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QJs late position, won the hand but have no idea if I played right or donked out QJs late position, won the hand but have no idea if I played right or donked out

05-16-2015 , 10:56 PM
This is my first time posting so bear with me. I recently moved from 1-2 to 5-5.

I have $650 behind, 8 handed, I'm in LP. There's a limp then a 4x raise to my right (pretty standard at this table). I wake up with QJs, and the raiser is deep stacked. I smooth call my suited connectors with just the Button left to act. Button calls the raise. Original Limper calls the raise, everyone else folds.

Now we're 4 handed, with $80 in the pot. Flop is KQJ, two hearts. Limper checks. PF raiser checks. I'm looking down at two pair on a drawy board. I bet $65. The Button calls my $65, Limper calls my $65, and PF raiser folds.

Now we're 3 handed, with $275 in the pot. Turn is an 8, off-suit.

Limper now open shoves his remaining $200 into the pot.

This is what I'm thinking at this point:

- The 8 doesn't make a difference unless he's holding K8. He wouldn't have just called on the flop with 88.
- If he flopped a straight, why smooth call my $65 with another caller? Better to raise off that flop, especially with the hearts on the board
- The only other hand I'm worried about is KQ. KK, QQ or JJ would have reraised the flop or preflop. But for him to have KQ, on that board, it would be silly of him *not* to raise, again, with another caller in the hand.
- The Button to my left is a known loosey goosey. He's almost definitely on a draw, a flush draw with a straight draw at best. I don't want to just call and give him odds to call.

So I shove my remaining $500, and the Button instacalls. Now I'm worried I walked into two monsters.

The river is a Q.

I show my rivered FH, and everyone mucks. Which means limper #1 didn't have KQ. I'm fairly sure the Button had a draw, but I don't know for sure.

What did these people have? And did I make the right move?
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05-17-2015 , 12:12 AM
Seems standard to me.
Looks like you probably sucked out but your thought process is good overall.

I would expect the button had close to the nuts OTT.
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05-18-2015 , 01:33 AM
Hard to tell as you didn't describe what kind of players are involved in the hand.

This is my best guess:

1. The limper who shoved $200 had K8 or 88. Anybody can just call with 88 pre-flop.

2. If he had 88 and smooth call, you got yourself a fish. Best guess is K8ss.

3. A loosey goosey player who called may have had Ace hearts type of hand to make that call, so yes could have been AThh

You played it very aggressively and got lucky. I would have folded that bottom-two-pair.

Nice hand.
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05-18-2015 , 02:13 AM
Don't see what button had other than KJ or T9. K8 is the last hand I would put them on, I would maybe see KT on the flop but that hand certainly doesn't snap off a shove.
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05-18-2015 , 04:42 PM
I think you assume too much about the 8 mattering for the limper versus him just having pair+draw, two pair, etc.

People click buttons.
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05-18-2015 , 05:00 PM
It looks like there was probably a draw and an AT/T9, but who really knows. I think it's important to note that folding the turn was probably ok sometimes.

What you run into is a situation just like what we encountered, ok, we have 2pair, but if the money goes in, what do we beat on this board?

Your thought process is good, I would be slightly more wary of getting 2 calls on a board like this though.
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