, I raise to 45$, utg+2 calls(he asked me how much i had), MP folds, BB folds.
Turn 9s.
I checks, utg+2 pushed all in, I fold.
What do you think about my play on turn?
AsJo
AoJo(how many combos we can give idk)
KoJo(same as AoJo)
KsJo
QTs
JTs
JTo (not sure how many JTo we can give here , if any, again reads)
56s
KQs
AsXs
67s
KTs
Can we give him more suited hands? Can we get rid of AQs or AKs?These are things you should know more than us.
Probably not many QTo, maybe you could give him 1-2 combos out of 12. I'm not sure who BB is, if he's SB and you messed up, I still don't really know what loose player means. That's not very descriptive of his tendency of looseness.
I'd like to believe 88/44 Jam flop. Again, this is where villains tendencies make a picture a little more clearer.
If you can start to add combos of JoTo, I'm going to say we have enough combos we should be happy to call.
If he does with KoJo, same thing.
If he does it with only AoJo+, it becomes bad, and if you can start to add sets into his range, you probably need him to do this with JoTo.
Preflop range need to be tight especially against several loose players behind.
Flop reraise range need to be EXTREMELY tight in a 4 way pot. QQ is near the bottom of our flop reraise range, and it is at THE bottom of our range if you don't reraise AJs on the flop.
Therefore, absent of any notes on villain's player tendencies, we can fold the bottom of our range here and continue with JJ, 88, AA, 9Tss (may not be in our range given how tight we want to play), and maybe KK. We do not show up on the turn with hands like TT, 99, AQ, etc because those hands are not reraising on the flop. Therefore, QQ is the bottom of our range along with 3 combos of AJ depending on if you reraise with AJs or not.
Also, you need to reraise bigger on the flop, you're giving direct odds for drawing hands.
Tricky spot. If you call the BB donk, the remaining players get over 5:1 to call. Great odds for both flush and straight draws to see the turn. Raising commits you and you're probably screwed if someone behind you calls or shoves.
I lean toward a call because BB usually has a weaker Jx hand and I don't want him to fold. You block two nut straight outs. The board isn't super wet despite mild connection and a 2-flush. You should fold if the action blows up behind you. I think a raise is too risky in a four way pot and oop on two players. I'd plan to gii on all non-A,K,J and non-spade turns. Really depends on the action behind, the turn card, and BB's response.
I don't think a raise is terrible because the SPR is <4. I'd make it ~$80-90 and plan to gii on all turns.
